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Thursday, January 31, 2019

JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: Jan 31 07:29PM -0800


> AU basketball started well ranked and immediately crashed and burned.
 
> AU baseball is expected to do well.
 
> Has any school ever disappointed across the board?
 
And they beat Washington early in both sports, who went on to be the best of a weak Pac-10 in both sports. Don't see Washington on Auburn's baseball schedule, though.
unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com>: Jan 31 07:38PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 9:29:49 PM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:
 
> > AU baseball is expected to do well.
 
> > Has any school ever disappointed across the board?
 
> And they beat Washington early in both sports, who went on to be the best of a weak Pac-10 in both sports. Don't see Washington on Auburn's baseball schedule, though.
 
Welcome to 2011.
unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com>: Jan 31 07:09PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 8:15:00 PM UTC-6, Tom Enright wrote:
 
> > and six dozen or so rsfcers.
 
> You mean lactatinggrannies.com is all a scam?!!!
 
> -TE
 
You are a sick little man.
Some dued <theodoreward@gmail.com>: Jan 31 07:31PM -0800

I am NOT clicking that link, not even with your mouse!
plaidmoon@gmail.com: Jan 31 06:33PM -0800

No, Press really meant "To many unfulfilled premises."
 
It was a toast to President Trump's political philosophy.
Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com>: Jan 31 03:08PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 2:30:02 PM UTC-8, Some dued wrote:
> My brother and I used to see how high of a step we could jump from in our two story house. My childhood nightmare always involved jumping off the top step.
 
> Strangely from when I was a kid until always I would have recurring dreams of flying, just taking off and flying around. They were always awesome dreams but I have NEVER had one while in a relationship. I've been married for nearly 20 years and haven't had that dream since before I was. And before that I didn't have it during a three year relationship.
 
my recurring "flying" dream always has me realize that no one else knows I'm flying. They think I'm jumping, which means I can set the world record for the long jump. 30 feet, 50 feet, whatever I choose.
 
A side thing of that dream is that I often think "I'm not dreaming, I'm really doing this!"
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Digest for rec.sport.pro-wrestling@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 5 topics

me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Jan 31 12:02PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 4:33:13 AM UTC-5, ]v[etaphoid wrote:
 
> And yet all along you've refused to answer Skeeter's question about
> justifying your claims of massive tax fraud. That's a fact.
 
> In your defence, you have been very busy digging...
 
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html
Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid>: Jan 31 01:38PM -0700

In article <c59f8041-7299-4192-b31f-8369f2cc0d7a@googlegroups.com>,
mooseheadjack13@gmail.com says...
>> justifying your claims of massive tax fraud. That's a fact.
 
>> In your defence, you have been very busy digging...
 
>https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html
 
NYtimes? Really? A proven rag that is biased and lies?
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Jan 31 12:56PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 3:38:10 PM UTC-5, Skeeter wrote:
 
> >> In your defence, you have been very busy digging...
 
> >https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html
 
> NYtimes? Really? A proven rag that is biased and lies?
 
Frothing, dancing AND a tap out!
Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid>: Jan 31 02:43PM -0700

In article <6790278d-517a-4eb7-91ee-cf48adbec31d@googlegroups.com>,
mooseheadjack13@gmail.com says...
 
>> >https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html
 
>> NYtimes? Really? A proven rag that is biased and lies?
 
>Frothing, dancing AND a tap out!
 
I see you're practicing your lingo, that's good, if you want us to let
you stay. I see you responded in seconds too.
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: Jan 31 01:53PM -0800

Fake news
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Jan 31 01:55PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 4:43:27 PM UTC-5, Skeeter wrote:
 
> >Frothing, dancing AND a tap out!
 
> I see you're practicing your lingo, that's good, if you want us to let
> you stay. I see you responded in seconds too.
 
Keep on tapping!
Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid>: Jan 31 03:07PM -0700

In article <723deaf1-ed24-4d10-a3f7-945ec250f6f0@googlegroups.com>,
mooseheadjack13@gmail.com says...
 
>> I see you're practicing your lingo, that's good, if you want us to let
>> you stay. I see you responded in seconds too.
 
>Keep on tapping!
 
Seconds...damn dude, ya miss me?
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Jan 31 02:17PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 5:07:33 PM UTC-5, Skeeter wrote:
> >> you stay. I see you responded in seconds too.
 
> >Keep on tapping!
 
> Seconds...damn dude, ya miss me?
 
Still haven't learned how to tell time, eh?
% <persent@gmail.com>: Jan 31 03:20PM -0700

On 2019-01-31 3:17 p.m., me wrote:
 
>>> Keep on tapping!
 
>> Seconds...damn dude, ya miss me?
 
> Still haven't learned how to tell time, eh?
 
skeeter really has you guys eating from his hand now
Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid>: Jan 31 03:46PM -0700

In article <bc21a5ea-8cbc-4d32-bf9e-7df58f278c47@googlegroups.com>,
mooseheadjack13@gmail.com says...
 
>> >Keep on tapping!
 
>> Seconds...damn dude, ya miss me?
 
>Still haven't learned how to tell time, eh?
 
Less than a minute. Obsessed much?
Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid>: Jan 31 03:46PM -0700

In article <busht2.qhk.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com says...
 
>>> Seconds...damn dude, ya miss me?
 
>> Still haven't learned how to tell time, eh?
 
>skeeter really has you guys eating from his hand now
 
he keep muttering something about time and tapping.
% <persent@gmail.com>: Jan 31 03:51PM -0700

On 2019-01-31 3:46 p.m., Skeeter wrote:
 
>>> Still haven't learned how to tell time, eh?
 
>> skeeter really has you guys eating from his hand now
 
> he keep muttering something about time and tapping.
 
maybe somethings wrong with his truck motor
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Jan 31 02:54PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-5, Skeeter wrote:
 
> >> Still haven't learned how to tell time, eh?
 
> >skeeter really has you guys eating from his hand now
 
> he keep muttering something about time and tapping.
 
Keep sitting here sputtering after being bitchslapped.
"Fuck Emperor Trump & His Shit Eating Redneck Army" <davidbrown20782@gmail.com>: Jan 31 04:56AM -0800

On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 8:45:02 PM UTC-5, robert stickler wrote:
> Cnn propaganda
 
OF COURSE
 
 
Jason
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: Jan 31 05:02AM -0800

Good to see you agree!
P-Dub <pwolfe00@gmail.com>: Jan 31 06:21AM -0800

On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:01:19 PM UTC-5, Fuck Emperor Trump & His Shit Eating Redneck Army wrote:
 
> Suckvoid: Pissing in the wind!!!
 
> Robby: LOL Dere Wuz No Colloarbuysions
 
> AGLOP: Hello? Dominoes? YEA Lemme Get the "Lonely Fat Guy" Special. Yep, ALL the toppings!
 
This proves absolutely nothing. There is no rule or law that prevents a president from meeting or speaking with a leader from another nation. Even Obummer did that. No libby complaints then.
 
It's a great thing that the president speaks to foreign leaders privately when necessary.
 
NO COLLISION (spelled correctly). It's TOTAL BS. Get a grip.
 
TRUMP 2020. ALL DAY.
"Fuck Emperor Trump & His Shit Eating Redneck Army" <davidbrown20782@gmail.com>: Jan 31 08:22AM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 9:21:31 AM UTC-5, P-Dub wrote:

 
> NO COLLISION (spelled correctly).
 
Alrighty then!
P-Dub <pwolfe00@gmail.com>: Jan 31 08:36AM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 11:22:29 AM UTC-5, Fuck Emperor Trump & His Shit Eating Redneck Army wrote:
> On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 9:21:31 AM UTC-5, P-Dub wrote:
 
> > NO COLLISION (spelled correctly).
 
> Alrighty then!
 
whoops.
 
Must not have happened. Neither you or I can even spell it.
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Jan 31 11:58AM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 9:21:31 AM UTC-5, P-Dub wrote:
 
> It's a great thing that the president speaks to foreign leaders privately when necessary.
 
> NO COLLISION (spelled correctly). It's TOTAL BS. Get a grip.
 
> TRUMP 2020. ALL DAY.
 
I wonder how many times Obama met with an enemy of the United States, then had the transcripts of that meeting destroyed?
Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid>: Jan 31 01:37PM -0700

In article <cdce54b2-1ccf-4961-8d21-c9491db8ed03@googlegroups.com>,
mooseheadjack13@gmail.com says...
 
>> NO COLLISION (spelled correctly). It's TOTAL BS. Get a grip.
 
>> TRUMP 2020. ALL DAY.
 
>I wonder how many times Obama met with an enemy of the United States, then had the transcripts of that meeting destroyed?
 
You have proof that any transcripts were destroyed? What you say? You
don't?
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: Jan 31 01:53PM -0800

Obama gave iran billions in cash
Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid>: Jan 31 03:00PM -0700

In article <4da65297-11cf-470c-99ea-b77a820f8b35@googlegroups.com>,
rjs2084@aol.com says...
 
>Obama gave iran billions in cash
 
and when trump won some promises were broken, now the demos are
scrambling to clean up their messes.
"Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake>: Jan 31 04:03PM -0500


>> stealing money from
 
>> taxes -
 
>Obsess much, Gurgles, you little thief?
 
It's hard to ignore such a fat little dwarf whose
ugliness is beyond compare, Dink.
 
>Congratulations on having a post that had very little gay in it.
 
You're in it and that's VERY gay!
 
>Now go unclog your outhouse, you freak.
 
It will be unclogged as soon as you pull your
fat head out of the hole. LOL!
 
--
 
Everybody here likes Yours Truly,
Gregøry Hall - Bombastic Loudmouth of the South
"Scott Oaf - (I'm really Chudnozzle)" <Chadweasel@zoho.com>: Jan 31 08:58PM

]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con> wrote in news:mn.fcaf7e318ce2981a.136487
 
> Is anyone else shutting down their facebook page thirteen times?
 
I have JH as a role model and Chadweasel as a life coach. What could
possibly go wrong?
 
> Are you disabling comments?
 
Didn't you read his teary "farewell but I'll be right back" speech? He's
going to get someone else to moderate the comments. Gotta keep a steady
supply of scapegoats to monetize.

> Will you be here?
 
> Get well...
 
Sarcasm isn't nice.
"Fuck Emperor Trump & His Shit Eating Redneck Army" <davidbrown20782@gmail.com>: Jan 31 08:27AM -0800

On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 8:14:31 AM UTC-5, Skeeter wrote:
 
> >Other than that I hope everyone here is having a good day.
 
> Welcome to our group. By "our" I mean %, robert and I. Behave and we
> might let you stay.
 
The Trio of 'Tard.
 
BTW, I'm not leaving. I Will Outlast all three of you blithering idiots.
 
Jason
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Digest for rec.sport.football.college@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 14 topics

Some dued <theodoreward@gmail.com>: Jan 31 02:33PM -0800

> > I'm still amazed that people think it's a binary option.
 
> I'm still amazed people assume anyone said binary.
 
It seems binary to me, you compared two different choices. Replace Socialism with A and Capitalism with B. The operation was not specified but it seems suggest of an exclusive or. A xor B.
Some dued <theodoreward@gmail.com>: Jan 31 02:29PM -0800

My brother and I used to see how high of a step we could jump from in our two story house. My childhood nightmare always involved jumping off the top step.
 
Strangely from when I was a kid until always I would have recurring dreams of flying, just taking off and flying around. They were always awesome dreams but I have NEVER had one while in a relationship. I've been married for nearly 20 years and haven't had that dream since before I was. And before that I didn't have it during a three year relationship.
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jan 31 01:05PM -0800

In article <79882bd3-dd5d-4876-83a8-06a87e5a6b43@googlegroups.com>,
 
> He sounds like he wants to Make America Great Again.
 
> Would make a nice slogan
 
He can start by making better coffee.
His business model is to make scorched,
undrinkable black coffee and charge the
limit for additions.
 
Not that I drink black coffee. I purposely
went to Starbuck's once to try their coffee.
 
--
Michael Press
btpage0622@gmail.com: Jan 31 01:14PM -0800

Wow I agree with this. Some of the worst coffee along with McDonalds and Chik Fil A.
 
I've long argued that the great deception was tricking millions of non-coffee drinkers into believing they are coffee drinkers.
 
If you like coffee, you like black coffee, everything else is covering up the taste
dotslashderek@gmail.com: Jan 31 01:51PM -0800

Lol, you better not be cutting your whiskey then dude.
 
Cheers.
btpage0622@gmail.com: Jan 31 02:08PM -0800

I don't drink alcohol anymore.
dotslashderek@gmail.com: Jan 31 12:49PM -0800

Yeah, prolly. The part I doubt is trumpster's whining that he was promised in the strongest terms.
 
This from a guy who routinely used contracts as a starting point to negotiate how much he was actually going to pay... after the work was done. And if you don't like it we can lock things up in court for years arguing.
 
Karma, comeuppance, sad whining, nothing's ever his fault, all that. Just not a great human being.
 
Cheers.
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jan 31 01:31PM -0800

In article <58a16403-5118-4a36-a384-6c957b6fd1c0@googlegroups.com>,
 
> "Well, I was going to veto the omnibus bill and Paul told me in the strongest of language, 'Please don't do that, we'll get you the wall.' And I said, 'I hope you mean that, because I don't like this bill,'" the president recounted in an exclusive Wednesday interview with The Daily Caller.
 
> "Paul told me in the strongest of terms that, 'please sign this and if you sign this we will get you that wall.' Which is desperately needed by our country. Humanitarian crisis, trafficking, drugs, you know, everything — people, criminals, gangs, so, you know, we need the wall."
 
> "And then he went lame duck," Trump said.
 
Why did Ryan announce early that he would not seek another term?
Something there and none of us know what. I think President Trump knows.
 
--
Michael Press
dotslashderek@gmail.com: Jan 31 01:50PM -0800

That's no secret, Press. He watched a party he'd been trying - with limited success - to steer towards "real" conservatism - limited government, lower taxes, fiscal responsibility, etc - go all in on the bannon style far right xenophobic christian nationalist ahole stuff.
 
So he said rsfck it I'm out.
 
Pretty straightforward. See your boy bannon is running the same game across europe now - how's it going over there?
 
Cheers.
tim.vanwagonerspam@gmail.com: Jan 31 01:09PM -0800

Ken, how long between when the Dr decided you needed
It, and the OK by the insurance company, ie how long did all the hoop jumping take?
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jan 31 09:46PM

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 14:07:25 -0500, Ken Olson
 
>Hip replacement was a lot bigger deal that long ago, too.
 
Hip replacement surgery caused my mother's death 31 Mar 1977.
 
Hugh
Marty McMahone <mlmcmahone@gmail.com>: Jan 31 01:31PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 12:59:10 PM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:
 
> > Apparently, a tutor got caught doing coursework for a football player - and never mind that the athlete eventually dropped the course; the school got hit with a one-year bowl ban. The Committee on Infractions has recommended that any football player with only one year of eligibility left be allowed to transfer and play immediately.
 
> > Also, the same tutor did work for a baseball player (for the same course, apparently, and that athlete ended up dropping it as well), as well as a few softball players - and Missouri is banned from those sports' tournaments this year as well.
 
> But UNC sets up an entire set of fake classes with no repercussion?
 
There is no greater "you can break the rules if you make us money" example ever than UNC's cheating scandal. The NCAA is just absurd.
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: Jan 31 01:40PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 1:59:10 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
 
> > Apparently, a tutor got caught doing coursework for a football player - and never mind that the athlete eventually dropped the course; the school got hit with a one-year bowl ban. The Committee on Infractions has recommended that any football player with only one year of eligibility left be allowed to transfer and play immediately.
 
> > Also, the same tutor did work for a baseball player (for the same course, apparently, and that athlete ended up dropping it as well), as well as a few softball players - and Missouri is banned from those sports' tournaments this year as well.
 
> But UNC sets up an entire set of fake classes with no repercussion?
 
Supposedly the NCAA did not sanction UNC because the fake classes were available to non-athletes as well.
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jan 31 01:24PM -0800

Why? Because he wants to continue to vacation in NYC.
 
He is frightened by John Bolton's mustache. Turns out John Bolton
is just as formidable in real life as he was as a TV personality.
 
<https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-31/it-cant-be-fixed-icc-judge-quits-over-shocking-interference-washington>
 
 
| "The United States will use any means necessary to protect our
| citizens and those of our allies from unjust prosecution by this
| illegitimate court," Bolton said in September. He also called for
| sanctions against the International Criminal Court (ICC) and
| warned the body against pursuing any investigations into "Israel
| or other U.S. allies."
|
| We will sanction their funds in the U.S. financial system, and we
| will prosecute them in the U.S. criminal system. We will not
| cooperate with the ICC. We will provide no assistance to the ICC.
| We will not join the ICC. We will let the ICC die on its own.
| After all, for all intents and purposes, the ICC is already dead
| to us."
|
| If these judges ever interfere in the domestic concerns of the
| U.S. or investigate an American citizen, [Bolton] said the
| American government would do all it could to ensure that these
| judges would no longer be allowed to travel to the United
| States---and that they would perhaps even be criminally
| prosecuted."
|
| The American security adviser held his speech at a time when The
| Hague was planning preliminary investigations into American
| soldiers who had been accused of torturing people in Afghanistan.
| The American threats against international judges clearly show
| the new political climate. It is shocking. I had never heard such
| a threat.
|
| It is consistent with the new American line: `We are No 1 and we
| stand above the law.'"
 
Eat my dust, Flügge.
 
--
Michael Press
unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com>: Jan 31 01:35PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 3:24:08 PM UTC-6, Michael Press wrote:
 
> Eat my dust, Flügge.
 
> --
> Michael Press
 
Nice use of the umlaut, Herr Press.
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jan 31 01:27PM -0800

In article <cb4b4943-ae43-495c-8fc3-0ac9eb577fa8@googlegroups.com>,
 
> She is considered one of America's greatest authors and for good reason. Southern, Catholic, and a conscience against racism and bigotry.
 
> You can't read her stories without some amount of introspection.
 
> Best thing I've read in years.
 
"Everywhere I go, I'm asked if I think the universities stifle writers.
My opinion is that they don't stifle enough of them."
 
--
Michael Press
unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com>: Jan 31 01:05PM -0800

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1091001955886002179
 
TMML. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez keeps kicking these neocons in the nuts over and over again. It's comical, and it's almost a daily occurrence.
unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com>: Jan 31 12:57PM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 12:55:02 PM UTC-6, Ken Olson wrote:
> https://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/3470140-fake-news-63-year-old-daycare-owner-breastfed-toddlers-in-public-while-smoking-crystal-meth.html
 
She could lactate at that age?
 
C'mon, man. Who's going to believe that story to start with?
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com>: Jan 31 11:19AM -0800

https://twitter.com/nc_governor/status/1090744748640555015?s=21
Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com>: Jan 31 12:18PM -0800

> https://twitter.com/nc_governor/status/1090744748640555015?s=21
 
I wonder if there's a South Carolina vs North Carolina rivalry in everything.
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org.spam>: Jan 31 03:40PM -0500

On 1/31/2019 3:18 PM, Eric Ramon wrote:
> On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 11:19:17 AM UTC-8, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> https://twitter.com/nc_governor/status/1090744748640555015?s=21
 
> I wonder if there's a South Carolina vs North Carolina rivalry in everything.
 
Why wouldn't there be?
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jan 31 12:46PM -0800

In article <9cea9a15-238b-439c-92c0-ac3f0ac2e9c4@googlegroups.com>,
 
> https://twitter.com/nc_governor/status/1090744748640555015?s=21
 
I laughed.
 
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jim brown <jimbrowndoc@yahoo.com>: Jan 31 11:55AM -0800

https://www.citylab.com/perspective/2019/01/family-planning-day-care-costs-zoning-cities-children/580279/
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com>: Jan 31 11:23AM -0800

More
 
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/ex-mizzou-tutor-alleging-fraud-wants-to-sell-evidence/article_13eee32f-4c8f-51b1-84f0-c77e4e6435c6.html
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org.spam>: Jan 31 11:48AM -0500

> This goes both ways. There's no exclusive on unthinking idiots.
 
+1
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StephenJ <sjonk43@cox.com>: Jan 31 12:15PM -0600

> Analysts predict up up 8 million brown refuges from war-torn
> Venezuela needing sanctuary and that will of course, be
> USA.
 
A war might bring a quick end to Venezuela's agony, which has been going
on for a long time. That's one possible outcome. Better it be conducted
by a coalition of South American countries, though. They are the
immediate neighbors.
 
 
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before agriculture, food-finding was the only occupation
for humans.
 
- Alan Weisman
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jan 31 10:16AM -0800

Dick Cheyney is now worth $80million!
War creates lots of jobs/money for the neocons!
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jan 31 10:18AM -0800

It's why nobody in the USA cared one bit about Zimbabwe!
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com>: Jan 31 10:25AM -0800

On 1/31/19 10:16 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
> Dick Cheyney is now worth $80million!
> War creates lots of jobs/money for the neocons!
 
Here's a thought, and it's not a criticism, Iceman...
 
If you think about it, both a foreign war, and public works spending
affect the domestic economy in a similar fashion, in that they create a
demand for goods and services that did not previously exist, or were not
under big demand.
 
Since you already know that I don't tend to ascribe "right" and "wrong"
to impersonal phenomena like the appropriateness of foreign policy, over
and above its positive or negative quantifiable results, I'm not
snarkily implying that one course is the morally proper one; I don't see
things that way. Implementing one in lieu of the other is quite
different, politically, and this matters somewhat.
 
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Calimero <calimero377@gmx.de>: Jan 31 10:38AM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 5:44:37 PM UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
 
> So, do you like the idea of war there?
> If yes, why and if no, why?
> ...
 
 
It is a good idea.
 
- The US military gets some necessary practice.
- Democracy and capitalism are restored.
- The Russians lose face since one of their clients will get beaten up.
- Trump will rise in the polls.
 
 
Max
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jan 31 07:41PM +0100

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But these modern wars don't benefit the people that much. If at all.
 
E.g. when Britain conquered Indus the wealth they plundered helped
build Britain for the better.
 
So in a way, it was a good war for the Britain and bad for the
Indus. Zero sum game, win - loss.
 
 
But this war in Venezuela, it doesn't seem the ordinary white
Americans will profit from it. E.g. will they get free
healthcare? No. Brown Venezuelans will of course, get hurt,
killed and displaced.
 
It's a loss - loss.
 
 
Someone else is profiting. Individuals. And I oppose wars that
don't directly benefit the people.
 
 
If Trump said we'll go there, take all of their oil, harvest their
females, who are very successful in various beauty pageants, and
enslave their males...
 
Now that would be a positive approach to war.
 
 
But we'll go there, destroy their country to reinstate "democracy,
kill thousands, and create refugee crisis which USA will have to
take care of...
 
Now that's stupid.
 
Just my thoughts.
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Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com>: Jan 31 10:43AM -0800

On 1/31/19 10:18 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
> It's why nobody in the USA cared one bit about Zimbabwe!
 
Hard for me to imagine anyone other Zimbabweans caring much, one way or
the other.
 
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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jan 31 08:12PM +0100

> on for a long time. That's one possible outcome. Better it be conducted
> by a coalition of South American countries, though. They are the
> immediate neighbors.
 
 
Coalition of South American countries?
 
You mean the plan should be to draw them into it, in order to
force them to share the refugee burden later?
 
Well, it's a smart move.
 
But as much as smart it may be from a practical perspective,
minimizing the brown influx for USA, it doesn't make the whole
thing a wee bit legal.
 
One aggressor, or five aggressors, it changes nothing from a legal
point if view.
 
Venezuela is a sovereign country, UN member and only UN security
council can make decisions of perhaps stripping Venezuelan
government of legality.
 
Venezuela also hasn't attacked any country.
 
And even these so called protests, this guy Maduro won election
last year, and the other guy who now hopes to be the usurper came
out of nowhere.
 
He wasn't even running against Maduro, so that one could say he
was robbed of victory.
 
 
In the greatest democracy, Hillary robbed Sanders of nomination,
so I'm pretty sure Venezuelan democracy has many flaws, but so
what? It is for them, it's their country. They might be flawed
democracy, but they're a democracy.
 
There are many countries, that aren't even nominally democracies.
 
E.g. Saudi Arabia or China. So the whole "we should invade
non-democracies" line is a bit unconvincing.
 
 
As for your hopes of war bringing quick end to Venezuelan agony,
I'm not so sure about it.
 
The current government has been in power for 2 decades now (couple
of years longer than Merkel in Germany) and they enjoy great
support.
 
They have opponents, as the country is polarized, but they have
huge support as well.
 
An ideal prerequisite for a bloody civil war once foreign meddling
begins.
 
 
As for Venezuelan agony, we have to be sincere and admit that US
sanctions and US desire to punish their socialist government in
the past 2 decades was a main contributing factor to their
current agony.
 
Socialism might be bad, but it's not that bad that you'll end up
without toilet paper. US sanctions will help there.

 
 
We know that the globalist and neocons have their agenda (global
rule and Kalergi) plan, but they're marketing their war effort by
saying democracy and capitalism should be restored here.

 
Well, that's what shows you neocons are just a bunch of
warmongering former liberals who don't actually believe in
natural superiority of capitalism and feel the need to impose
that stuff.
 
 
True conservatives and believers in superiority of both capitalism
and democracy, such as Ron Paul said US should have traded with
Venezuela, not sanctioned them.
 
The example and natural flow would do its own...
 
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Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com>: Jan 31 11:15AM -0800

On 1/31/19 10:41 AM, *skriptis wrote:
 
> It's a loss - loss.
 
> Someone else is profiting. Individuals. And I oppose wars that
> don't directly benefit the people.
 
No doubt you recall me mentioning to others quite some time ago that in
the US, the individual benefits to the degree they can align themselves
with the same interests as those in power.
 
In the event of a war that the powerful have instigated, I could, if I
wanted, participate a bit in the rewards by buying stock in Northrup
Grumman, for example.
 
In the 80s, I had direct employment in defense SW.
 
So those opportunities exist.
 
A thing to bear in mind about the US at this point, and for quite a long
time, is that no policy of any kind benefits anyone other than targeted
segments, Perhaps in an ethnically homogeneous nation, tat *might* be
possible, but not here, really, so far as I can see.
 
So the challenge to the individual is to correctly guess what segments
will be benefited from current policy, and see if you can position your
interests in such a way to share any rewards.
 
I'm not saying that I particularly *like* this, skript, but it has
worked well for me for the last 30 or so years, once I got it thru my
head that the US was not like Sesame Street or Mr. Rodgers' Neighborhood.
 
> take care of...
 
> Now that's stupid.
 
> Just my thoughts.
 
Fair enough.
 
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Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com>: Jan 31 11:35AM -0800

On 1/31/19 11:12 AM, *skriptis wrote:
 
> But as much as smart it may be from a practical perspective,
> minimizing the brown influx for USA, it doesn't make the whole
> thing a wee bit legal.
 
Not to be glib, but I've never considered "war" and "legal" to be
compatible. I supposed that limited wars are constrained in some sense,
but total war seems like the absence of law--its suspension as a social
control.
 
 
> There are many countries, that aren't even nominally democracies.
 
> E.g. Saudi Arabia or China. So the whole "we should invade
> non-democracies" line is a bit unconvincing.
 
I agree. That sort of line is for the rubes.
 
Slightly divergent, what makes one a rube is highly dependent on the
provocation. E.g., everyone after Pearl Harbor was a rube, and pretty
much the same after 9/11.
 
> current agony.
 
> Socialism might be bad, but it's not that bad that you'll end up
> without toilet paper.
Hah! Good one!
 
> We know that the globalist and neocons have their agenda (global
> rule and Kalergi) plan, but they're marketing their war effort by
> saying democracy and capitalism should be restored here.
 
For the rubes...
 
> and democracy, such as Ron Paul said US should have traded with
> Venezuela, not sanctioned them.
 
> The example and natural flow would do its own...
 
Not dramatic enough to be used in a campaign commercial, nor would any
potential donors benefit directly, therefore worthless as a policy
suggestion... ;-)
 
 
 
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Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com>: Jan 31 10:17AM -0800

On 1/31/19 10:02 AM, soccerfan777 wrote:
>> * Self Esteem - The Offspring :-):-)
 
>> Your turn!!!
> Mine is Kill The Poor by The Dead Kennedy's. Its more apt considering the right wing nutters like *shitpiss dominating rst
 
Well, that's a good one, soccerfan, but I was hoping for something a
bit, well, you know, more *personal*. It could be political as well, of
course, but I was hoping for that personal element.
 
But if that's your choice, that's fine.
 
Thanks!
 
 
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Calimero <calimero377@gmx.de>: Jan 31 10:42AM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 5:47:03 PM UTC+1, sawfish wrote:
> * Mr. Brightside - The Killers :-)
> * Self Esteem - The Offspring :-):-)
 
> Your turn!!!
 
Ich mag Steffi - Guildo Horn
Little Miss Wunderbar - The Rattles
 
 
Max
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com>: Jan 31 11:16AM -0800

On 1/31/19 10:42 AM, Calimero wrote:
 
> Ich mag Steffi - Guildo Horn
> Little Miss Wunderbar - The Rattles
 
> Max
 
I will search for these, Max. Thanks!
 
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soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jan 31 11:34AM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 12:17:10 PM UTC-6, sawfish wrote:
> course, but I was hoping for that personal element.
 
> But if that's your choice, that's fine.
 
> Thanks!
 
You missed my sarcasm. I am not a big punk fan. I do like that song, but is by no means my favorite "love" song. I hate most love songs by the way.
 
My favorite love song is by Led Zeppelin. It is probably their most emotional.
 
https://genius.com/Led-zeppelin-ten-years-gone-lyrics
 
Then, as it was, then again it will be
And though the course may change sometimes
Rivers always reach the sea
Flying skies of fortune, each a separate way
On the wings of maybe, downing birds of prey
Kind of makes me feel sometimes, didn't have to go
But as the eagle leaves the nest, got so far to go
 
[Hook]
Changes fill my time, baby, that's alright with me
In the midst I think of you, and how it used to be
 
[Verse 2]
Did you ever really need somebody
And really need 'em bad?
Did you ever really want somebody
The best love you ever had?
Do you ever remember me, baby
Did it feel so good?
Cause it was just the first time
And you knew you would
 
[Verse 3]
Through the eyes and I sparkle, senses growing keen
Taste your love along the way, see your feathers preen
Kind of makes me feel sometimes, didn't have to grow
We are eagles of one nest, the nest is in our soul
 
[Hook]
Vixen in my dreams, with great surprise to me
Never thought I'd see your face the way it used to be
Oh darling, oh darling
 
[Outro]
I'm never going to leave you
I'm never going to leave
Holding on, ten years gone
Ten years gone, holding on, ten years gone
 
MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net>: Jan 31 10:48AM -0800

On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:01:48 PM UTC+2, sawfish wrote:
> population in all industrialized nations. They do not seem to be as
> ruthless or as dogged as a Connors or a MacEnroe, for example, or even
> Agassi.
 
Then there was Gerulaitis who at some point was combined 0-30 against Borg & Connors.
 
Connors/Mac/Agassi are tier3 greats with 7-8 slams and #1 creds.
 
You are expecting todays's bottom top10 to have a similar mindset? Same as you would ask it from Rainer Schuttler, Gred Rusedski, Cedric Pioline, Maliwai Washington, Jakob Hlasek, Gene Mayer, Eddie Dibbs or Harold Solomon.
 
> These are the guys going up against Rafa, and they're overly influenced
> by his reputation, which is understandable, but they'll have to get past
> this to beat him regularly.
 
Aura of a champion. Connors/Borg/Mac/Lendl/Sampras all had it. They won a lot of matches already in locker room without any ball hit.
 
.mikko
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com>: Jan 31 07:00PM

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 05:12:45 -0800, arahim wrote:
 
> If he is in beast mode he must have some inkling of it. Why would a
> player who is known for his mental strength and who is in beast mode get
> psyched?
 
https://quarterarcade.com/Media/Thumbs/0013/0013266-altered-beast.jpg
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com>: Jan 31 11:03AM -0800

On 1/31/19 10:48 AM, MBDunc wrote:
> Then there was Gerulaitis who at some point was combined 0-30 against Borg & Connors.
 
> Connors/Mac/Agassi are tier3 greats with 7-8 slams and #1 creds.
 
> You are expecting todays's bottom top10 to have a similar mindset? Same as you would ask it from Rainer Schuttler, Gred Rusedski, Cedric Pioline, Maliwai Washington, Jakob Hlasek, Gene Mayer, Eddie Dibbs or Harold Solomon.
 
But there are also Gilberts and Cricksteins who lack the full game, but
not the grit.
 
 
 
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jan 31 10:15AM -0800

> Layed out in this glorious highlight reel;
- Attack
- Counter attack
- Serve well
- Mix it up
- Use slice to change pace, angles and depth
- Approach the net a lot
- Early hitting
- Mix it up
- Serve volley
- Do anything but mindless rallying from the baseline
- Oh and of course pick a fastcourt to increase your chance of succes
 
Djokovic defense is awesome under pressure for about 1-1.5 hours. After an hour the effectiveness of his defense declines a lot and he becomes very vulnerable. This vulnerability became too obvious after he turned 30.
I guess this applies to the top three that their strength deteriorates after an hour or two due to their age.
 
So you want to beat them, stay very close in the score, hang around and you will be rewarded.
 
Djokovic isn't as super as people think, he was defeated twice in the last month of 2018.
 
Honestly it's up to the young guns to push hard now and pressure the top three. The top three are hanging tough but you can't beat youth if it's combined with determination.
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com>: Jan 31 10:28AM -0800

On 1/31/19 10:15 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> So you want to beat them, stay very close in the score, hang around and you will be rewarded.
 
> Djokovic isn't as super as people think, he was defeated twice in the last month of 2018.
 
> Honestly it's up to the young guns to push hard now and pressure the top three. The top three are hanging tough but you can't beat youth if it's combined with determination.
...and it seems that determination is what's in short supply, Pete.
 
 
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jan 31 10:43AM -0800

> ...and it seems that determination is what's in short supply, Pete.
 
Correct
StephenJ <sjonk43@cox.com>: Jan 31 12:28PM -0600

On 1/31/2019 9:04 AM, Sawfish wrote:
>> and could do a lot more on his backhand than what Graf could do with
>> her backhand.
 
> Does anyone remember the Arthur Ashe backhand?
 
I remember. Ashe's BH, a one-hander, was beautiful but it's also no
longer relevant to today's game. It's an example of the tradeoff in
skill/elegance that power has brought in to the game.
 
Ashe didn't typically hit a topspin BH though on occasion he would. If
he was at the baseline and in a center position, he'd usually slice to
to the ad court or inside-out side-spin to hit to the deuce court. Of
course what he really sought to do was chip the BH and close to the net.
 
Of course, he was doing this with a 68" wood racket at a time when
nobody had much power by today's standards even off the FH side, so a
variety of shots could work. Nowadays, you really can only fight power
with power.
 
 
--
before agriculture, food-finding was the only occupation
for humans.
 
- Alan Weisman
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