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Sunday, May 24, 2015

pawn <pawn@porterhouse.com>: May 24 10:38AM -0400

On 2015-05-23 3:30 PM, TheMadApe wrote:
>> fan? :(
 
> Don't they have their own Newsgroup?
 
> TMA
 
 
Ahhhh this brings me back to the old days. The old, "I don't like what
you're saying and you're not welcome here" approach. Brings a
reminiscent tear to my eye.
TheMadApe <chiefape@gmail.com>: May 24 12:49PM -0300

pawn wrote:
 
> Ahhhh this brings me back to the old days. The old, "I don't like what
> you're saying and you're not welcome here" approach. Brings a
> reminiscent tear to my eye.
 
Where did I say that? I asked a question and you laid out your 'Jump to
Conclusions' mat.
 
TMA
Mike <mike@gmail.com>: May 24 04:19PM -0300

On 15-05-24 12:49 PM, TheMadApe wrote:
 
> Where did I say that? I asked a question and you laid out your 'Jump to
> Conclusions' mat.
 
> TMA
 
Ape, the Leafs NG died many years ago. The last thread was a two post
one that pawn commented on in 2014. Previous to that there was a post
about Mike Palmeteer back in 2013. Evne the fans have given up on the
NG. Pawn is like the last great dinosaur.
TheMadApe <chiefape@gmail.com>: May 24 07:25PM -0300

Mike wrote:
> one that pawn commented on in 2014. Previous to that there was a post
> about Mike Palmeteer back in 2013. Evne the fans have given up on the
> NG. Pawn is like the last great dinosaur.
 
 
LOL well using altnet dates us all.
 
Some have substituted it with forums and that debacle known as Reddit
but I will be here until my dying breath. And by judging how I feel
after a weekend of yard work & getting a pool opened up, that should be
any day now!
 
TMA
pawn <pawn@porterhouse.com>: May 24 11:06PM -0400

On 2015-05-24 3:19 PM, Mike wrote:
> one that pawn commented on in 2014. Previous to that there was a post
> about Mike Palmeteer back in 2013. Evne the fans have given up on the
> NG. Pawn is like the last great dinosaur.
 
Yes but my DNA is preserved in amber so your children's children can
experience a good prodding of common sense once in a while.
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"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <Iamtj4life@gmail.com>: May 24 08:50PM -0700

According to this article, there are 30 players in the NFL and another 200 playing d-1 football who are from Samoa
 
Which is impressive, right?
 
Did you know the population of Samoa is only about 195k? (not sure where the 65k figure is from)
 
I can tell you there are NOT 30 players from the NFL and another 200 playing college ball from the Madison area.
 
http://yahoo.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-take/201505/samoa-football-nfl-work-ethic-culture-respect-sapolu-mariota-polynesia
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: May 24 06:23PM -0700

Another famous person killed in a car wreck and wasn't driving (Scott Simon, Princess Diana both leap to mind).
"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <Iamtj4life@gmail.com>: May 24 08:41PM -0700

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 8:23:19 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> Another famous person killed in a car wreck and wasn't driving (Scott Simon, Princess Diana both leap to mind).
 
all CIA plots too - what did Nash know of Jade Helm and when did he know it?
xyzzy <address_is@invalid.invalid>: May 25 02:01AM

Whose logic can also apply to other science related controversies like
climate change.
 
http://grist.org/food/what-i-learned-from-six-months-of-gmo-research-none-of-it-matters/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=update
 
Key paragraph:
 
Similarly, people care about GMOs because they symbolize corporate control
of the food system, or unsustainable agriculture, or the basic
unhealthiness of our modern diet. On the other side, people care about GMOs
because they symbolize the victory of human ingenuity over hunger and
suffering, or the triumph of market forces, or the wonder of science. These
larger stories are so compelling that they often obscure the ground truth.
"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <Iamtj4life@gmail.com>: May 24 08:41PM -0700

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 9:02:59 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> because they symbolize the victory of human ingenuity over hunger and
> suffering, or the triumph of market forces, or the wonder of science. These
> larger stories are so compelling that they often obscure the ground truth.
 
Interesting read - I like how he emphasized the all or nothing approach - but really wish he had gone into the benefits/risks on an individual level - say the upside of golden rice v the risk of something going wild
 
I'm not sure of the right word - close to "hubris" - but not exactly - which seems to describe so much of this - on one side, you have a faction which is positive that man is the causative agent - and is bad - think anti-gmo and pro AGW. On the other side you have those who see man an extension of nature and that there is often some good to be found in the results of his actions.
 
Thanks for posting
RoddyMcCorley <Roddy.McCorley@verizon.net>: May 24 11:19PM -0400

On 5/24/2015 6:23 PM, Some dued wrote:
> Assuming you pay 50%, you are at least in the top .1 percent according to sites such as givingwhatwecan.org, though I have no idea how accurate it is.
> The truth is people complain, whether they have everything or nothing, but it sounds like money is not a problem for you.
 
It is a problem for him. He's consumed by it and its loss to taxes. I
don't think he is smart enough to realize that what he is paying is the
price of success.
 
I don't like paying taxes, but I realized about 30 years ago I should be
thankful to have the opportunity to enjoy the fruits of my labors.
 
--
False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul
with evil.
 
Pennsylvania - Tá sé difriúil anseo.
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: May 24 07:28PM -0700

In article <91dc35e5-aae1-4af4-8fb6-73684d8b1d29@googlegroups.com>,
 
> What were the names of the pornos that Osama had in his collection?
 
The Princess and the Pee.
 
--
Michael Press
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 24 06:33PM -0700

Crossing the Atlantic in a 172?
xyzzy <address_is@invalid.invalid>: May 25 01:48AM

> Crossing the Atlantic in a 172?
 
Yes, there is cottage industry of time building pilots who will ferry
planes across oceans for like $2k plus expenses. They put on survival
suits, put extra gas tanks in the back seat and deliver the planes to
Europe via Newfoundland, Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, etc. It's cheaper and
faster than taking the wings off and shipping them in containers. And with
the experience requirement for airline first officers increased from like
250 hours to like 1500, there are plenty of guys out there bidding for
these jobs, you can rack up 50 hours or more on one of these flights.
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 24 06:51PM -0700

Sounds like fun.
 
...on a low-hour plane
xyzzy <address_is@invalid.invalid>: May 25 02:04AM

> Sounds like fun.
 
> ...on a low-hour plane
 
Yes the smart ones require a recently overhauled engine.
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: May 24 07:24PM -0700

In article <a05a4e3b-b920-403c-b88e-ed3f27a0bfe9@googlegroups.com>,
 
> TSR? Terminate and Stay Resident?
 
Yes. When you used TSR it was impossible to guarantee
you would not crash the system.
 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminate_and_Stay_Resident>
 
--
Michael Press
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: May 24 07:27PM -0700

In article
<342777399454211012.337497address_is-invalid.invalid@news.eternal-septem
ber.org>,
> the experience requirement for airline first officers increased from like
> 250 hours to like 1500, there are plenty of guys out there bidding for
> these jobs, you can rack up 50 hours or more on one of these flights.
 
Neat.
 
--
Michael Press
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 24 06:49PM -0700

http://www.wsj.com/articles/behind-the-rise-and-fall-of-blackberry-1432311912?mod=trending_now_5
xyzzy <address_is@invalid.invalid>: May 25 02:04AM

> http://www.wsj.com/articles/behind-the-rise-and-fall-of-blackberry-1432311912?mod=trending_now_5
 
Looks interesting but it's a subscriber only article.
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BV BV <bv8bv8bv8@gmail.com>: May 24 02:25PM -0700

Human Rights and Justice in Islam
 
 
Description: A glimpse at the foundations of human rights laid by Islam.
By islam-guide.com
 
Islam provides many human rights for the individual. The following are some of these human rights that Islam protects.
 
The life and property of all citizens in an Islamic state are considered sacred, whether a person is Muslim or not. Islam also protects honor. So, in Islam, insulting others or making fun of them is not allowed. The Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, said: "Truly your blood, your property, and your honor are inviolable."[1]
 
Racism is not allowed in Islam, for the Quran speaks of human equality in the following terms:
 
"O mankind, We have created you from a male and a female and have made you into nations and tribes for you to know one another. Truly, the noblest of you with God is the most pious.[2] Truly, God is All-Knowing, All-Aware." (Quran 49:13)
 
Islam rejects certain individuals or nations being favored because of their wealth, power, or race. God created human beings as equals who are to be distinguished from each other only on the basis of their faith and piety. The Prophet Muhammad said: "O people! Your God is one and your forefather (Adam) is one. An Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab, and a red (i.e. white tinged with red) person is not better than a black person and a black person is not better than a red person,[3] except in piety."[4]
 
One of the major problems facing mankind today is racism. The developed world can send a man to the moon but cannot stop man from hating and fighting his fellow man. Ever since the days of the Prophet Muhammad, Islam has provided a vivid example of how racism can be ended. The annual pilgrimage (Hajj) to Makkah shows the real Islamic brotherhood of all races and nations, when about two million Muslims from all over the world come to Makkah to perform the pilgrimage.
 
Islam is a religion of justice. God has said:
 
"Truly God commands you to give back trusts to those to whom they are due, and when you judge between people, to judge with justice...." (Quran 4:58)
 
And He has said:
 
"...And act justly. Truly, God loves those who are just." (Quran 49:9)
 
We should even be just with those who we hate, as God has said:
 
"...And let not the hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety...." (Quran 5:8)
 
The Prophet Muhammad said: "People, beware of injustice,[5] for injustice shall be darkness on the Day of Judgment."[6]
 
And those who have not gotten their rights (i.e. what they have a just claim to) in this life will receive them on the Day of Judgment, as the Prophet said: "On the Day of Judgment, rights will be given to those to whom they are due (and wrongs will be redressed)..."[7]
 
 
Footnotes:
[1] Narrated in Saheeh Al-Bukhari, #1739, and Mosnad Ahmad, #2037.
[2] A pious person is a believer who abstains from all kinds of sins, performs all good deeds that God commands us to do, and fears and loves God.
[3] The colors mentioned in this Prophetic saying are examples. The meaning is that in Islam no one is better than another because of his color, whether it is white, black, red, or any other color.
[4] Narrated in Mosnad Ahmad, #22978.
[5] i.e. oppressing others, acting unjustly, or doing wrong to others.
[6] Narrated in Mosnad Ahmad, #5798, and Saheeh Al-Bukhari, #2447.
[7] Narrated in Saheeh Muslim, #2582, and Mosnad Ahmad, #7163.
 
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/245/
 
Thank you
bleachbot <bleachbot@httrack.com>: May 24 11:25PM +0200

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