Digest for rec.sport.tennis@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

Sunday, August 19, 2018

arahim <arahim_arahim@hotmail.com>: Aug 18 10:58PM -0700

On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 7:37:31 PM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
 
> Same guy will probably be 1st slam winner with shot clock too.
 
> : )
 
Then why was there so much opposition to the shot clock if it was so good and people understood there was no negatives for Nadal in having it?
 
Anyway the real test of the shot clock restriction on Nadal will come against someone like Djokovic who if not as fit is at least close (Not even against Federer who will try to shorten the points, nor against the big servers where the points are short anyway).
 
As you say most of the players that he played against were likely to lose to him anyway.
 
 
MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net>: Aug 19 01:12AM -0700

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 8:58:49 AM UTC+3, arahim wrote:
> Then why was there so much opposition to the shot clock if it was so good and people understood there was no negatives for Nadal in having it?
 
It can cut drama and tension out? We love to see them fight against each other, not against clock/computer?
 
.mikko
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 19 12:37PM +1000

On 19/08/2018 7:31 AM, TT wrote:
 
> Quiz question for Petewasluckcy, Felangey and Dave Hazelwood....
 
> Q: Who was the winner of first ever Masters tournament with a shot clock?
 
> A: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
 
Same guy will probably be 1st slam winner with shot clock too.
 
: )
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 19 06:47PM +1000

On 19/08/2018 3:58 PM, arahim wrote:
 
> Then why was there so much opposition to the shot clock if it was so good and people understood there was no negatives for Nadal in having it?
 
> Anyway the real test of the shot clock restriction on Nadal will come against someone like Djokovic who if not as fit is at least close (Not even against Federer who will try to shorten the points, nor against the big servers where the points are short anyway).
 
> As you say most of the players that he played against were likely to lose to him anyway.
 
Imo this will give Rafa an advantage over Djoker. Laver said Rafa is
fittest ever, not Djoker. There will be much rest time for Djoker
between rallies. He will suffer far more than Rafa imo.
 
I actually was making this point here about 4 yrs ago but was dismissed
as trolling. I was very serious.
 
 
 
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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 19 01:53AM -0700

On Sunday, 19 August 2018 06:58:49 UTC+1, arahim wrote:
 
> Then why was there so much opposition to the shot clock if it was so good and people understood there was no negatives for Nadal in having it?
 
> Anyway the real test of the shot clock restriction on Nadal will come against someone like Djokovic who if not as fit is at least close (Not even against Federer who will try to shorten the points, nor against the big servers where the points are short anyway).
 
> As you say most of the players that he played against were likely to lose to him anyway.
 
there's opposition to the clock cos the ONLY reason it's been implemented is by Fedfans who want to try to hinder Nadal and Djoker, that's the ONLY reason PWL likes it so much cos he thinks it'll give trouble to Nadal/Djoker vs Fed. Problem is it will also allow other players to time waste as much as possible and prolong games.
joh <joshorst@gmail.com>: Aug 19 02:42AM -0700

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 10:12:17 AM UTC+2, MBDunc wrote:
> On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 8:58:49 AM UTC+3, arahim wrote:
> > Then why was there so much opposition to the shot clock if it was so good and people understood there was no negatives for Nadal in having it?
 
> It can cut drama and tension out? We love to see them fight against each other,
 
..instead of see them waste endless amounts of time. There'll be plenty drama left.
 
It makes sense to restrict the time they can use, it makes sense to enforce the rules. If you can't deal with the rules it's gonna cost ya. Nature of the game.
 
I'd be in favour of placing dB-meters, and restrict the amount of noise you can make.
 
 
not against clock/computer?
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 19 04:38AM -0700

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 6:47:22 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
 
> Imo this will give Rafa an advantage over Djoker. Laver said Rafa is
> fittest ever, not Djoker. There will be much rest time for Djoker
> between rallies. He will suffer far more than Rafa imo.
 
fitness should have given the edge to Nadal then why he was the one that often lost in the fifth set or just chicken out in AO this year, surely the edge was with him going into a fifth against Cilic.
 
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Aug 19 04:41AM -0700

Op zondag 19 augustus 2018 10:47:22 UTC+2 schreef Whisper:
 
> Imo this will give Rafa an advantage over Djoker. Laver said Rafa is
> fittest ever, not Djoker. There will be much rest time for Djoker
> between rallies. He will suffer far more than Rafa imo.
 
Rafa is the fittest ever on clay for sure. Outside, I'm not so sure. He may be fitter now than he ever was on hard, though he wasn't always that fit with all his broken toes, feet and knees, no?
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 19 02:52PM +0300

TennisGuy kirjoitti 19.8.2018 klo 3:28:
 
>>> Rafa
 
>> Yes... ah the irony...
 
>   You mind explaining in plain English what the irony is?
 
These guys said that Nadal cheats with time because he can't play fast,
they wanted a shot clock. Then Nadal plays his first tournament with
shot clock and immediately wins. Be careful what you ask for.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 19 03:10PM +0300

MBDunc kirjoitti 19.8.2018 klo 3:50:
 
>> Yes... ah the irony...
 
> As like whisper does, I think this rule generally benefits "better players" a'la Rafa.
 
> .mikko
 
Whisper doesn't say exactly that... he says that it favours fitter players.
 
That's true but not entirely correct; having shorter time favours fitter
player AND big servers. That's not necessarily good because big servers
don't need any more help to promote their spectator unfriendly type of
play - while favouring more fit player is neither a good thing for
tennis fans (rather have skill win than fitness).
 
As for Nadal, I've argued that he actually plays better when he does his
service routines faster and thinks less. The serve becomes more
instinctive and fluent instead of thought-out and forced.
 
Of course when the rallies are long, use of shot clock decreases level
of play and thus works as equalizer of skill (poor player can get closer
in level with better player as the better player's performance lacks the
edge). With two exhausted players it becomes less about skill.
...This is of course true in all sports, poor (playing) conditions help
the worse player to close the skill gap. For example playing pool
billiards with worn out cloth...
 
It all depends on umpire, whether he lets the players rest a bit longer
after long rallies, as he imo should. Umpire starts the clock.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 19 03:20PM +0300

John Liang kirjoitti 19.8.2018 klo 14:38:
> fitness should have given the edge to Nadal then why he was the one that often lost in the fifth set
 
Actually Nadal has been close to all time best on fifth sets, and is
still good.
 
Your question shows your dishonesty since you know that Rafa has lost a
few 5th sets in recent years NOT because of fitness but because of nerves.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 19 06:07AM -0700

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 10:20:23 PM UTC+10, TT wrote:
> still good.
 
> Your question shows your dishonesty since you know that Rafa has lost a
> few 5th sets in recent years NOT because of fitness but because of nerves.
 
Well, if you believe he is fittest guy on tour and also mentally the toughest then he should be able to outlast guys who were both not as fit as him and also mentally not as tough as him. Dishonesty is to believe he is really mentally tougher than other great of thsi generation.
arahim <arahim_arahim@hotmail.com>: Aug 19 06:19AM -0700

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 1:53:16 AM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> > Anyway the real test of the shot clock restriction on Nadal will come against someone like Djokovic who if not as fit is at least close (Not even against Federer who will try to shorten the points, nor against the big servers where the points are short anyway).
 
> > As you say most of the players that he played against were likely to lose to him anyway.
 
> there's opposition to the clock cos the ONLY reason it's been implemented is by Fedfans who want to try to hinder Nadal and Djoker, that's the ONLY reason PWL likes it so much cos he thinks it'll give trouble to Nadal/Djoker vs Fed. Problem is it will also allow other players to time waste as much as possible and prolong games.
 
If it is detrimental to the player whose supporters support it then why so much hue and cry about it by supporters of a player to whom it will be beneficial?
arahim <arahim_arahim@hotmail.com>: Aug 19 06:37AM -0700

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 5:09:48 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> don't need any more help to promote their spectator unfriendly type of
> play - while favouring more fit player is neither a good thing for
> tennis fans (rather have skill win than fitness).
 
If the player is so much more skillful then he can quickly end most points. It is always a mix of skill and fitness.
 
A pitcher who can pitch 20 or 30 great pitches but cannot last the nine innings is not going to be pitching for the major portion of the game.
 
> As for Nadal, I've argued that he actually plays better when he does his
> service routines faster and thinks less. The serve becomes more
> instinctive and fluent instead of thought-out and forced.
 
Then let it be.
 
> ...This is of course true in all sports, poor (playing) conditions help
> the worse player to close the skill gap. For example playing pool
> billiards with worn out cloth...
 
Not necessarily. Part of being skillful is dealing with different conditions. conditions that lead to randomization do close the gap between the skillful and the unskillful. The shot clock is a not a random condition change. It is a systematic change against which practicing will improve that skill. Some will improve more and some less.
 
> It all depends on umpire, whether he lets the players rest a bit longer
> after long rallies, as he imo should. Umpire starts the clock.
 
Why not allow a 400 meter runner breaks after every 100 meters? Yes the run time over 400 meters will be improved and depending on the length of break the 100 meter runner will beat the 400 meter runner. That is an extreme case but as the sport develops at different times emphasis is given to different things. Why allow non-wood racquets or why have hardcourts or why still have grass and clay or why allow advantage to a taller player in serving or why have this size for a court and not that or have a shot clock or anything else.
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Aug 19 02:17PM +0100

On 18/08/2018 10:02, The Iceberg wrote:
 
>>> this Rasmussen is clearly the best and most accurate poll out there.
 
>> Your idiocy knows no bounds!
 
> you love for Hillary has no bounds!
 
Thanks for proving my case, as you never fail to do.
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Aug 19 02:15PM +0100

On 17/08/2018 16:17, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> Who is this total nobody? Obs really nice person, deserting he 7 year old daughter to go to some Z_rates show in a foreign country!
 
I wouldn't dream of watching CBB, but I hear that the producers
(Endemol, not Channel 5), had planned the series around SD, and
that she would be 'the President of the House', and would live
in a separate 'White House', with her VP, and issue Executive
Orders to the other celebs. There may also be a wall in the
garden.
 
When she discovered this plan she withdrew completely and has
been 'gagged' by C5.
 
She was apparently going to be paid $500k or maybe $750k, perhaps
for just a week's stay.
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Aug 19 02:07PM +0100

On 17/08/2018 22:14, The Iceberg wrote:
 
>>> no ALL you bankers are corrupt, lying and only care about money, absolutely nothing else, ZERO morals, decency or concern for anyone or anything else. You just exploit and steal from people for a living, same with lawyers. Quit trying to trick us, lying corrupt banker.
 
>> Sounds like a common description of someone else?
 
> yes, but you're not that bad! even though all the scum bankers backed Hillary just like you and despite your continual posting fake news like that anti-Trump space ship crew pic that you tried to claim was made by a Trump fan.
 
If you reread my posts you won't find that I claimed that Roger Stone
did anything other than post the image, which he did. I doubt that he
would have the skills to produce it himself. Nothing fake from me.
 
What about all the non-scum bankers? Did they back Trump? No, didn't
think so. As ever, show me any post where I 'backed Hillary'? Bet ya
can't/won't find one.
 
BTW, maybe we should all avoid doing anything to make Trump any worse.
 
"Mr. Trump was emotionally/psychologically unwell when he became
president. His condition is clearly worsening. He's becoming more
volatile, erratic and unstable. At some point he's going to blow apart.
When he does it'll create a crisis. This won't end well. Pray for our
country."
 
Peter Wehner @Peter_Wehner
 
Senior Fellow @eppcdc. Worked in Reagan and Bush41 administrations and
Bush43 White House.
 
Similar story, "Anyone who has known Trump for years, and doesn't have a
stake in his political career or the GOP, says the same. He is unwell
and has been getting progressively worse over the past 18 months."
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 19 02:05AM -0700

On Friday, 17 August 2018 22:59:06 UTC+1, TennisGuy wrote:
 
> > oh yes showing the guys with the "most" slams after 30 really shows that.
 
> OK smart ass, you got a better way to show how difficult it is to win
> slams after 30?
 
yes list everyone that has won a slam over 30.
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Aug 19 10:17AM +0300

On 19/08/2018 5.26, Whisper wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 6:19:00 PM UTC+3, Patrick Kehoe wrote:
>>>> Stan just has an additional mental bug with Federer, for obvious
>>>> reasons, that he doesn't have against Rafa or Nole...
 
It's just that Fed has played with all ten toes intact. Take one out,
and Wrinka wins against him too.
 
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"We're trying to help you, Sir"
-- Paramedic in "Little Fockers"
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 19 01:55AM -0700

On Saturday, 18 August 2018 15:48:16 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
> On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 10:24:46 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
> > Lol at tennis newby Raspy, Stan's h2h vs Fed is 20-3! That' means out of 23 times they've played, Fed's won 20 times! Go work on your tennis knowledge, get a clue.
 
> Translation: Nut Ice has no answer. He he he.
 
goodness, you really that dumb! not content with losing every single other argument vs me, you're now trying to say Stan is > Fed, despite me quoting their ridiculous h2h. You hilarious!
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 19 02:00AM -0700

On Sunday, 19 August 2018 08:17:57 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
> >>>> reasons, that he doesn't have against Rafa or Nole...
 
> It's just that Fed has played with all ten toes intact. Take one out,
> and Wrinka wins against him too.
 
not at the O2, Fed had way less than 10 toes there, was missing an entire leg and still Stan didn't win. Granted he had to deal with Mirko's cheating too(for which she should've been banned from all tournaments after), which propelled him on to better play afterwards though.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 19 02:03AM -0700

On Saturday, 18 August 2018 17:15:52 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> He is playing the other players' way. He needs to get his mental focus back to remember how to play smart the same way he has done it for years.
 
> His errors are not due to execution or foot work but mainly because of bad decisions selecting how to play it, knowing his court location, etc.
 
> He hasn't been mentally sharp but he will need to be soon if he wants to win titles again.
 
here is my opinion - Fed is STILL AT PEAK! he in the final, what more proof do you want?!
RzR <2r4z0r2@gmail.com>: Aug 19 11:05AM +0300

On 8/18/2018 9:57 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Djokovic is serving in 10-15 seconds.
 
it is good, prevents cheaters from stalling...
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 19 12:35AM +0300

bob kirjoitti 17.8.2018 klo 4:20:
 
> gays actually have numerous parades every year, dozens. raja can
> inform us of more detail.
 
> bob
 
Goddamn those gays are wealthy!
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 19 12:27AM +0300

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dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 01:20PM -0700

Fixed data stats crap..
 
???
 
WHERE'S THE SHIT???
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: Aug 18 02:32PM -0700

On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 4:20:15 PM UTC-4, dcp7 wrote:
> Fixed data stats crap..
 
> ???
 
> WHERE'S THE SHIT???
 
aw gee...
 
posted below, but here for you, special up to date:
 
View in fixed font!
Raw data from Baseball-Reference.com
 
HITTING
Ev = Events = PA + SB + CS
OC = Outs Created = AB-H + CS + SF + SH + GIDP + OoB
BP = Bases Produced = TB+BB+SB+SF+SH-CS-GIDP+HBP+CI+XBT
AdjOPS = BP/ ( OC or 1, whichever is more )
PfAdjOPS = AdjOPS corrected for Park Factor
 
TBR hitting Ev OC BP AdjOPS PfAdjOPS
VidalNuno TBR 2 1 2 2.000 2.0513
BlakeSnell TBR 3 1 2 2.000 2.0513
DanielRobertson TBR 344 224 178 .795 .8150
MallexSmith TBR 438 284 223 .785 .8053
JakeBauers TBR 267 182 141 .775 .7946
ChristianArroyo TBR 59 39 28 .718 .7364
C.J.Cron TBR 449 318 227 .714 .7321
MichaelPerez TBR 49 34 23 .676 .6938
Ji-ManChoi TBR+ 111 81 55 .679 .6895
WillyAdames TBR 187 129 86 .667 .6838
JoeyWendle TBR 397 276 184 .667 .6838
TommyPham TBR+ 428 299 199 .666 .6759
MattDuffy TBR 444 301 187 .621 .6372
CarlosGomez TBR 368 261 161 .617 .6327
KevinKiermaier TBR 263 200 97 .485 .4974
RobRefsnyder TBR 105 80 36 .450 .4615
BrandonSnyder TBR 6 5 2 .400 .4103
JesusSucre TBR 145 112 43 .384 .3938
BrandonLowe TBR 30 24 8 .333 .3419
AdamMoore TBR 6 5 1 .200 .2051
SergioRomo TBR 1 1 0 .000 .0000
RyanYarbrough TBR 3 3 0 .000 .0000
RyanWeber TBR 1 1 0 .000 .0000
AndrewKittredge TBR 1 1 0 .000 .0000
JustinWilliams TBR 1 2 -1 -.500 -0.5128
---------------------------------------------------------------
TBR 4762 3292 2155 .654617
 
PITCHING
Ev = Events = Batters Faced + Steal Attempts
OI = Outs Induced = AB-H + CS + SF + SH + GIDP
BG = Bases Given = TB+BB+SB+SF+SH-CS-GIDP+HBP + (BK+WP-IBB)
AdjOPS = BG/ ( OI or 1, whichever is more )
PfAdjOPS = AdjOPS corrected for Park Factor
 
TBR pitching Ev OI BG AdjOPS PfAdjOPS
DanielRobertson TBR 3 3 0 .000 .0000
JohnnyField TBR 4 3 1 .333 .3419
VidalNuno TBR 96 73 32 .438 .4496
JoseAlvarado TBR 214 153 72 .471 .4827
Chih-WeiHu TBR 39 31 15 .484 .4963
BlakeSnell TBR 530 399 208 .521 .5347
RyneStanek TBR 198 148 78 .527 .5405
ChazRoe TBR 153 110 58 .527 .5408
AnthonyBanda TBR 56 43 23 .535 .5486
DiegoCastillo TBR 143 103 57 .553 .5676
JaimeSchultz TBR 81 59 33 .559 .5737
SergioRomo TBR 229 161 97 .602 .6179
AdamKolarek TBR 69 47 29 .617 .6328
AustinPruitt TBR 251 177 112 .633 .6490
YonnyChirinos TBR 223 156 100 .641 .6575
TylerGlasnow TBR+ 301 205 133 .649 .6626
RyanYarbrough TBR 499 345 227 .658 .6748
RyanWeber TBR 27 18 12 .667 .6838
JakeFaria TBR 251 171 120 .702 .7197
WilmerFont TBR+ 194 132 105 .795 .8127
HunterWood TBR 122 78 62 .795 .8153
AndrewKittredge TBR 118 74 66 .892 .9148
HobyMilner TBR+ 33 19 21 1.105 1.0998
JesusSucre TBR 7 3 5 1.667 1.7094
CarlosGomez TBR 5 1 6 6.000 6.1538
---------------------------------------------------------------
TBR 4616 3278 2040 .622331
 
 
- nate
dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 03:22PM -0700

ok thanks..
dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 03:22PM -0700

On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 4:20:15 PM UTC-4, dcp7 wrote:
> Fixed data stats crap..
 
> ???
 
> WHERE'S THE SHIT???
 
Tank u..
dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 11:50AM -0700

Devers too..
I say horse-shit..rest..lead is so big and RSN plays cupcakes..one series after another..
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"Jason Todd!!!" <janklowicz24@yahoo.com>: Aug 19 12:47AM -0700

On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 11:42:35 PM UTC-4, ]v[etaphoid wrote:
> two Mong Bros about how it might pertain to this thread, starting with
> the OP.
 
> Good luck with that, Einstein...
 
https://tinyurl.com/y8swluvl
 
THERE
 
Are you happy now, you apparently-incapable-of-a-simple-search-FUCKWIT??
 
Jason
]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con>: Aug 19 06:34PM +1000

me laid this down on his screen :
>>> about that on a fucking message board. Go troll somewhere else.
 
>> Do you think you wipe sufficiently after you take a shit?
 
> I don't know, why don't you kiss my ass and find out?
 
Why do you think so many people say that you stink?
]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con>: Aug 19 06:37PM +1000

Jason Todd!!! used his keyboard to write :
 
> THERE
 
> Are you happy now, you apparently-incapable-of-a-simple-search-FUCKWIT??
 
> Jason
 
ROFL!
 
You stupid fuck! That article bares no resemblence to the uncreditted
piece you posted. Are you trying to make yourself look stupid?
 
Another victory for the toddler...
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Aug 19 01:41AM -0700

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 4:34:50 AM UTC-4, ]v[etaphoid wrote:
 
> >> Do you think you wipe sufficiently after you take a shit?
 
> > I don't know, why don't you kiss my ass and find out?
 
> Why do you think so many people say that you stink?
 
no one says that
]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con>: Aug 19 06:48PM +1000

me used his keyboard to write :
 
>>> I don't know, why don't you kiss my ass and find out?
 
>> Why do you think so many people say that you stink?
 
> no one says that
 
Keep telling yourself that.
 
But it really would be easier and a lot more considerate of those
around you if you'd just use a little deodorant and take a little more
care with your wiping...
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Aug 19 01:54AM -0700

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 4:48:18 AM UTC-4, ]v[etaphoid wrote:
 
> But it really would be easier and a lot more considerate of those
> around you if you'd just use a little deodorant and take a little more
> care with your wiping...
 
It would also be easier if you would stop talking out of your ass about things you know nothing about, then again, that has yet to stop you. I mean seriously, how old are you?
]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con>: Aug 19 06:40PM +1000

Pope Acolyte Of Glorious La Parka~, King And Master Of Men And Lover Of
Women explained on 18/08/2018 :
>> I respect him.
 
> His name might be Metaphoid... He just has a fancy schmanzy M.
 
> Just sayin.
 
]v[aybe it is. ]v[aybe it isn't...
]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con>: Aug 19 06:33PM +1000

robert stickler has brought this to us :
> We chased Chadlee off for good. We won't see him around here again.
 
Of course we'll see him back, Rob.
 
He literally has noone and nowhere else to go...
"Caesar." <caesar@.>: Aug 19 06:15AM

See what happens.
]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con>: Aug 19 06:31PM +1000

Caesar. explained :
> See what happens.
 
How exactly would a person molest cats, fail to wash and cry themself
to sleep on Usenet?
The Chad <thechad@mailinator.com>: Aug 19 05:14AM

On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 21:42:41 -0700, Alexander "Dink" Cain wrote:
 
>> his self-fucking pranks. Cross your fingers it doesn't interfere with
>> his planned big social night with the Mormon elite...
 
> Dude, you aren't the one getting the phone calls.
 
Neither are you, "dude".
The Chad <thechad@mailinator.com>: Aug 19 05:15AM

On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 21:44:00 -0700, Alexander "Dink" Cain wrote:
 
> https://imgur.com/a/RAnLybr
 
Wrong county, Dink.
madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com: Aug 18 10:24PM -0700

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 1:14:26 AM UTC-4, The Chad wrote:
> >> his planned big social night with the Mormon elite...
 
> > Dude, you aren't the one getting the phone calls.
 
> Neither are you, "dude".
 
 
Lying gets you nowhere, Chadlee.
madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com: Aug 18 10:27PM -0700

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 1:15:24 AM UTC-4, The Chad wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 21:44:00 -0700, Alexander "Dink" Cain wrote:
 
> > https://imgur.com/a/RAnLybr
 
> Wrong county, Dink.
 
 
Are you now admitting to having made the calls?
 
I think you are lying. But let's say you aren't.
That doesn't matter. I am sure the nice people of the Burlington Police Department will be able to assist me in tracking down the correct law enforcement jurisdiction.
 
https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-16/chapter-11/article-2/16-11-39-1/
 
A person commits the offense of harassing phone calls if such person telephones another person repeatedly, whether or not conversation ensues, for the purpose of annoying, harassing, or molesting another person or the family of such other person; uses over the telephone language threatening bodily harm; telephones and intentionally fails to hang up or disengage the connection; or knowingly permits any telephone under such person's control to be used for any purpose prohibited by this subsection.
 
 
https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/personal-injury/types-of-personal-injury-claims/options-telephone-harassment.html
 
 
Not every call is harassing under the meaning of the law. There is a difference between an annoying call and a harassing one. Telephone harassment occurs when someone intends to annoy, harass, or threaten you by:
 
making a telephone continually ring
making lewd, indecent, or obscene comments, suggestions, or requests over the telephone
making a telephone call without identifying onesself
making repeated telephone calls where the conversation consists only of harassment, or
making a telephone call and using heavy breathing or silence with an intent to intimidate.
 
 
What Other Factors Should I Consider Regarding Whether Calls Constitute Harassment?
Also take into account:
 
the timing of the calls: for instance, calls made in the middle of the night are more likely to be harassing
the frequency of the calls
whether the calls include threats to injure or kidnap, and
whether the calls include lewd or obscene language.
The Chad <thechad@mailinator.com>: Aug 19 05:30AM

On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 21:46:18 -0700, Alexander "Dink" Cain wrote:
 
> caller ID, then throw the whole thing together in Final Cut and upload
> to YouTube.
 
> But I can't afford any of the equipment needed. Also, I'm a liar.
 
FTFY, sibling toucher.
]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con>: Aug 19 06:27PM +1000

> audience back in April. The NDAs for that thing read like you would not
> believe. Seriously. Like 20 pages long and one clause even mentioned that if
> you caught an STD from anyone on cast or crew, production wasn't liable. Man.
 
Do you think you may have caught an STD from someone on the cast or
crew?
The Chad <thechad@mailinator.com>: Aug 19 01:59AM

On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 09:13:38 +1000, ]v[etaphoid wrote:
 
> buy a few CDs of your own
 
Who the fuck still buys CDs, you pathetic fraud?
madeforzyngagames@yahoo.com: Aug 18 08:53PM -0700

On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 7:19:53 PM UTC-4, ]v[etaphoid wrote:
> except with less strenuous checks for drivers).
 
> His common problem is that his poor ratings means he finds it difficult
> to attract sufficient customs to pay the bills.
 
 
Would YOU want John to drive you around? Christ, it'd be like dying and going to Hell with your eternal punishment.
 
 
 
Since most Lyft drivers
"Jason Todd!!!" <janklowicz24@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 12:59PM -0700

In times of crisis, the leaders of the military and intelligence communities try to put aside their differences, often many and sundry, and work together for the good of the country. That's what's happening today with a remarkable group of retired generals, admirals and spymasters who have signed up for the resistance, telling the president of the United States, in so many words, that he is not a king.
 
Thirteen former leaders of the Pentagon, the C.I.A. and the F.B.I. have signed an open letter standing foursquare against President Trump, in favor of freedom of speech and, crucially, for the administration of justice. They have served presidents going back to Richard M. Nixon mostly without publicly criticizing the political conduct of a sitting commander in chief — until now.
 
"We have never before seen the approval or removal of security clearances used as a political tool, as was done in this case."
They rebuked Mr. Trump for revoking the security clearance of John Brennan, the C.I.A. director under President Obama, in retaliation for his scalding condemnations and, ominously, for his role in "the rigged witch hunt" — the investigation into Russia's attempt to fix the 2016 election, now in the hands of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel. The president's latest attempt to punish or silence everyone connected with the case, along with his fiercest critics in political life, will not be his last.
 
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First he went after his F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, and the acting attorney general, Sally Yates. Then he came for Mr. Brennan. Now it's Bruce Ohr, a previously obscure Justice Department official targeted by right-wing conspiracy theories, a man who will lose his job if he loses his clearances. Tomorrow it may be James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence, a cable-news Trump critic and a co-signer of the letter. It's clear there will be more.
 
Opinion | John O. Brennan
John Brennan: President Trump's Claims of No Collusion Are HogwashAug. 16, 2018
 
The president aims to rid the government and the airwaves of his real and imagined enemies, especially anyone connected with the Russia investigation. Somewhere Richard Nixon may be looking up and smiling. But aboveground, the special counsel is taking notes.


The list of the signatories to the open letter defending Mr. Brennan is striking for the length and breadth of their experience. I never expected to see William H. Webster — he's 95 years old, served nine years as F. B.I. director under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan, then four more as C.I.A. director under Reagan and President George H. W. Bush — sign a political petition like this. The same with Robert M. Gates, who entered the C.I.A. under President Lyndon Johnson, ran it under George H. W. Bush and served as Secretary of Defense under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama. These are not the kind of men who march on Washington. These are men who were marched upon.
 
t's clear that Mr. Brennan's fierce political and personal attacks rattled the china in the Oval Office. The president essentially has accused Mr. Brennan of lèse majesté — the crime of criticizing the monarch, tantamount to treason. Remarkably, this relic of the days when kings were deemed divine remains on the books in some European monarchies as well as nations like Saudi Arabia, where a critique of the crown is considered terrorism.
 
It's not a crime in the United States. That's why we fought a revolution against a mad king.
 
For nine months now, the president has been ranting about the "Deep State." He sees it as a coterie of present and former leaders of F.B.I. gumshoes and C.I.A. spooks who are out to get him through leaks and lies. There is no deep state in America — at least, there hasn't been the threat of one since J. Edgar Hoover died in 1972, six weeks before the Watergate break-in. But in the mind of Donald Trump, if any group of retired military and intelligence officers could serve as the shadow cabinet for a silent coup, it's men like Bill McRaven and Bob Gates. They worked for Obama! (Yes, and Reagan, too.)
 
 
Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Look how things have turned around on the Criminal Deep State. They go after Phony Collusion with Russia, a made up Scam, and end up getting caught in a major SPY scandal the likes of which this country may never have seen before! What goes around, comes around!
 
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You don't need a secret decoder ring to see what's happening here. John Brennan, who knows whereof he speaks, believes that the president is a threat to the security of the United States — a counterintelligence threat, no less, in thrall to President Vladimir Putin of Russia. The president attacks him, severing Mr. Brennan's access to classified information. The deans of national security rise up to defend him — and, by implication, intelligence officers and federal investigators who are closing in on the White House.
 
They are sending a message to active-duty generals and admirals, soldiers and spies. Remember your oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Think twice before following this man's orders in a crisis. You might first consider throwing down your stars.
 
Tim Weiner, a former reporter with The Times, is author of "Enemies: A History of the F.B.I.," and "Legacy of Ashes: The History of the C.I.A."
 
Follow The New York Times Opinion section on Facebook and Twitter (@NYTopinion), and sign u
 
 
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]v[etaphoid <met@phoid.con>: Aug 18 07:45PM +1000

me brought next idea :
>> wrestling -- if you dare call it that.
 
> Except only YOU would call it that, because you are an elitist snob. Just
> another thing, much like comics, that you don't understand.
 
Enough about your comic books already...
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