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Thursday, August 10, 2017

*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Aug 10 03:55AM +0200


> https://twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/895301904430968832
 
I can't describe the level of disgust I feel for the fake news now.
 
For months, years, they've been brainwashing and scaring people
with "mad Korean leader" and surprise, now he's not that crazy
anymore, he's just "bad" and president Trump gets the crazy
label.
 
Not that I, or anyone of free mind, thought Kim was every that
crazy to begin with.
 
But the spins and efforts the media make to discredit Trump are
unbelievable. These are the most dangerous creatures out here.

 
Trump should declare martial law, arrest all the fake news
journalists, neutralize their malignant propaganda and start open
negotiations with Kim.
 
They could sort it out in less than a week.
 
 
 
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bob <bob@nospam.net>: Aug 09 10:20PM -0400

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:55:43 +0200 (CEST), *skriptis
> unbelievable. These are the most dangerous creatures out here.
 
>Trump should declare martial law, arrest all the fake news
> journalists,
 
ignoring them is more fun. they HATE to be ignored.
 
> neutralize their malignant propaganda and start open
> negotiations with Kim.
>They could sort it out in less than a week.
 
bob
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 10 08:32AM +0300

*skriptis kirjoitti 10.8.2017 klo 4:55:
 
>> https://twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/895301904430968832
 
> I can't describe the level of disgust I feel for the fake news now.
 
As do I, for the real fake news.
 
> with "mad Korean leader" and surprise, now he's not that crazy
> anymore, he's just "bad" and president Trump gets the crazy
> label.
 
You damn moron. I predicted this situation months ago... and here we
are, Trump threatening North Korea with fire and fury. His cabinet
giving mixed messages to NK.
 
Yes, Kim and North Korea is always a liability... but OF COURSE the
American media is more interested in US president, and frankly he can
not be trusted either on matters like these. This is a man who asked
several times "If we have nuclear weapons why can't we use them".
 
Trump is apparently seriously deliberating a nuclear first strike. You
see already Bob & Jaros sort of siding with Trump on the matter.
 
What do you expect US media to say... that Kim is crazy and first strike
is the only possibility? How do you expect even more crazy North Korea
to respond if they think that USA might do a first strike?!?
...The point is that Trump's attempts to escalate SHOULD be criticized
by the media. This is not a man who can handle diplomacy and thus is a
pretty big risk. Even 1% chance of pre-emptive strike from one side or
another is not acceptable. USA should be the adult in the room, while
North Korea is truly twisted country.
 
If first strike would happen that would be devastating not only for the
target but for the entire balance of fear with nuclear weapons...
imagine all the nuclear states fearing the real possibility of first
strike. What would that lead to...
 
Kim is unlikely to commit mass suicide doing first strike. How about Trump?
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Aug 10 01:42PM +0200


> You damn moron. I predicted this situation months ago... and here we
> are, Trump threatening North Korea with fire and fury. His cabinet
> giving mixed messages to NK.
 
 
First of all, behave yourself. Don't insult. Now, you think
threatening with fire and fury is worse than saying north Korea
is an evil county? You know what happened to other couple of
"evil" countries?
They got utterly destroyed by the neocon war machine. What did
Trump verbally do that Bush or Obama didn't?
So cut the crap.
 
 
 
 
> American media is more interested in US president, and frankly he can
> not be trusted either on matters like these. This is a man who asked
> several times "If we have nuclear weapons why can't we use them".
 
 
I trust Trump 100%, have utmost confidence in his moral judgement.
Now what, prove your opinion is more worth?
 
 
 
 
> Trump is apparently seriously deliberating a nuclear first strike. You
> see already Bob & Jaros sort of siding with Trump on the matter.
 
 
Because they're Americans. Not only they were always victorious in
wars, they didn't even suffer in wars. E.g. Russians were
victorious too but suffered greatly. Americans miss that
experience. That makes them maybe overly confident and trigger
happy.
It's normal.
 
That's where the media comes. They should really be more
patriotic, more unbiased, and more helpful to Trump.

As it is, you have three sides, like in that gunfight in good, bad
and the ugly.
Kim, Trump and Trump's enemies.
 
Trump is a good guy, Kim is ugly and fake news are bad.
 
 
 
 
> pretty big risk. Even 1% chance of pre-emptive strike from one side or
> another is not acceptable. USA should be the adult in the room, while
> North Korea is truly twisted country.
 
 
The thing is, it's not only about Kim. China doesn't control him
100% but he's a Chinese tool in global showdown vs America. You
must not forget that too.
Americans are in the south Korea, so China friendly regime in the
north provides a balance.
 
You can't solve north Korean nuclear problem without having this
in mind. Basically it's Chinese pushing and expanding, projecting
power globally more and more so Kim gets bolder and bolder.

 
We have to congratulate them too on their restraint and wisdom.
These situations with emerging powers have always historically
led to wars.
 
 
 
 
> imagine all the nuclear states fearing the real possibility of first
> strike. What would that lead to...
 
> Kim is unlikely to commit mass suicide doing first strike. How about Trump?
 
 
Irrelevant. Your whole analysis of this complex and old
geopolitical issue is a form of Trump bashing. It's pathetic
really.
 
 
These are the options.
 
1. USA accepts north Korea becoming nuclear power. Sounds shocking
but why not? We've seen other major nuclear powers not shitting
their pants so should millions in and around Korea really die
because Grachus is scared of Kim's powerful penetrating
missile?
 
2. USA doesn't accept north Korea becoming nuclear power and
invades north Korea, or bombs it. Pretty shitty scenario, many
dying, for which Grachus will be guilty.
 
3. Most ideal scenario, but very unlikely due to neocon scum. USA
leaves north Korea alone, promises to respect their sovereignty,
removes sanctions and they abandon development of their wmd,
rockets etc.
 
But the thing is, why would they do it, when the whole world has
seen you can't trust the bloodthirsty neocons. Saddam removed all
wmd and they killed him and destroyed Iraq. Gadaffi removed wmd
as well and Libya was attacked, destroyed and he was sodomized
with the sword in his anus and Hillary laughed at it.

 
You can't blame Kim for not buying it. Having nukes with an
ability to at least harm USA, is what keeps him safe in a lawless
world that neocons created.
 
 
 
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TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 10 03:54PM +0300

*skriptis kirjoitti 10.8.2017 klo 14:42:
> I trust Trump 100%, have utmost confidence in his moral judgement.
 
I don't think he even has one.
Gerrit Rijtoopje <me@privacy.net>: Aug 10 02:36PM +0100

>>(US ally) with traditional and chemical weapons as well.
 
>if they did that to their own korean brothers then what does that tell
>you about them and what they deserve.
 
1861 - 1865
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 10 06:49AM -0700

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 4:42:59 AM UTC-7, *skriptis wrote:
 
> You can't blame Kim for not buying it. Having nukes with an
> ability to at least harm USA, is what keeps him safe in a lawless
> world that neocons created.
 
This. He knows what happened in Libya after Gaddafi (sp?) gave up his Nuclear
program in an effort to get along with the Blob.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Aug 10 08:51AM -0500

On 8/10/2017 12:32 AM, TT wrote:
>> anymore, he's just "bad" and president Trump gets the crazy
>> label.
 
> You damn moron. I predicted this situation months ago...
 
That's because you are a Trump hater, and therefore it's always
predictable, even to yourself, what you are going to say about Trump.
 
Those comparing Trump unfavorably to Kim are exposing themselves as
laughable in the worst way.
 
 
 
 
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TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 10 05:07PM +0300

stephenJ kirjoitti 10.8.2017 klo 16:51:
> Those comparing Trump unfavorably to Kim
 
And who are these people?
 
It's just Skriptis' imagination. He doesn't even follow US news afaik.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 10 07:13AM -0700

Also their papers and stations going bankrupt cos of such awful journalism is fun too.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 10 07:15AM -0700

It can't be any worse than what Hillary and Obama did to Syria, Libya and Iraq.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Aug 09 10:37PM -0700

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 6:47:52 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
 
> it's subjective for sure, but just counting most slams has its
> problems. say a guy has most slams and 0 wimbledons? he cannot be GOAT
> in my book.
 
When someone is in the reckoning for goat, the player will be expected to have slams on all surfaces (CGS), especially the prestigious W. In the absence of such a feat the player will have to give way to others who have the credentials. Since all the goat contenders have multiple W wins, based on empirical evidence, your scenario appears unlikely.
 
> H2H over fed
 
> 1 more wimbledon, and even with 5 less wimbledons than fed he'll be
> GOAT to me with 19.
 
Federer has only one FO win.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 10 08:43AM +0300

RaspingDrive kirjoitti 10.8.2017 klo 8:37:
 
>> 1 more wimbledon, and even with 5 less wimbledons than fed he'll be
>> GOAT to me with 19.
 
> Federer has only one FO win.
 
AND without beating Nadal. Clearly it's Federer's resume with bigger
weaknesses.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Aug 09 10:53PM -0700

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 1:43:26 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
 
> > Federer has only one FO win.
 
> AND without beating Nadal. Clearly it's Federer's resume with bigger
> weaknesses.
 
Federer's also has strengths like 302 weeks at Number 1, 6 YEC titles. You may think YEC is not important but Rafa should get at least one.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Aug 10 08:53AM -0500

On 8/10/2017 12:43 AM, TT wrote:
 
>> Federer has only one FO win.
 
> AND without beating Nadal. Clearly it's Federer's resume with bigger
> weaknesses.
 
No, Fed is unanimous open era GOAT right now because Rafa has one
decisive weakness - 4 fewer slams than Fed.
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 11 12:11AM +1000

On 10/08/2017 8:45 AM, bob wrote:
 
> they will for sure. but i don't think i'll be 1 of them unless rafa
> gets a 3rd wimbledon.
 
> bob
 
It wouldn't be difficult to make a strong case for Rafa > Fed;
 
- Rafa is more versatile as he won multiple slams on all 3 surfaces
- Rafa dominated a slam & a surface for more comprehensively than Fed
- Rafa dominated Fed h2h
- Rafa is the only man to win at least 1 slam 10 years in row
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Aug 10 03:33AM -0700

Op woensdag 9 augustus 2017 22:40:25 UTC+2 schreef SliceAndDice:
> The 18 year old just beat DelPo in straights to set up a potential third round encounter with Nadal.
 
> I have been following this kid's career over the past year or so. He has a great lefty serve, firepower off both wings especially that lovely one-handed backhand, an all-court game and does not seem intimidated by the big stage. He nearly upset Berdych in Queen's (a Berdych who was playing superbly), has beaten Kyrgios before and now DelPo. Always liked his game but beginning to feel more and more like he's the real deal.
 
> Anyone else has any thoughts on him?
 
He's the one who fired a missile straight at the umpire's face during a DC match last year I believe... One of the scariest things I've seen on a tennis court. Could have easily killed the guy, or blinded him for life. At least he looked terrified after it, which he should.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbYoB5sdWo4
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 10 06:56AM -0700

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 3:33:35 AM UTC-7, kaennorsing wrote:
 
> He's the one who fired a missile straight at the umpire's face during a DC match last year I believe... One of the scariest things I've seen on a tennis court. Could have easily killed the guy, or blinded him for life. At least he looked terrified after it, which he should.
 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbYoB5sdWo4
 
 
Wow. That is horrible.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 10 07:03AM -0700

Oh that's why his name is familiar! Annoyingly didn't see him at Wimbledon except possibly in doubles, else would like to give an assessment.
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Aug 10 02:46PM +0300

On 10/08/2017 2.23, TT wrote:
>> unpredictable, or like leaning up against a wall in a room with the
>> "nuke button" there, etc.
 
> The problem is... that may not be the best tactic with North Korea...
 
I'm not sure "unpredictability" is a viable tactic in international
politics. You have to have credibility too.
 
So far, Trump has threatened the Congress, the Chinese, Mueller,
Europeans with red lines, steel tariffs, currency manipulating charges
and what not. And Paper Tigered out of every single one.
 
Now he's setting up a red line on ... talk. "There will be fire, fury,
or, frankly, nothingburgers if you badmouth us again". Let's see how
this Paper Tigers along.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 10 04:48PM +0300

Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 10.8.2017 klo 14:46:
> I'm not sure "unpredictability" is a viable tactic in international
> politics.
 
And especially when it comes to talks about nuclear weapons. First
strike should be always off the table... even more so with easily
provoked nuts.
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Aug 10 04:58PM +0300

On 10/08/2017 16.48, TT wrote:
 
> And especially when it comes to talks about nuclear weapons. First
> strike should be always off the table... even more so with easily
> provoked nuts.
 
Of course, for bob, being nuts is now kosher. Just because Trump happens
to be nuts.
 
Fanbois ...
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Aug 10 04:50PM +0300

On 10/08/2017 1.27, bob wrote:
>> 1) keeps the refugees coming
 
> i read that many of the refugees have returned and it's slowing down.
> you have to stop reading the fake news pelle.
 
They're just stowed away in refugee camps in Turkey. Out of sight, out
of minds.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 10 05:02AM -0700

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 12:17:45 PM UTC+10, bob wrote:
 
> >Just like a million other people did.
 
> can you also post the last 5 games of the 08 wimbledon final?
 
> bob
 
Can you post the full match of Hewitt vs Sampras USO final ?
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Aug 10 05:53AM -0700

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 8:02:21 AM UTC-4, John Liang wrote:
 
> > can you also post the last 5 games of the 08 wimbledon final?
 
> > bob
 
> Can you post the full match of Hewitt vs Sampras USO final ?
 
Not the Nadal, Soderling FO match, 26,26,26!?!?
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