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Tuesday, July 11, 2017

Tim <firemonkey@gatty.co.uk>: Jul 11 05:59PM +0100

So much for the hype.
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Manuel aka Xax <xamigax@gmail.com>: Jul 11 01:05PM -0700

Le mardi 11 juillet 2017 18:59:09 UTC+2, Tim a écrit :
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Quite not.
Looks like she didn't want to get #1 this way ;-)
calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 11 01:07PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 6:59:09 PM UTC+2, Tim wrote:
> http://mcpin.org/
> https://www.mqmentalhealth.org/
> https://join.worldcommunitygrid.org?recruiterId=123388
 
 
Good riddance!
 
 
Max
calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 11 11:30AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 8:01:52 PM UTC+2, TT wrote:
> > Hillary's e-mails?
 
> It's not entirely same, although still criminal.
 
> Maybe a better comparison would be colluding with Al-Qaeda?
 
 
But what dirt info did the Russian lawyer provide?
And what did the Trump campaign promise to give the Russians in return?
 
Or is it another nothingburger?
 
 
Max
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jul 11 05:58PM +0100

On 11/07/2017 17:19, The Iceberg wrote:
>> they had might never have existed.
 
> targeting Hillary with a fishing email that any 14 year old could've sent?
> targeting Hillary by mentioning her dodgy email server in her house that everyone knew about?
 
True, the Russians apparently had Podesta's email account in March, so
about 3 months earlier. The DNC hacked emails were published in July,
so most probably also in Russian hands before June.
 
 
 
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Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jul 11 06:00PM +0100

<https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/rob-goldstone-trump-jr-meeting-russian-lawyer>
 
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 11 12:10PM -0500

On 7/11/2017 11:08 AM, TT wrote:
 
> That's not very relevant though.. Jr & pals committed crime when going
> to meet the Russians in order to get stolen material. Could be called
> 'treason'. Or high treason, whatever the difference is...
 
Do you understand the meaning of 'treason'?
 
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 11 12:15PM -0500


>> Do you understand the meaning of 'treason'?
 
> Making Hillary lose although it was her turn?
 
LOL .... Apparently. :)
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 11 12:19PM -0500

> On 7/11/2017 11:24 AM, TT wrote:
 
> This is collusion with Russians. There isn't going to be better evidence
> unless someone has recorded their conversations.
 
Well, you better hope someone recorded their conversations, LOL.
 
Anyway, would you think it a big deal if the Trump campaign had
coordinated with a USA-based conservative activist group that hacked
Hillary's e-mails?
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 11 02:24PM -0500

On 7/11/2017 1:01 PM, TT wrote:
>> coordinated with a USA-based conservative activist group that hacked
>> Hillary's e-mails?
 
> It's not entirely same, although still criminal.
 
No, be specific. Would you think it a big deal? And when talking about
criminality, remember, there's no evidence anyone near Trump knew that
the "dirt" the Russians had on Hillary came from a hacking source.
 
But tell me about both situations: A USA conservative group hacks
Hillary's emails, tells Trump that they have dirt on Hillary, but
doesn't say how they got it.
 
Big deal if Trump says "well OK, let's make a plan to release this
information"?
 
Or what if Trump knew the dirt came from illegal hacking- big deal?
 
 
 
 
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heyguys00@gmail.com: Jul 11 12:44PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 3:24:41 PM UTC-4, StephenJ wrote:
 
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It's illegal to facilitate foreign involvement in an US election or receive anything of value (doesn't have to be money). It's clear from his emails Jr sought to violate election law (receive information from Russia). Considering this meeting was discovered by the NYT, what do you think the FBI/CIA and other intelligence agencies have on them all? That fact that Meuller is now hiring big gun prosecutors and not investigators should terrify them all.
calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 11 01:04PM -0700

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> It's illegal to facilitate foreign involvement in an US election or receive anything of value (doesn't have to be money). It's clear from his emails Jr sought to violate election law (receive information from Russia). Considering this meeting was discovered by the NYT, what do you think the FBI/CIA and other intelligence agencies have on them all? That fact that Meuller is now hiring big gun prosecutors and not investigators should terrify them all.
 
 
Who is Meuller?
And what is illegal about hoping to receive information?
 
Hey, I hope Trump goes down for this and Pence takes over. But Muller has to find more. Hopefully he does!
 
 
Max
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 11 12:54PM -0700

> Yes, he'd do better at USO than he did at Wimbledon. But both Murray &
Djoker are getting back on track and they will be there along with Fed
to challenge Rafa since they are all better than him on HC. So he won't
to *much* better. Maybe lose in the QF / SF.
 
I doubt it
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jul 11 11:57AM -0700

She sure plays like him
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 11 02:31PM -0500

>On 7/11/2017 1:57 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> She sure plays like him
 
You never saw Mecir play, so it's not surprising you'd say this. Rybar
has finesse in her game but also has some big tools, a big first serve
and forehand.
 
Mecir had no weapons, he was a crafty finesse player only who choked vs
Lendl in big matches.
 
 
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Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jul 11 12:41PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 12:31:48 PM UTC-7, StephenJ wrote:
 
 
> Mecir had no weapons<
 
 
Mmm.
"Javier González" <jagonzal@gmail.com>: Jul 11 12:19PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:38:34 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > Nadal on hard/grass > Sampras on clay
 
> Sampras is much better than Nadal in three slams while Nadal is superior to any other player in one slam.
 
But that's the thing, you can't claim Nadal is the least versatile all timer when Sampras' clay resume is pretty much nonexistent. Nadal has won/reached 5/12 non-clay slam finals, and 8/16 Masters. Theoretically he could do more. Sampras reached 0 clay slam finals and 1 clay masters final. Won that against Boris "0/6 on clay" Becker.
 
To the original post's claim of "most lopsided record for an all timer":
 
-> Nadal's hard/grass titles: 20 (27% of his total).
-> Sampras' clay titles: 3/64 (4% of his total).
 
(numbers via wikipedia).
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 11 12:29PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 3:19:58 PM UTC-4, Javier González wrote:
 
> -> Nadal's hard/grass titles: 20 (27% of his total).
> -> Sampras' clay titles: 3/64 (4% of his total).
 
> (numbers via wikipedia).
 
But clay is only 30% of the tour, so Sampras had far fewer opportunities to rack up clay titles. Also, the surfaces are much more homogenized now. Everyone plays similar, so far easier for Nadal to win titles outside of his comfort zone than for Sampras. I don't think your analysis factors these things in. The fact remains that Nadal's resume is very heavily padded by clay, when it isn't even the most dominant or competitive surface on tour. Can't think of any other ATG who has such a skewed distribution.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 11 12:33PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 3:19:58 PM UTC-4, Javier González wrote:
 
> -> Nadal's hard/grass titles: 20 (27% of his total).
> -> Sampras' clay titles: 3/64 (4% of his total).
 
> (numbers via wikipedia).
 
Here is a breakdown by surface I had prepared and it highlights how skewed Nadal's numbers are:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.sport.tennis/ZD2K_A7Bp6s/bNBXVLQtAgAJ;context-place=msg/rec.sport.tennis/myhWCC9sHAQ/T4UkMCTUAQAJ
 
I will see if I can run these numbers for Sampras as well.
grif <griffin_230@hotmail.com>: Jul 11 08:04PM +0100

Nadal's Spidey impression:
https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/884428889300152320
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 11 12:29PM -0500

On 7/11/2017 9:50 AM, TT wrote:
> systematically going through art films etc which I'm certain you have
> not done.
 
> Post again the list of 88 films you have not seen.
 
What's a lie? So far, you are the only one found to be wrong here: You
claimed that I hadn't gone through the 1000 list when in fact I had, as
anyone can see from a post I made on June 7th, which was in reply to a
post of yours for crissakes.
 
It really is amazing how you issue commands for me to do things when
you're the only one who has made false claims here. Astonishing.
 
But anyway, here's a copy/paste of the June 7 post, which took me about
5 seconds to find. You couldn't be bothered, you were too busy making
bogus claims:
 
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Re: (OT) Baywatch
Wed, 7 Jun 2017 08:10:43 -0500
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>
 
 
>On 6/7/2017 3:45 AM, TT wrote:
 
> Well put.
 
You misspelled "ridiculously put".
 
> I've now rated 800 titles from that list.
 
Alright, so i went through the rest of the list. Here are the ones I
have *not* seen in any format, although admittedly at least 400 of the
ones I have seen I've only seen on Netflix, cable, etc.. But since this
isn't a cinephile forum and I am interacting with movie philistines, I
admit I counted films I saw on TV, not just the theatre. Including the 5
from the top 100 I haven't seen, I think it adds up to about 903 seen.
 
If you've seen any of them, particularly in the theatre, I'd be happy to
hear your comments:
 
 
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SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 11 11:59AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:55:51 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> > You can't count out Konta/Halep yet either. With the women, you simply don't know.
 
> it not like the men where Fed has been given a cake walk draw + he's "at peak" and Nadal/Djoker/Murray are out of sorts.
 
> it would be wonderful if Coco Vanderbelt got to the final as that guy who always posted "COCO UPDATE" could post again!
 
Well, Coco stunk up the joint today, only two days ago she was looking in great form. Guess there is a reason she has not performed better at the slams. Rybarikova is a tricky opponent though, could give Muguruza some trouble.
 
Is it just me or does Coco look like Trump's secret lovechild? LOL.
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jul 11 11:39AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:40:39 AM UTC-7, soccerfan777 wrote:
> No. Halep's chest is out of proportion. I sorta like her face. She is awkward like ET as Gracchus says.
 
> I am a Graf/Sharapova sorta guy.
 
IMO, Graf and Sharapova don't belong in the same group. :))
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 11 11:52AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 2:39:08 PM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:
> > No. Halep's chest is out of proportion. I sorta like her face. She is awkward like ET as Gracchus says.
 
> > I am a Graf/Sharapova sorta guy.
 
> IMO, Graf and Sharapova don't belong in the same group. :))
 
Max is taking out his Graf scrapbook as we speak :)
lviewchiguy@gmail.com: Jul 11 09:35AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:20:42 AM UTC-5, ahonkan wrote:
> Rafa will skip grass completely from now on.
 
> Wait, isn't that what he has been doing all this time? Play on clay
> and take off the second half citing 'injuries'?
 
It isn't the same because Federer has Wimbledon right around the corner after the French. Rafa has plenty of time off to rest after Wimbledon.
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