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Saturday, July 8, 2017

SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 08 02:48PM -0700

On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 10:09:08 AM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
> > with Pat Cash as her new coach..can anyone besides Venus/Muguruza/Ostapenko stop her?
 
> Are you kidding? There are about 12 women who could win this tournament--Venus, Muguruza, Kerber, Ostapenko, Azarenka, Halep, Vandeweghe, Konta, etc.
 
> It all depends which way the wind blows.
 
I agree with you (though I don't think I would include Halep). But based on the admittedly few women's matches I saw, Vandeweghe looked the most dangerous, form-wise.
Azarenka I am not sure if she is ready to win a slam yet, but she seems to be getting there.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:47PM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 2:30:44 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> A five-setter coming?
 
Fognini too casual. Not going to work.
wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk: Jul 08 04:33PM -0500

In article <2f040dcf-5ea6-4b98-9b47-9be97f2ac7d0@googlegroups.com>,
> *Date:* Fri, 7 Jul 2017 21:00:15 -0700 (PDT)
 
> Almost had a 5 setter. Fognini blew 5 set points in 4th set in 3
> different games ____
 
The last one by stopping play to challenge the call and then discovering
he had no challenges left.
 
wg
wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk: Jul 08 04:33PM -0500

In article <7fee077d-4237-4c0d-a60d-86676f2a41af@googlegroups.com>,
> etc? Maybe
> they should colour the racquet frames white too?
> They are crazy!
 
Actuallly, I believe designs have often been submitted ot Wimbledon in the
past for checking. Particularly shoes, since the soles required for grass
court play are different.
 
I really dislike the all-white rule. It makes it very hard to tell a lot
of the players apart.
 
wg
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 08 11:59AM -0700

No respite for Fed from now on. Djokovic seems to be finding his form. Dimitrov is playing very well too, and Raonic is always dangerous with that serve. But if anyone can do it, it's Roger.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:14PM -0700

> No respite for Fed from now on. Djokovic seems to be finding his form. Dimitrov is playing very well too, and Raonic is always dangerous with that serve. But if anyone can do it, it's Roger.
 
 
Nadal got it easy
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:32PM -0700

I would rather see a battle tested Fed in the final, if he gets that far.
 
Nadal does have a roadblock in Cilic. Murray he might have an easier time with.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:34PM -0700

On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 2:42:03 PM UTC-4, SliceAndDice wrote:
> Vintage grasscourt stuff. Mischa forcing Roger to raise his level and Roger responding beautifully. Very enjoyable match so far.
 
Federer perhaps needs to improve his first serve efficacy.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:47PM -0700

Another player who caught my attention was Sam Querrey. He has the game to do well here, and does not seem to be intimidated by the big 4. That said, he could just as easily lose in the next round to Kandy.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:47PM -0700

Agreed.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:48PM -0700

On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 3:47:14 PM UTC-4, SliceAndDice wrote:
> Another player who caught my attention was Sam Querrey. He has the game to do well here, and does not seem to be intimidated by the big 4. That said, he could just as easily lose in the next round to Kandy.
 
Whose quarter is he in? I like Querrey.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:49PM -0700

Murray's.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Jul 08 01:06PM -0700

On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 3:49:18 PM UTC-4, SliceAndDice wrote:
> Murray's.
 
I see. Go Querrey :)
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 08 02:13PM -0700

Op zaterdag 8 juli 2017 20:47:22 UTC+2 schreef PeteWasLucky:
> Federer has been nervous this match and the previous one.
> He admitted it after last match.
 
> Reminds me with FO 2009.
 
His backhand has looked shaky since his return up until the 2nd set today, from when he seemed to find a bit better rhythm and unleashed some beauties. Lots of easy misses up until that point though. I guess that's the danger of not playing for a couple of months. The great timing is gone... I suppose that would have made him nervous.
Patrick Kehoe <pkehoe@telus.net>: Jul 08 02:10PM -0700

Go Gabby!
 
:)
 
P
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:37PM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 1:08:50 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
 
> Watched some of Rafa's match (playing well)... grass is still the
> fastest slam surface and Wimbledon this year looks perfectly normal
> speed to me.
 
He plays well when the other guy has no good serve combined with variety. He is still suspect against good grass court players.
Patrick Kehoe <pkehoe@telus.net>: Jul 08 01:59PM -0700

On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 3:10:23 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> > Gilles Muller beat Rafa once, but wasn't that 10+ years ago... not sure, I cannot remember the circumstances but I suspect Rafa was a teenager when it happened... someone should look it up... Regardless, Muller almost NEVER seems to come up with the goods against a top 5 guy at/in a major. I can't recall him ever upsetting a top 4 or 5 guy at Wimbledon. Can you Courty? He just sort of self-destructs, even when he's in solid playing form, he suddenly becomes this guy blasting the ball all over the place when it really matters. Like losing the mental plot becomes his go to psyche out on court under the pressure of a major.
 
> > I'd have to see it to believe it: him beating Rafa.
 
> Unless we're talking about them playing in a parallel universe, I don't believe Muller will beat Nadal.
 
I agree. Rafa in strait sets or 4 if Muller somehow wins a tie breaker.
 
At the majors, Muller right up there with the weakest returners among players with 'name recognition' on the ATP tour.
 
P
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jul 08 07:35AM -0700

On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 6:50:50 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> exciting story instead of same old with a new annoying teen 'star'...
 
> I've lost count on these moneygrabbing superhero reboots and certainly
> don't want to encourage Hollywood by adding to ticket revenue.
 
Well-said. First they were rebooting everything and now they're rebooting reboots. I saw the first cluster of Raimi Spiderman films and then the first one with Garfield. All had some good aspects, but IMO none yet have fully done justice to the comic (though still much better than the Hulk and Fantastic Four attempts).
 
And from the previews, this new kid really does seem annoying. I'd have to root for the Vulture.
 
Speaking of Marvel stuff, Stan Lee's wife just died. Sad. First reports said she was 93, now they're saying 95.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jul 08 10:47PM +0300

Gracchus kirjoitti 8.7.2017 klo 17:35:
 
> Well-said. First they were rebooting everything and now they're rebooting reboots. I saw the first cluster of Raimi Spiderman films and then the first one with Garfield. All had some good aspects, but IMO none yet have fully done justice to the comic (though still much better than the Hulk and Fantastic Four attempts).
 
> And from the previews, this new kid really does seem annoying. I'd have to root for the Vulture.
 
> Speaking of Marvel stuff, Stan Lee's wife just died. Sad. First reports said she was 93, now they're saying 95.
 
Spider Man has already found its way to some important lists...
http://www.listchallenges.com/a-teen-girl-must-see-movie-list/checklist/3
 
:)
 
Anyways, I see that latest Alien is already out in HD...
http://openloadmovies.net/movies/alien-covenant-2017/
 
So going to watch that now.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:46PM -0700

On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 11:27:49 AM UTC-4, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
> Back from the dead, Gulbis beats Del Potro is straight sets.
 
Useless player. Poor FH.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:35PM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 1:22:08 PM UTC-4, ahonkan wrote:
> the second best. I have seen it fail a few times.
> Andy has probably the worst dropshot among the big four. I have mostly
> seen it fail badly. Plus, he generally tends to use it at a wrong time.
 
He only comes in to the net when he is sure he has a good chance.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:37PM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 8:47:26 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > Have to disagree about Federer. He has a decent drop shot, but Nadal has the best drop shot by far. Federer sometimes hits sublime drops, but not as consistently high quality as Nadal.
 
> Nadal doesn't dropshop rallying from the baseline.
 
Correct.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:39PM -0700

On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:16:18 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
> & can win in many different ways from all sorts of positions. Against
> Rafa/Djoker/Murray he knows a lapse could be fatal, so tightens up
> dramatically.
 
 
Federer was fluid (read: dynamite) against Nadal for 20 minutes in the fifth set at AO 2017?
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Jul 08 12:33PM -0700

On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 11:28:27 AM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
 
> > > Dudi doesn't sound like Mossad material.
 
> > And you don't sound like Delta Force material, kid.
 
> How could I be? I'm probably older than you are.
 
You probably are. Max is Sept 21 1973, according to him in a post a while back.
"pepito" <pepito@gmail.com>: Jul 09 02:52AM +0800

If McCain is the president of US, he would would be careful not to behave
like a war monger but spend his time to craft his speech of words carefully
and express his thought more measuredly.
 
 
 
 
"lo yeeOn" wrote in message news:ojpsbp$1qo$1@reader2.panix.com...
 
Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren joins push for US escalation in
Afghanistan By Bill Van Auken 6 July 2017
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/07/06/afgh-j06.html
 
Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, a self-styled "progressive"
Democrat, joined with Senate Armed Services Committee chairman John
McCain and his right-wing pro-war ally Senator Lindsey Graham at a
July 4 press conference in Kabul calling for the Trump administration
to put forward a renewed war strategy for Afghanistan.
 
The bipartisan appeal, which was also joined by Democratic Senator
Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island, came in anticipation of a more
than 50 percent increase in US troop levels and the unveiling of more
aggressive rules of engagement in the 16-year-old war.
 
McCain issued a bellicose demand for more a decisive US military
intervention in the impoverished and war-ravaged south Asian nation,
declaring, "None of us would say that we are on a course to success
here in Afghanistan."
 
"That needs to change, and quickly," he said. "The strongest nation on
Earth should be able to win this conflict."
 
McCain advanced a strategy of military escalation aimed at bleeding
the Taliban insurgency in order to force it to negotiate with the
US-backed puppet government in Kabul. The Taliban "is not going to
negotiate unless they are losing," the Republican senator explained.
"So we need to win and have the advantage on the battlefield and then
enter into a serious negotiation to resolve this conflict."
 
Warren followed up on these remarks by declaring, "We need a strategy
in the United States that defines our role in Afghanistan, defines our
objective, and explains how we can get from here to there."
 
In an interview with the Boston Globe, Warren expanded on her remarks,
stating, "A solution needs to have a military angle, but also an
economic and diplomatic plan. It needs to involve domestic political
reconciliation, and it needs to be regional in nature."
 
The Massachusetts senator posted online a number of photographs of
herself with military officers and troops in Afghanistan.
 
 
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