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Monday, July 17, 2017

xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: Jul 17 08:05AM -0700

Note that Jennifer Rubin is a conservative.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/07/14/the-gops-moral-rot-is-the-problem-not-donald-trump-jr/
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: Jul 17 02:55AM -0700

Here I sit again.
 
5:40 departure. Delayed until at least 6
 
Waiting for maintenance log.
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: Jul 17 06:09AM -0700

> Here I sit again.
 
> 5:40 departure. Delayed until at least 6
 
> Waiting for maintenance log.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8LaT5Iiwo4
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jul 17 01:37PM

On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 02:55:39 -0700 (PDT), "the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com"
 
>Here I sit again.
 
>5:40 departure. Delayed until at least 6
 
>Waiting for maintenance log.
 
It's more fun when you drive and don't need a watch. The only states I
have been to when not driving are AK, AZ, WY, UT, NY, NJ and DE.
 
Hugh
 
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xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: Jul 17 07:23AM -0700

> Here I sit again.
 
> 5:40 departure. Delayed until at least 6
 
> Waiting for maintenance log.
 
I assume you got out. I just dropped off my gf at RDU for a business trip.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jul 17 11:41AM

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 09:54:49 -0700 (PDT), "the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com"
 
>I've managed entire organizations working from home.
 
>I prefer it that way.
 
I would not be comfortable with a team concept not working at the same
location. My group had three major functions and each was a team
effort - and the three teams had to coordinate. Work flowed from team
to team and out the door.
 
How do you handle annual employee reviews? How do you prevent the mice
from playing when the cat is away?
 
>My office has all the comforts of home or a hotel or the admirals club or the car or the pool or the beach. I spend >50% of my time on the phone. I can do that anywhere.
 
I still do almost everything by the watch - I like regimentation.
 
Hugh
 
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irishranger317@gmail.com: Jul 17 05:08AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 9:16:32 AM UTC-4, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
 
> >Irish Mike
 
> That doesn't work when your job is managing people.
 
> Hugh
 
Depends on where the people are located and the kind of work they do.
I managed between 240 - 300 people scattered over six states. I had offices in two cities and
one at home. Many of our meetings were in airports and customer locations all over the US and Canada.
 
As for personal work space preference, mine was a home office followed by
a corporate office with a window and a door. Next was a cubicle and dead last
was open space.
 
Irish Mike
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: Jul 17 06:07AM -0700

On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 8:25:45 PM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
> > time. I think that's the way it should be for non-manager types. IOW I
> > walked in those shoes.
 
> I prefer my office. Door is open if you need to come in. But I often have conference calls with vendors, customers, or international collaborators. Don't think I want to be taking those calls from the open environment.
 
Open environments usually have phone rooms for that type of thing.
JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: Jul 17 06:30AM -0700

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:07:21 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
> > > walked in those shoes.
 
> > I prefer my office. Door is open if you need to come in. But I often have conference calls with vendors, customers, or international collaborators. Don't think I want to be taking those calls from the open environment.
 
> Open environments usually have phone rooms for that type of thing.
 
I think there'd need to be a lot of phone rooms then, at least where I work. Seem to be a lot of simultaneous conference calls about different things. And yes, we have conference rooms too but we're often SOL trying to schedule them and have to keep selecting the next one or end up just cramming into an office.
 
And when were supposedly getting a new R&D center, the architects indeed planned for this open office concept. The squawks from the scientists in the planning meetings were quite loud - usually over this very topic.
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: Jul 17 07:22AM -0700

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:30:28 AM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
 
> > Open environments usually have phone rooms for that type of thing.
 
> I think there'd need to be a lot of phone rooms then, at least where I work. Seem to be a lot of simultaneous conference calls about different things. And yes, we have conference rooms too but we're often SOL trying to schedule them and have to keep selecting the next one or end up just cramming into an office.
 
> And when were supposedly getting a new R&D center, the architects indeed planned for this open office concept. The squawks from the scientists in the planning meetings were quite loud - usually over this very topic.
 
Open workspaces suck. Everyone knows that except the corporate real estate decision makers.
 
I will say though that I spent two weeks in an open landscape the size of a football field at a customer site and it was very productive. But the catch was that it was in Japan and since I don't speak or understand Japanese all the hub-bub around me was basically white noise.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jul 17 12:36PM

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:01:11 -0700 (PDT), michael anderson
 
>Absolutely. If you're anxious or tired or down, you still get your ass to work.
 
I now know tired. I don't know down unless it's on a duck.
 
In my mind PTSD was invented for weak people and they jumped on the
bandwagon. Most, not all, people from my era worked out their
problems. Liberals emerged about the time of Nam to increase the
number of weak people.
 
>I think(no i know) things have tilted way too much in the direction of the worker in this country. Mandatory overtime and all these other protections have just made things ridiculous....
 
That's not so cut and dried. Employer and employee loyalty has
disappeared. Liberal policies caused frustrated businesseses and
employees to react in a manner that distresses both.
 
That's not to say that employees before my time didn't get the short
end of the stick, but libs overcompensated with their stupids.
 
I believed my employer owned me for a minimum of 8 hours per work day
for 35 years and my loyalty for life. And I suspect I'm the happiest
person on rsfc.
 
Hugh
 
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Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jul 17 01:22PM

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 10:06:54 -0400, GrtArtiste <nineorbs@yahoo.com>
wrote:
 
>although I have used "doctor appointment" and "funeral for a friend"
>without serious repercussions. However, the bosses usually expect me to
>make up the hours that I miss and get bitchy if I don't.
 
It's different when you are responsible for a job and don't have to
punch a time clock. The personal time I took during working hours was
to officiate games for local schools - and that was with the company
blessing.
 
I remember asking for real personal time once and I was told (1) not
to ask (2) just let my secretary know where I would be.
 
>cut. We never did have paid vacation or holidays. Now we get 20 hours
>PTO every 6 months (it used to be 30). >They also took away a company-funded
>legacy pension plan
 
After 12-20 years we had 60 days sick time per year and 5 weeks
vacation - and the company made contributions to our IRAs. At my
retirement I was guaranteed 10% interest for 10 years on IRA
rollovers. People retiring 2 years earlier got 17%. Anything less than
that is now called "progressive" by liberals.
 
Hugh
 
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xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: Jul 17 06:31AM -0700

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:22:31 AM UTC-4, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
 
> retirement I was guaranteed 10% interest for 10 years on IRA
> rollovers. People retiring 2 years earlier got 17%. Anything less than
> that is now called "progressive" by liberals.
 
My employer eliminated the idea of a specific number of sick days. The official policy is "you're professional, use what you need". As a result, sick days taken went down simply because people didn't reach the end of the year with some number of unused sick days and feel like they should or need to take them.
JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: Jul 17 06:35AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 11:01:15 AM UTC-4, michael anderson wrote:
> > true that many people work through hard times and times of no sleep,
> > and have little sympathy with people "tapping out" in a similar situation.
 
> Absolutely. If you're anxious or tired or down, you still get your ass to work.
 
You know how it's been shown that drowsy driving is actually worse than drunk driving? And you don't want people to come into work drunk? Yeah, you don't want them there fatigued/drowsy either.
JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: Jul 17 06:37AM -0700


> > "I had experienced several nights of insomnia and was poorly rested and also having lots of suicidal thoughts, which make it difficult to accomplish much at work," she said.
 
> > Seems like a valid reason to take a few days off.
 
> Seems like a valid reason to give her a mandatory referral to a mental health professional.
 
How do you know she wasn't?
JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: Jul 17 06:38AM -0700

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:31:04 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
> > rollovers. People retiring 2 years earlier got 17%. Anything less than
> > that is now called "progressive" by liberals.
 
> My employer eliminated the idea of a specific number of sick days. The official policy is "you're professional, use what you need". As a result, sick days taken went down simply because people didn't reach the end of the year with some number of unused sick days and feel like they should or need to take them.
 
We seem to be headed down the road of canning sick days and just making sick + vacation days = a new total (which seems to be 5 days + your previous vacation days).
"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com>: Jul 17 09:13AM -0500


> We seem to be headed down the road of canning sick days and just
> making sick + vacation days = a new total (which seems to be 5 days +
> your previous vacation days).
 
I've worked at some tech companies while not being self-employed, and this
has been the policy at those three places since 1989.
 
--
It is not true that people stop pursuing dreams
because they grow old, they grow old because they
stop pursuing dreams. -- Gabriel Garcia Marquez
JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: Jul 17 06:33AM -0700

On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 5:22:13 PM UTC-4, Ken Olson wrote:
> On 7/15/2017 4:10 PM, Some dued wrote:
> > Critics of Hitler in 1939 were obsessed with Hitler.
 
> While critics of Obama are racists?
 
Depends what they criticize him for. Policies? Not so much. Mooching off the American people for his vacations? Yeah, pretty much.
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: Jul 17 06:10AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 11:58:31 PM UTC-4, Ken Olson wrote:
 
> > I'm surprised at how little pushback the NRA gets from members on certain positions. Until they do I don't see them changing. It seems to be working.
 
> Maybe because most of us agree with them. Or want them to be more
> aggressive.
 
A lot of the members who disagree drop their memberships. So there's an issue of self-selection going too.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jul 17 01:29PM

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 10:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Some dued
 
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I only had to read a few paragraphs to decide it is cause and effect.
 
You try to change gun ownership and you have a fight on your hands.
Cause creates effect. Call it stupid reacts to stupid if you prefer.
 
For almost 200 years neither stupid was necessary.
 
Hugh
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: Jul 17 06:11AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 9:50:32 PM UTC-4, Futbol Phan wrote:
 
> > --
> > Michael Press
 
> Pffft. Northern lights tonight. They rool.
 
Northern lights are on my bucket list. I hope I see them when I go to AK in Sept. If not I'll go to Iceland for them. Hmmm, maybe I hope I don't see them in AK :)
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jul 17 11:58AM

>which doesn't provide health insurance and making enough not
>to get a subsidy. There's another term for them: voters.
 
>But, yeah, good plan: get the GOP to purposely piss off voters.
 
The majority of them voted for Hillary last time and you lost. You
stupids need a better plan.
 
Worthless socialists like you will ultimately win because of numbers.
Speaking of numbers, what's the one for the Cayman Islands?
 
I'm just looking for ways to make the UnACA implode faster.
 
Hugh
 
 
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Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jul 17 12:04PM

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:02:45 -0700 (PDT), tim.vanwagonerspam@gmail.com
wrote:
 
>And hasten single payer.
 
>The best thing we can do to stave that off is stabilizing the insurance markets, not destabilizing them.
 
Making people earn what they get was stable until liberals became
stable - you know, full of horse shit.
 
It's about time for a GoP darkstar to emerge.
 
Hugh
 
 
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irishranger317@gmail.com: Jul 16 09:32PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 8:38:39 AM UTC-4, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
 
> >Irish Mike
 
> That's an unusual amout of courtesy to be shown a yankee.
 
> Hugh
 
Well modesty prevented me from pointing out that I am an
extraordinarily charming and likable Yankee. Apparently it stems
from my Irish heritage and upbringing.
 
Irish Mike
 
It's no sin not to be Irish,
just a terrible, terrible shame.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jul 17 11:28AM

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:32:07 -0700 (PDT), irishranger317@gmail.com
wrote:
 
>extraordinarily charming and likable Yankee. Apparently it stems
>from my Irish heritage and upbringing.
 
>Irish Mike
 
...and your bagger was not a carpet.
 
Hugh
 
 
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