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Friday, June 9, 2017

Yama <yama212NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk>: Jun 10 01:56AM +0300

9.6.2017, 21:39, TT kirjoitti:
>> Stan has never lost in a Slam final to Nadal, in fact he has never
>> lost a Slam final... :)
 
> About time then.
 
'Statistical loss' is a superstition. Best to bet on existing trend.
grif <griffin_230@hotmail.com>: Jun 10 12:38AM +0100

On 09/06/2017 19:26, Yama wrote:
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAw-7sHXkAAeNS0.jpg
 
> Hoho!
> So...Federer is the Invisible Woman?
 
Yeah, being compared with the Invisible Woman is slightly disparaging. He's more like Wonder Woman and engenders a similar kind of fervour amongst his ardent admirers :p
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/08/weep-watching-wonder-woman-you-werent-alone
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jun 09 03:33PM -0700

On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 1:26:34 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> Also Wawrinka defeated peak djokovic, Nadal, Federer in slams.
 
> I want to Stanimal pushing Rafa, I was to see Wawrinka taking a set, and I hope Rafa doesn't win in str8 sets.
 
> I want to see a good match.
 
Yes, I agree. You don't want to discount Wawrinka in a slam F.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jun 09 03:47PM -0700

On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 4:22:32 PM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:
 
> > Betfair thinks Rafa to win with 83% probability.
 
> > I say 75%. For Stan. Rafa is doomed.
 
> That is the problem with Wawrinka. He's unpredictable, which makes it difficult even for his opponents. He could just as well lose as he could blast through this Nadal.
 
Stan not doing well at the non-slam events (by design or inadvertently) has started serving him very well at the slams. He is forever flying under the radar , is never thought of as a title favorite until, boom, he makes it to the business end of a slam and KOs a top player. I do not know if players underestimate him. I like to think they don't, but I don't think they view him in the same echelon as Fed, Nadal, Djoker and Murray.
Yama <yama212NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk>: Jun 10 02:10AM +0300

9.6.2017, 23:16, TT kirjoitti:
>> There is a good chance you might have to eat crow from Waleed's hands. :)
 
> Betfair thinks Rafa to win with 83% probability.
 
> I say 75%. For Stan. Rafa is doomed.
 
Is that a Jaros playbook you have been reading recently...?
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 09 07:38PM -0400

On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 10:32:09 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
 
>Stop dreaming. Stan isn't going to beat Nadal at the FO when Nadal is in decent form.
 
he beat an incredibly motivated and in form djokovic. a zoned stan
could win no doubt.
 
bob
DavidW <no@email.provided>: Jun 10 08:21AM +1000

On 09-Jun-17 11:54 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> We need to listen.
 
Not yet, though. Trump says he's willing to give his version under oath.
Wait till then, and then wait for the tapes to leak.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 09 03:26PM -0700

> Not yet, though. Trump says he's willing to give his version under oath.
Wait till then, and then wait for the tapes to leak.
 
He already gave his story, he wants to change it?
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 09 04:11PM -0700

On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 10:23:31 PM UTC+2, TT wrote:
> > If anyone can prove he lied then this would be a good start.
 
> There's no motive for Comey to invent stuff and then write memos. Comey
> lying about this makes zero sense. Trump lying makes all the sense.
 
 
No motive?
The orange clown fired him, you idiot.
 
 
Max
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 10 01:14AM +0200

>> lying about this makes zero sense. Trump lying makes all the sense.
 
> No motive?
> The orange clown fired him, you idiot.
 
 
:)
 
 
TT is not focused, he's probably halfway with the movie.
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TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 10 02:36AM +0300


> No motive?
> The orange clown fired him, you idiot.
 
> Max
 
Comey met Trump and wrote the memos weeks/months before he was fired,
stupid.
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 09 04:37PM -0700

On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 1:36:18 AM UTC+2, TT wrote:
 
> > Max
 
> Comey met Trump and wrote the memos weeks/months before he was fired,
> stupid.
 
 
Who says this?
 
 
Max
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 09 04:03PM -0700

> 2007: 51
> 2006: 69
> 2005: 61
 
Thiem was probably too tired today, he puts so much effort into his shots this always happens.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 09 04:04PM -0700


> > He's one loss away from complete debacle.
 
> > --
 
> If he wins in straights you'll agree he's at peak?
 
he not peak!
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 09 07:35PM -0400

On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 11:24:26 -0700 (PDT), Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>
wrote:
 
>Makes Final without loss of even a set.
 
> shell of
 
 
hehehe. :-)
 
i believe stan has an excellent chance to beat him though.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 09 07:34PM -0400

On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 12:47:07 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
 
>> Never. But she got leading actress Oscar here for doing exactly same
>> thing she does in every film. Unfathomable.
 
>Quite true. She's an awful actress. Another case of Hollywood nepotism where producer-director father and actress mother drop their daughter into the industry without ever having to learn her so-called craft. Paltrow walks through every film with the same insipid smile, and that's the extent of her abilities. She's only inoffensive in the "Iron Man" films because they require nothing of her.
 
gwyneth paltrow has a huge cult following in the gay community. hence
her ability to get big movie roles, IMO.
 
bob
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 09 02:51PM -0700

On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 1:30:03 PM UTC-7, *skriptis wrote:
> >> those black and white concepts.
 
> > Life isn't a cabaret at all. It's a film noir cityscape.
 
> If it is a film, you definitely qualify for the villain role
 
That's appropriate. Nearly everyone in film noir is morally compromised. The "good guys" are usually minor characters that get killed off early.
 
 
> Of course president and leadership would think in different terms,
> protecting the country and their imperial interests etc.
 
> But to have civilian prone to warmongering to that extent, terrible.
 
I'm on the West Coast. The North Korean bastards will be able to reach me long before they can get the politicians in D.C. So "civilian" or not, the threat has personal relevance. Not only that, I think it's worth the risk even though I may end up getting vaporized by their kamikaze retaliation. So you see, the greater good concerns me above all else. :)
 
> supporters, who are considered trash, are amongst most sensible,
> rational and peace loving people in the USA.

> And liberals are eager to start wars and have people killed.
 
Aside from your statement being ridiculous at face value, how do you conveniently overlook that two RST Trump supporters (and your comrades-in-arms) made posts that share my position on this?
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 10 01:01AM +0200

>> rational and peace loving people in the USA.
 
>> And liberals are eager to start wars and have people killed.
 
> Aside from your statement being ridiculous at face value, how do you conveniently overlook that two RST Trump supporters (and your comrades-in-arms) made posts that share my position on this?
 
 
It's a difficult topic.
Concern is a legit thing.
And it's your government's job.
 
 
But this is rst and common folks discussion. The only point I was
making was isis nutjobs comparison that Stephen made and that's
completely, imo, ridiculous, and in a broader sense serves as
justification for your own warmongering. Like, they're crazy so
we should bomb them.
It's a dehumanization thing that Nazis did with Russians,
justifying their aggression that way.
 
You really think north Koreans are even slightly irrational? That
they'd just wake up one day and launch something?
So you believe that?
 
Don't go into security, geostrategic and other issues, whether
they should be allowed to have such weapon etc. That's for your
government to deal with. Simply personally, do you think Kim and
his regime would ever ever attack first and for no
reason?
 
Mine is no, but if your answer is yes, ask yourself these questions.
 
Why aren't Indians, Russians, Chinese, or even Europeans concerned
with North Korean threat the same why you are?
 
And two, why do you think their propaganda glorifying retaliation
and showing U.S. cities in flames is more disgusting/threatening
than your officials talking publicly about "military" solution?
I'd call that equally disturbing.
 
Maybe their posture has something to do with your posture, ever
since GWB declared them to be evil country, together with Iraq,
Iran etc. So it's been 15 years that they're on a shot list.

 
We know how some of these countries fared, facing total
destruction by the neocons, like Libya. Iraq, Syria etc.

 
And you're surprised that they're so belligerent when in fact
they're simply defensive. If I was Kim I'd pursue the same course
equally. It's the only logical thing.
 
 
Maybe if Trump destroys neocons completely and America guarantees
Koreans their sovereignty and abides by non regime change policy,
they'd be willing to cease their activities. No games with China
will do the trick, as it's a security issue. For them, and
they're simply making you aware of the same threats they've been
facing.
 
Either give them safety, or you'll have to attack them. But it is
you who are bad guys then. Not them.
 
 
I'm not being neither soft, nor pro korean, but these guy don't
even seem to be anti-American, culturally and so, remember them
welcoming Rodman etc.
 
Very unlikely that they're crazed motherfuckers zombie/Borg types.
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 09 04:07PM -0700

On Friday, 9 June 2017 20:00:57 UTC+1, DavidW wrote:
> otherwise Guypers will either win outright or tie with Thomas R.
> Kettler, depending on the men's result.
 
> http://home.pacific.net.au/~davidw/tennis/contest/rst_2017sp_RG.html
 
wow! thanks for the stats!
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 09 07:27PM -0400

>otherwise Guypers will either win outright or tie with Thomas R.
>Kettler, depending on the men's result.
 
>http://home.pacific.net.au/~davidw/tennis/contest/rst_2017sp_RG.html
 
hasn't guypers won a bunch of them lately?
 
bob
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 09 04:09PM -0700

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/angela-merkel-s-anti-trump-alliance-crumbling-ahead-of-g-20-a-1151439.html
 
 
We have to give the orange clown some credit here.
Proof that lying fascists can do good now and then.
 
 
Max
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 09 07:24PM -0400


>http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/angela-merkel-s-anti-trump-alliance-crumbling-ahead-of-g-20-a-1151439.html
 
>We have to give the orange clown some credit here.
 
you've given him a lot of "credit" lately.
 
>Proof that lying fascists can do good now and then.
>Max
 
bob
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 09 04:05PM -0700

On Friday, 9 June 2017 19:54:38 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
 
> > He lacks the tennis smarts, also that backhand is a liability.
 
> Yes. And like Icey says, he has to work so much he's knackered in the
> deciders. I think he was out of sorts in the second already.
 
that's the whole problem with him, he fun and entertaining to watch, but it sounds like exactly the same as usual, he was tired.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jun 09 04:19PM -0700

On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 7:05:41 PM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> > Yes. And like Icey says, he has to work so much he's knackered in the
> > deciders. I think he was out of sorts in the second already.
 
> that's the whole problem with him, he fun and entertaining to watch, but it sounds like exactly the same as usual, he was tired.
 
Tired how? He barely broke a sweat this tournament.
Manuel aka Xax <xamigax@gmail.com>: Jun 09 02:52PM -0700

Le vendredi 9 juin 2017 17:52:31 UTC+2, Whisper a écrit :
 
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> http://www.avg.com
 
I can't think of a better candidate right now, yet I must confess that my mind hasn't been on tennis for some times.
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