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Sunday, June 18, 2017

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 18 09:35AM -0700

> Lu-Mischa Zverev-Pouille (Stuttgart winner)-Nishikori/Karlovic
 
Hope he has his game face on right from the beginning.
 
Seriously we assume certain stuff like he has to win Halle to win Wimbledon but it's never the case, he needs few matches before W and this Halle is best of three sets which can work against him.
 
But I'd like to see him winning it :)
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jun 18 09:39AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 12:35:46 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> Hope he has his game face on right from the beginning.
 
> Seriously we assume certain stuff like he has to win Halle to win Wimbledon but it's never the case, he needs few matches before W and this Halle is best of three sets which can work against him.
 
> But I'd like to see him winning it :)
 
No, I did not assume that. I just want him to get some match play and find his Jan-April backhand. He will need it at Wimbledon.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jun 18 09:40AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 12:39:44 PM UTC-4, SliceAndDice wrote:
 
> > Seriously we assume certain stuff like he has to win Halle to win Wimbledon but it's never the case, he needs few matches before W and this Halle is best of three sets which can work against him.
 
> > But I'd like to see him winning it :)
 
> No, I did not assume that. I just want him to get some match play and find his Jan-April backhand. He will need it at Wimbledon.
 
And if he finds his backhand, he is winning Halle, which is a nice bonus :)
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Jun 18 09:42AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 12:39:44 PM UTC-4, SliceAndDice wrote:
 
> > Seriously we assume certain stuff like he has to win Halle to win Wimbledon but it's never the case, he needs few matches before W and this Halle is best of three sets which can work against him.
 
> > But I'd like to see him winning it :)
 
> No, I did not assume that. I just want him to get some match play and find his Jan-April backhand. He will need it at Wimbledon.
 
If Fed plays like AO17, will beat Rafa in 3!
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 08:32AM -0700

I am looking for a laptop that's at least as small as my old Powerbook G4 12", which is under 11" wide.
Needs to have a dvd player, and I want to use a non- Windows, non-Mac OS, probably a form of
Ubuntu. Looking for a sturdy, non-disposable unit, with a nice screen.
Suggestions welcome. Thx.
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 18 08:40AM -0700

Go to Bestbuy. Only a hardwire IT guy can guide you right. And there are not many here. I am definitely not the right person.
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Jun 18 08:50AM -0700

https://itsfoss.com/dell-xps-13-ubuntu-review/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dell_xps_13_ubuntu_edition_review_and_update_on_newsletter_frequency&utm_term=2017-06-17
 
On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 11:33:01 AM UTC-4, Carey wrote:
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 08:50AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 8:40:06 AM UTC-7, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Go to Bestbuy. Only a hardwire IT guy can guide you right. And there are not many here. I am definitely not the right person.
 
 
Raja, thanks for the advice, but going into a place like that is my idea of Hell on Earth.
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 08:55AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 8:50:01 AM UTC-7, Guypers wrote:
> > Needs to have a dvd player, and I want to use a non- Windows, non-Mac OS, probably a form of
> > Ubuntu. Looking for a sturdy, non-disposable unit, with a nice screen.
> > Suggestions welcome. Thx.
 
 
Guypers, thanks for that link. Too big for me. I bought a Macbook recently of the same size recently
and hate it. I'd continue to use the PB 12 if I could. (Non-smartphone owning Neo-luddite here)
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 18 09:28AM -0700

> I am looking for a laptop that's at least as small as my old Powerbook G4 12", which is under 11" wide.
Needs to have a dvd player, and I want to use a non- Windows, non-Mac OS, probably a form of
Ubuntu. Looking for a sturdy, non-disposable unit, with a nice screen.
Suggestions welcome. Thx.
 
You can get a Windows system then virtualize the O/S you want or even install it and make it dual boot.
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 09:37AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 9:28:38 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Ubuntu. Looking for a sturdy, non-disposable unit, with a nice screen.
> Suggestions welcome. Thx.
 
> You can get a Windows system then virtualize the O/S you want or even install it and make it dual boot.
 
 
Unless there is a good reason for it, I'd much prefer to have no Micro$oft or Apple stuff on it, at all.
MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net>: Jun 18 08:32AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 5:04:17 PM UTC+3, John Liang wrote:
The only people who seemed to accept this idea of Nadal been BOAT in RST seemed to be coming from whisperbob combo and Strip.
 
> > bob
 
This ever-going boat issue is r.s.t version of "my dad would beat your dad" - it is just impossible to measure objectively.
 
.mikko
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 08:37AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 8:32:42 AM UTC-7, MBDunc wrote:
 
> > > bob
 
> This ever-going boat issue is r.s.t version of "my dad would beat your dad" - it is just impossible to measure objectively.
 
> .mikko
 
 
Agreed. Maybe the most resoundingly stupid on-tennis topic at RST, and that's saying someting.
MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net>: Jun 18 09:13AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 6:37:07 PM UTC+3, Carey wrote:
 
> > This ever-going boat issue is r.s.t version of "my dad would beat your dad" - it is just impossible to measure objectively.
 
> > .mikko
 
> Agreed. Maybe the most resoundingly stupid on-tennis topic at RST, and that's saying someting.
 
The problem is not the concept/arguing itself but totally doubtless single-minded opinions which do not accept that <another name out of their comfort zone> might also have a valid case.
 
.mikko
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jun 18 09:23AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 9:13:12 AM UTC-7, MBDunc wrote:
 
> > Agreed. Maybe the most resoundingly stupid on-tennis topic at RST, and that's saying someting.
 
> The problem is not the concept/arguing itself but totally doubtless single-minded opinions which do not accept that <another name out of their comfort zone> might also have a valid case.
 
... which is why I came up with FOAT, favorites of all time. Little interest shown, alas. ;)
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 18 07:54AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 7:32:01 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> terror... IMDB rates it 'only' a 7,2 but it really is much better than
> that which can be seen from critics' ratings etc. I give it 8 or 9. An
> engaging film and one not to be missed, fully recommended for everyone.
 
I can't wait to see C1's reaction to this review. She hates "Winter's Bone" so much. :)
 
I think it's decent myself, though IMO not a masterpiece. There are some touches I really like that enhance its authenticity. And I agree that Lawrence was quite good in it.
 
But I should add that the subculture it depicts isn't so much like the clans in "Deliverance" or Hatfields-McCoys. IIRC it's set in Arkansas, whereas the Hatfields-McCoys were (and are) on the West Virginia-Kentucky border and though I don't remember if "Deliverance" specifies, deeper south on the East coast, like NC-SC. These regional differences are quite significant. I spent a good chunk of time in highland Virginia 20 years ago, and you never forget you're an outsider there. As an aside, I once was driving in Kentucky and got clipped by a Ryder truck making an illegal turn in Kentucky. Turned out that a Hatfield was driving it.
 
 
> solely for comedic purpose. Not much different in tone from other films
> where Robert De Niro plays the father...
> My rating is 5... 6 at best.
 
This one I didn't like at all. I absolutely hated DeNiro's performance, the psychiatrist character, and all the crap involving football, particularly since I hate the sport. Hard to believe that David O. Russell made this, same guy that did the magnificent "American Hustle." ;)
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 18 07:57AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 7:54:23 AM UTC-7, Gracchus wrote:
 
As an aside, I once was driving in Kentucky and got clipped by a Ryder truck making an illegal turn in Kentucky.
 
Redundant, I know. I haven't had my coffee yet.
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Jun 18 08:03AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 10:57:03 AM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
> On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 7:54:23 AM UTC-7, Gracchus wrote:
 
> As an aside, I once was driving in Kentucky and got clipped by a Ryder truck making an illegal turn in Kentucky.
 
> Redundant, I know. I haven't had my coffee yet.
 
Rednecks! Trump's crowd, not good?
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 18 08:15AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 8:03:37 AM UTC-7, Guypers wrote:
 
> > As an aside, I once was driving in Kentucky and got clipped by a Ryder truck making an illegal turn in Kentucky.
 
> > Redundant, I know. I haven't had my coffee yet.
 
> Rednecks! Trump's crowd, not good?
 
These clans are "mountain people" (aka hillbillies). "Rednecks" are typically lowlanders.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 18 06:21PM +0300

Gracchus kirjoitti 18.6.2017 klo 17:54:
>> that which can be seen from critics' ratings etc. I give it 8 or 9. An
>> engaging film and one not to be missed, fully recommended for everyone.
 
> I can't wait to see C1's reaction to this review. She hates "Winter's >Bone" so much. :)
 
Oh noes. I'm fucked. :)
 
What's there to hate? Ok, we know that C1's strength is is not
atmosphere films and on top of that this films is as far as it can get
from costume dramas with rich superficials... so there's that.
 
> I think it's decent myself, though IMO not a masterpiece. There are some touches I really like that enhance its authenticity. And I agree that Lawrence was quite good in it.
 
> But I should add that the subculture it depicts isn't so much like the >clans in "Deliverance" or Hatfields-McCoys. IIRC it's set in Arkansas, >whereas the Hatfields-McCoys were (and are) on the West Virginia-Kentucky >border and though I don't remember if "Deliverance" specifies, deeper south >on the East coast, like NC-SC. These regional differences are quite >significant. I spent a good chunk of time in highland Virginia 20 years >ago, and you never forget you're an outsider there. As an aside, I once was vdriving in Kentucky and got clipped by a Ryder truck making an illegal turn >in Kentucky. Turned out that a Hatfield was driving it.
 
And we all believe that. :)
 
But yes, the ONLY flaw I could find in the film would be that the clan's
hillybillness and evilness is over the top. Then again, I wasn't
expecting a documentary. It's not like Deliverance was one either. Both
had banjos, too.
 
However, what the film perhaps suffered in credibility was amply
compensated with atmosphere... and I also liked how the storytelling
didn't force feed the viewer with answers but was subtle instead which
kept it engaging. For example in the end...
SPOILER when the uncle says that he knows who killed his brother,
Lawrence's character offers him the banjo as a gesture to let it go and
not get killed himself seeking for revenge. Probably the last time she
ever saw him. SPOILER
 
 
>> where Robert De Niro plays the father...
>> My rating is 5... 6 at best.
 
> This one I didn't like at all. I absolutely hated DeNiro's performance, >the psychiatrist character, and all the crap involving football, >particularly since I hate the sport. Hard to believe that David O. Russell >made this, same guy that did the magnificent "American Hustle." ;)
 
Yeah, I think Hustle is better than this one.
 
It's easy to spot a bad-mediocre comedy for the last decades: It has De
Niro in it.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 18 08:47AM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 8:21:20 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
 
> What's there to hate? Ok, we know that C1's strength is is not
> atmosphere films and on top of that this films is as far as it can get
> from costume dramas with rich superficials... so there's that.
 
Yes, probably both of those factors at work. Lots of icky rural mountain folk, none of them beautiful, "nothing happens."
 
> hillybillness and evilness is over the top. Then again, I wasn't
> expecting a documentary. It's not like Deliverance was one either. Both
> had banjos, too.
 
I didn't even think it was over the top. They weren't even all truly evil, or they would have done away with Lawrence's character early on and rid themselves of her poking around.
 
> Lawrence's character offers him the banjo as a gesture to let it go and
> not get killed himself seeking for revenge. Probably the last time she
> ever saw him. SPOILER
 
A couple of things I liked were that (1)) she tried so hard to contact the old badass grandpa and he ended up having literally had one line (2) the "Teardrop" character had such a fearsome rep, but we only saw small flashes of his potential violence. The restraint in both cases helped the film.
 
> >> ...A romantic comedy starring Jennifer Lawrence and Bradley Cooper.
 
> It's easy to spot a bad-mediocre comedy for the last decades: It has De
> Niro in it.
 
De Niro is determined to destroy his early career legacy, and doing a great job of it. His characters used to feel larger than life. Now he's always some hapless shmoe.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 18 07:00PM +0300

Gracchus kirjoitti 18.6.2017 klo 18:47:
>> atmosphere films and on top of that this films is as far as it can get
>> from costume dramas with rich superficials... so there's that.
 
> Yes, probably both of those factors at work. Lots of icky rural mountain folk, none of them beautiful, "nothing happens."
 
:)
 
Preemptive strike!
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 18 08:42AM -0700

Figures that a chick like Court1 would love them
Nothing wrong with that they have some great memorable and shallow songs.
 
A friend of mine summed up The Cars best. They are an easy band to get in and am easy band to get out as well ;)
undecided <costasz@gmail.com>: Jun 18 08:38AM -0700

> > that's way into his career.
 
> > bob
 
> But we do know his decline started not in 2000 but in 1998 when he was no longer capable of winning two slam a year. His slam winning record since 1998 was 1,1,1,0,1. He would be like Federer in the last few years but certainly even less consistent than Fed, he would be hoping to catch that last slam. Think about it after 2002 he would have more challengers on the fast surface like Fed, Hewitt, Safin, Roddick not Agassi or Rafter or Pioline he was facing to win his last two Wimbledons and USO when he was well passed 31.
 
His real decline was after the back injury that caused him to pull out of USO. He was never the same after that. He was top dog up until that moment.
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jun 18 04:26PM +0100

On 18/06/2017 09:37, The Iceberg wrote:
 
>> The link is courtesy of Tennisguy.
 
>> lo yeeOn
 
> JET FUEL!
 
aka kerosene! Which is also rocket fuel.
 
 
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