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Thursday, June 1, 2017

TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 02 02:32AM +0300

TT kirjoitti 1.6.2017 klo 17:02:
 
> How many of these have you seen Stephen?
> http://www.listchallenges.com/imdb-top-250-movies-of-the-21st-century
 
> I've seen 198/252 (= top 3%).
 
No reply. Does this mean quality beats quantity after all...
 
Now at 200 (= top 2%). Watched 'John Wick 2' (not as good as the first
one, pretty bad actually) and noticed I forgot to check 'Ray'...
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 02 03:36AM +0300

stephenJ kirjoitti 1.6.2017 klo 13:43:
> As far as we know, I see a LOT more foreign films, a lot more classics,
> etc. than TT
 
Sure you do. :-D
 
I guess this list is like made for you then...
 
Digital Dream Door's 100 Greatest Foreign Movies
http://www.listchallenges.com/digital-dream-doors-100-greatest-foreign-movies
 
I've seen 64/100.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 02 04:09AM +0300

TT kirjoitti 2.6.2017 klo 3:36:
 
> Digital Dream Door's 100 Greatest Foreign Movies
> http://www.listchallenges.com/digital-dream-doors-100-greatest-foreign-movies
 
> I've seen 64/100.
 
Empire Magazine's 100 Best Films of World Cinema:
http://www.listchallenges.com/empire-magazines-updated-100-best-films-of
 
70/100
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 01 06:21PM -0700

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 7:32:16 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> > http://www.listchallenges.com/imdb-top-250-movies-of-the-21st-century
 
> > I've seen 198/252 (= top 3%).
 
 
> No reply. Does this mean quality beats quantity after all...
 
Or how many has StephenJ seen on this list for example?
 
https://letterboxd.com/top10ner/list/top10ners-1001-greatest-movies-of-all-time/
 
Or find another list of greatest all time movies which is composed of many classics post the Silent Era and see how many he's seen.
 
StephenJ has posted on this ng a lot longer than I have so I'm not sure about this question but did he participate in the movie threads you (or somebody else) created in the years before I posted showing that he watched or had an interest in many of the all time greatest movies from the past? Or is he mostly a movie watcher of more current films of the past decade/twenty years or so(many of them blockbuster type films?)
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 01 08:46PM -0400

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/amp/p/57a042dd4e05
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TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 02 04:13AM +0300

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 2.6.2017 klo 3:46:
> https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/amp/p/57a042dd4e05
 
Yeah, just a bunch of random patriots. Same with Flynn, Trump had
nothing to do with it... and Pence is pure as a driven snow, innocent as
a young puppy...
 
If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.
TennisGuy <TGuy@techsavvy.com>: Jun 01 05:29PM -0400

On 6/1/2017 1:18 PM, Court_1 wrote:
 
> Is it coming yet again or can she finally go all the way? She'll
> never have a better opportunity to win a slam with no Serena, no
> Sharapova, no Azarenka.
 
First of all your title makes too much sense!
 
Better change it to something like:
"What is Halep going to crap her pants?" so Calimero can understand it
better. :)
 
Second of all you are beginning to sound like StephenJ
with his reverse jinx psychology!
 
Why did you pick Halep as your first choice for the 'Hops' contest
if you think she will crap out?
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 01 06:05PM -0700

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 5:30:38 PM UTC-4, TennisGuy wrote:
> with his reverse jinx psychology!
 
> Why did you pick Halep as your first choice for the 'Hops' contest
> if you think she will crap out?
 
Because I had to pick somebody so I looked at the players who have been the most competent on clay this season thus far or players who are the best on clay overall and Halep has looked the best this season along with Mladenovic and Svitolina whereas Muguruza and Kuznetsova have shown they can win the FO in the past. Those were the best choices I think.
 
But look at that list and who can say they would have full confidence in any of those ladies to get it done? It's like picking the best apple out of a bin of rotting ones. I just have a bad feeling Halep may fall due to the pressure even without any heavy hitters in her half of the draw. She's clearly the best clay court player at the moment but her mental frailties are her biggest enemy.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 02 02:19AM +0300

*skriptis kirjoitti 1.6.2017 klo 22:44:
> https://youtu.be/AlWASffvBkg
 
Self-important prick.
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 01 04:59PM -0700

He will destroy everything
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 02 03:08AM +0300

soccerfan777 kirjoitti 2.6.2017 klo 2:59:
> He will destroy everything
 
Also notice how much of the 'audience' looks like secret service guys...
The first US president to use paid 'supporters'?
 
...When he visited the FBI the reports said that people cheering for him
were not FBI but came with Trump to the scene. Very North Korea/Soviet
Union...
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 02 02:47AM +0300

Gracchus kirjoitti 1.6.2017 klo 23:19:
> (3) she has a really nice body
 
That's pretty much the only thing going for her...
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 01 04:58PM -0700

Gracchus has sold his soul to the devil by embracing Bootard
TennisGuy <TGuy@techsavvy.com>: Jun 01 06:30PM -0400

On 6/1/2017 3:06 PM, *skriptis wrote:
 
> In the end he was a loser.
 
> Murray struggled again but I guess/hope his worst is behind him
> and that he'll put up some decent performances from now onwards.
 
Meh!
 
Biggest surprise today...
Raja takes out Pavic! LOL
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 02 01:14AM +0300

In important ways the Trump administration had backed away from its
Paris commitments long before Thursday.
 
When it signed on to Paris in 2015, the United States promised to cut
its greenhouse-gas emissions 25 percent below where they stood in 2005.
To meet these goals, the Obama administration advanced a slew of new
executive policies, including the Clean Power Plan for the electricity
sector, fuel-economy standards for cars, and a rule limiting how much
methane could be freely vented from public lands.
 
In less than six months in office, the Trump administration has
systematically rolled back these rules, ceded to court challenges
against them, or signaled that it will not strictly enforce them. He has
also asked Congress to cancel the subsidies for renewable energy, and
his Department of Energy is pursuing policies that Chuck Grassley, a
Republican senator from Iowa, has decried as "anti-wind."
 
With those policy changes already taking effect, it seems unlikely
that—even if the United States remained in Paris—it could still meet its
commitments under the treaty.
 
And that raises a broader question about the health—and ultimate fate—of
the U.S. renewable-energy industry. Without support from the government,
or access to the developing market through UN climate talks, American
firms may be at a disadvantage negotiating with developing countries. It
will make it far easier for China and Germany's manufacturing sectors to
dominate the renewable-energy industry, a trillion-dollar industry
expected to more than quadruple in size.
 
Germany and China both aggressively subsidize their own clean-energy
firms. And the EU and China have already planned to work closer with
each other on climate-related research and technological development.
 
This possibility dominated a rare statement from Barack Obama, released
as Trump was speaking. "The nations that remain in the Paris Agreement
will be the nations that reap the benefits in jobs and industries. I
believe the United States of America should be at the front of the
pack," he said. "For the nations that committed themselves to that
future, the Paris Agreement opened the floodgates for businesses,
scientists, and engineers to unleash high-tech, low-carbon investment
and innovation on an unprecedented scale."
 
If solar and wind companies in the United States falter—and if this
country hunkers down into a fossil-fuel-dominated economy in the
2020s—then it may permanently deprive the American economy of a massive
global opportunity. It could also undercut the U.S. claim to a century
of global leadership on scientific research and technological development.
 
And perhaps most importantly, it will allow Germany and China to lead
the world diplomatically on other issues, as well. At best, a Democratic
president negotiating an international agreement which a Republican
president then abandons will be interpreted as instability; at worst, it
will throw other U.S. diplomatic commitments into doubt.
 
"Global statecraft relies on trust, reputation and credibility, which
can be all too easily squandered," has warned George P. Shultz, the U.S.
secretary of state under President Ronald Reagan. "If America fails to
honor a global agreement that it helped forge, the repercussions will
undercut our diplomatic priorities across the globe."
 
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/06/did-donald-trump-just-make-the-planet-hotter/525222/
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 01 02:44PM -0700

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 11:12:55 PM UTC+2, The Iceberg wrote:
> Google has submitted plans to Camden Council for approval around two years after boss Larry Page ordered previous extravagant proposals be ripped up because they were too boring.
 
> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4562146/Google-unveils-plans-new-1billion-London-HQ.html#ixzz4imspzX5A
> Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
 
 
 
So UK Google employees get a new HQ building.
So what?
What has this to do with bankers fleeing London??
 
 
Max
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jun 01 11:00PM +0100

On 01/06/2017 22:12, The Iceberg wrote:
> Google has submitted plans to Camden Council for approval around two years after boss Larry Page ordered previous extravagant proposals be ripped up because they were too boring.
 
> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4562146/Google-unveils-plans-new-1billion-London-HQ.html#ixzz4imspzX5A
> Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
 
It's nothing new, it's been planned for about 3 years now and was
supposed to have been started last year. The original plans were
'too boring' so it's been delayed. They are planning to add around
3000 new jobs, but there are more buildings planned for the King's
Cross site that will add another 4000 later.
 
 
 
 
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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 01 11:15PM +0200

> |
> |
> Are you Canadian or a German. ;)
 
 
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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 01 02:52PM -0700

On Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:30:03 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
 
> We have a MASSIVE trade deficit with Germany, plus they pay FAR
> LESS than they should on NATO & military. Very bad for U.S. This
> will change
 
LOLOL yep!
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 01 11:49PM +0300

According to John Sterman, a professor at the MIT Sloan School of
Management and senior advisor at ClimateInteractive, leaving the Paris
Agreement would create an uncertainty in the economy over the future of
both fossil fuels and renewable energy resources. That would be "bad for
businesses" and others hoping to invest in renewable energy, and could
spread to other countries' economies as well. It would also lead to
slower renewable energy deployments, Sterman says.
 
The costs of these energy sources are going down, but if the Paris
Agreement is cut, uncertainty will cause solar and wind to be deployed
more slowly, keeping their costs higher longer and ultimately slowing
the ongoing American transition to renewable energy.
 
Another repercussion of leaving the Paris Agreement, Sterman says, is
potential retaliation from other countries, which could either leave the
Paris Agreement as well, or punish the US in some way for leaving the
agreement.
 
For example, Sterman says, "It's not that far-fetched to imagine a
scenario where China, in response to the US pulling out...implement[s] a
carbon tax on all goods exported from the US to China, and others
nations could follow suit."
 
The prospect of this situation has led a number of fossil fuel
companies, including Exxon Mobil and coal miner group Cloud Peak, to
reportedly urge the President to stay in the agreement. According to
Sterman, coal, gas, and oil companies know that while they may be
restricted slightly by the Paris Agreement, they will lose their seat at
the international negotiating table — next to China, India, the EU, and
other world powers — if the US pulls out.
 
In an April 6th letter addressed to Trump, Cloud Peak CEO Colin Marshall
explained:
 
"By remaining in the Paris Agreement, albeit with a much different
pledge on emissions, you can help shape a more rational international
approach to climate policy...Without US leadership, the failed
international policies that have characterized the past 25 years will
continue to predominate...Addressing climate concerns need not be a
choice between prosperity or environment."
 
There could also be consequences for American jobs.
 
Trump has made jobs a central point in his campaign promises, but
according to Sterman, "I f we cede leadership to China... that's going
to cost jobs in the United States." A number of jobs producing wind
turbines and solar panels have already been lost to China, but if the US
pulls out, we'll lose more.
 
Sterman argues the US will lose jobs that can only be done locally, like
installing, operating and maintaining solar panels and wind turbines.
These kinds of jobs go mostly to blue collar workers — who are, as
Sterman noted, "the base of President Trump's support."
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/paris-climate-agreement-trump-decision-2017-5?r=US&IR=T&IR=T
Federer Fanatic <TheRelentlessTide@nospam.invalid>: Jun 01 03:39PM -0500

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 20:05:54 +0200 (CEST), *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
| Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> Wrote in message:
|> On 2/06/2017 1:45 AM, *skriptis wrote:
|>> stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net> Wrote in message:
|>>> Says MC Arena should be renamed for Evonne Goolagong:
|>>>
|>>> "It is now clear exactly who Court is: an amazing tennis player, and ...
|>>> a homophobe. Her vitriol is not just an opinion. She is actively trying
|>>> to keep LGBT people from getting equal rights (note to Court: we are
|>>> human beings, too). She is demonizing trans kids and trans adults
|>>> everywhere."
|>>>
|>>> Navratilova said "we should not be celebrating this kind of behavior"
|>>> and recommended that the No. 2 arena at the Australian Open be given a
|>>> new name.
|>>>
|>>> "I think the Evonne Goolagong Arena has a great ring to it," Navratilova
|>>> wrote, suggesting an alternative to Court. "Now there is a person we can
|>>> all celebrate. On every level."
|>>>
|>>> http://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/19510545/martina-navratilova-calls-margaret-court-homophobe-open-letter
|>>
|>>
|>> Disgusting person.
|>>
|>
|>
|> Margaret has a lot of views I don't agree with it, but she is from an
|> older generation who were tougher/more pragmatic - not self absorbed
|> naval gazing types who think world revolves around them.
|>
|> Is it sensible to allow 10 yr old children who 'identify' as the
|> opposite gender to become so? Seems retarded on the surface no?
|
|
| No, I meant Navratilova.
|
 
Yes, Whisp was confused and didn't realize that you're a kindred spirit? Shocking
lack of awareness on his part.
 
FF
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 01 11:39PM +0300

Following reports that President Trump is expected to withdraw the U.S.
from the Paris climate agreement, major technology firms moved swiftly
on Thursday to urge the president to reconsider.
 
On Thursday morning, major firms including Adobe, Apple, Facebook,
Google, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, Intel, Microsoft and Salesforce paid
for a full-page ad in both The New York Times and The Wall Street
Journal urging Trump to keep the U.S. in the Paris climate agreement.
 
Apple CEO Tim Cook and Tesla CEO Elon Musk were among the business
leaders to personally call the White House in a last-ditch effort to
keep the U.S. in the agreement, The Wall Street Journal reported.
 
Musk took to Twitter to warn that if Trump elects to drop the U.S. from
the climate deal, he will step down from his positions on White House
advisory councils. Musk has earned significant criticism for his
decision to stay on the councils in the past but has argued that it's
"important" to have a role in shaping discourse at the White House.
 
Dean Garfield, the president and CEO of the D.C. trade association
Information Technology Industry Council, called the Paris agreement a
"critical component" and a "responsibility." The council represents
major tech firms like Twitter, Samsung and Dell.
 
"The perception that we have to decide between creating jobs or tackling
climate change is a false choice," said Garfield.
 
During a segment of CNBC's "Squawk Box" on Thursday morning, CEO of HP
Enterprise Meg Whitman also pleaded with the president.
 
"Please do not withdraw from the Paris climate accord. This is not in
the best interest of Americans," Whitman said. "We need to own the next
generation of jobs, whether that's clean energy or 3-D printing or
immunotherapy. This is an arena that America should lead and must lead."
 
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/335918-tech-firms-push-trump-to-not-withdraw-from-paris-climate-agreement
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 01 02:22PM -0700

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 2:14:51 PM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> Poor Genie! 63 60 to Sevastova from Latvia (who?)
> maybe Court1 knows why?
 
She wrecked her ankle at some tournament shortly before the FO started.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jun 01 02:23PM -0500

Recommended. Don't see this film about the embers of an aging marriage
when you have other things on your mind, as close watching is rewarded
with perceptions of nuances and subtleties in the writing and
performances. Funny and bittersweet. Winger and Letts carry the show but
the entire effort is engaging.
 
B+
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jun 01 10:52AM -0500

> On 5/31/2017 10:49 PM, Court_1 wrote:
 
> I said Hombre was a decent character-driven story but it didn't blow me away and make me think I have to watch 20 > more Westerns.
 
It's your prerogative to think Hombre is mediocre, mine to shake my head. :)
 
FWIW, some westerns that IMO are worth watching:
 
The Wild Bunch
Once Upon a Time in the West
 
Eastwood: For a Few Dollars More, the Good/bad/ugly, Outlaw Josey Wales,
High Plains Drifter
 
John Wayne: Rio Bravo, the Searchers, Red River, Hondo, Fort Apache
 
Those are good places to start. :)
 
 
 
 
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