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Thursday, May 18, 2017

grif <griffin_230@hotmail.com>: May 18 05:31PM +0100

On 18/05/2017 15:58, Gracchus wrote:
 
>> Turner is a goddess. And yes, she was femme fatale in Body Heat... which
>> I think is often categorized as Neo-Noir.
 
> It's intentional neo-noir for sure. Kasdan understood the genre well enough to make it work. Some directors try it just thinking a voiceover or fedora will do the job.
 
Yeah, I think it was influenced by "Double Indemnity". Speaking of which, I understood that having Stanwyck wear a false wig was a deliberate decision, but it was too distracting and thought it diminished her allure. Really good film, otherwise.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 18 10:02AM -0700

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 9:31:40 AM UTC-7, grif wrote:
> >> I think is often categorized as Neo-Noir.
 
> > It's intentional neo-noir for sure. Kasdan understood the genre well enough to make it work. Some directors try it just thinking a voiceover or fedora will do the job.
 
> Yeah, I think it was influenced by "Double Indemnity". Speaking of which, I understood that having Stanwyck wear a false wig was a deliberate decision, but it was too distracting and thought it diminished her allure. Really good film, otherwise.
 
The background of its writing is interesting too. Billy Wilder and Raymond Chandler collaborated on adapting the screenplay from James Cain's story.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: May 18 09:49AM -0700

Op donderdag 18 mei 2017 12:57:42 UTC+2 schreef Whisper:
> > 2nd part: Fed leads 6-2 = 75%
 
> > Pretty telling I would say.
 
> Not when you consider 4 of the 6 are WTF matches - essentially exhibition.
 
Another pathetic attempt to downgrade Fed's accolades... Was it also an exhibition when Sampras was arsed enough to win a record number of them? You cheap goalshifter.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: May 18 09:55AM -0700

Op donderdag 18 mei 2017 16:17:23 UTC+2 schreef Whisper:
 
> Yes, the guy who is more aggressive has the advantage in poor light.
> It's hard enough to react in broad daylight, let alone in dusk.
 
There's more time to react when playing defense, dummy. That's the whole idea of playing defense; it's considered safer... Can't believe I have to type this out.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 18 08:48AM -0700

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 5:37:06 AM UTC-7, Guypers wrote:
> > > greats in tier 1 are Laver & Nadal.
 
> > Of course. Any way you can move the goalposts to exclude Federer from greatness and place him into mediocrity, we know you'll attempt it. Too bad your "estimation" is worthless.
 
> Croat eurontrash, cant speak english!!
 
I'll bet he has sneaky little eyes just like Cilic. Can't trust any of those guys.
Scott <scottl44@yahoo.com>: May 18 09:30AM -0700

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 10:02:12 AM UTC-4, John Liang wrote:
 
> > As it stands most people will still have Laver on top as far as
> > 'greatest tennis records'.
 
> Are you sure about that ? I remember one idiot name whisper said a few years ago Laver only won 5 open era slams that was too fewer to be considered GOAT. Was he the same Whisper ?
 
Whisper is a weathervane with a twist: he knocks Roger in every argument, but the means of doing so depends on where the wind is blowing. He is best disregarded.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: May 18 09:43AM -0700

Op donderdag 18 mei 2017 14:42:54 UTC+2 schreef TT:
 
> As for 'weeks'... well, Federer is currently showing you how unimportant
> that is, electing not to fight for #1.
 
He thinks this is the best chance for his #1 chances, given he's worries about injuring himself on clay.
 
Of course he's primarily showing how much more important Wimbledon is than the FO.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 18 09:48AM -0700

TT has always just written honest facts and opinions about Nadal from what I've ever read, it just you Fedfans are so warped you can't see that.
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com>: May 18 04:44PM

On Thu, 18 May 2017 13:53:45 +0300, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
 
> http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/18/robert-mueller-fbi-director-
trump-investigation-238537
 
> "He's no bulls—ter".
 
I'm hoping he gets to the bottom of the "Russian dressing on Trump's
salad" controversy...
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 18 08:45AM -0700

After 2000 Sampras had pretty much retired.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 18 08:55AM -0700

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 8:45:44 AM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> After 2000 Sampras had pretty much retired.
 
Yeah, just like McEnroe "pretty much retired" after 1985, negating all of his embarrassing losses. We've heard that one before. A player is retired when he or she stops playing professionally.
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 18 07:27PM +0300

On 18.5.2017 17:27, Whisper wrote:
 
>> All this with catgut and a 85 sqin paddle. The times were a changing.
 
> Only change was Sampras fading.
 
Nah. Everybody thought the match was an instant classic at the time. The
commies dismissed talk about Sampras' form, Sampras himself dismissed it
after the match.
 
Just look at the Sampras' first service game. Two aces, two
unreturnables, at least two +130mph 1st serves. That's peak stuff. "I'll
teach you, you whippersnapper".
 
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You should sign up to a cookie cutter answer checking service.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 18 08:18AM -0700

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 5:32:34 AM UTC-7, soccerfan777 wrote:
 
> I still haven't watched that movie. Nice troll attempt Iceberg
 
Don't bother. "Slumdog Millionaire" is nothing special. A cliched Hollywood film dressed up as "world cinema."
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 18 08:24AM -0700

What do you want, some art house manic depressive nonsense or something? It's pretty good and the biggest ever Western made movie featuring an Indian story. Most people that watch it like it, there's not much not to like and it's very well made and has a good story.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 18 08:37AM -0700

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 8:24:20 AM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> What do you want, some art house manic depressive nonsense or something? It's pretty good and the biggest ever Western made movie featuring an Indian story. Most people that watch it like it, there's not much not to like and it's very well made and has a good story.
 
Once the story went from the first gangster to the second, it was all pure cliche. They could have interchanged the Indian setting with a rags-to-riches romance mishmash any other place in the world. Putting the story in India was just cynically exploiting Western perceptions of the culture. Fine for the Burger King crowd though.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 18 08:43AM -0700

Name a film where that doesn't happen, especially one made for big big success, like I said what did you want, some manic depressive nonsense? It amazes me that anybody wouldn't like this film cos there's nothing much not to like unless you don't want ppl knowing what India
Is like for child beggars? I guess all that was just pure cliche, oh pls quit with the art house rubbish, could easy say those films are mostly cliched guessable rubbish too.
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: May 18 09:25AM -0700

Don't the Transformers and Fast and Furious, Star Wars, Star Trek franchises make tons of money. What makes you success means quality? Bahubali 1 was garbage I don't expect 2 to be better either
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 18 08:47AM -0700

But Pelle and you are claiming this is peak "millennium fh" Fed exploiting peak Sampras lol
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 18 08:21AM -0700

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 8:10:15 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> -- make him the greatest dirt player no doubts :)
 
> But he is already, so nothing new.
 
Every additional FO title makes it increasingly hard to overhaul it. Give credit where it is due! This guy is a Phenomenon.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 18 08:40AM -0700

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 5:10:15 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> -- make him the greatest dirt player no doubts :)
 
> But he is already, so nothing new.
 
And a dirty dirt player too.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 18 08:44AM -0700

Heheh that more like it!
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 18 08:15AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 11:01:03 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
 
> They're great, but otoh getting used to someone and having an
> permanent rivalry is essentially good for you and your game.
 
> Sampras lacked percent rival and pressure from behind.
 
The key words/numbers in my exhortation to you were 10+---slam---winners.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 18 08:17AM -0700

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 6:06:21 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
> I respect them greatly. They are extremely fortunate to not play in
> Sampras era. Both Sampras & Agassi would own all the top players today,
> except Rafa on clay.
 
Nope.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 18 08:28AM -0700

You hate Sampras and are a huge Fedfan that even reckons his fh stomp-volley is the best shot ever, so why would you buy it?!
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 18 08:34AM -0700

Oh yeah who would beat them??? Don't tell me you're going to be like some idiot tennis journo and say Dumitrov would beat them Lolol
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