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Monday, May 15, 2017

RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 15 05:46AM -0700

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 3:23:41 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Here are few if's :)
 
> If he can pass the first week in the FO, he will be a big threat to win the title having no pressure and full tank.
 
Bring back the FO 2011 Federer!
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 15 05:28AM -0700

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 11:19:52 AM UTC-4, RzR wrote:
 
> > Did you expect him to win so much this year?
 
> he had plenty of rest...he is going to get tired
 
> his clay quality was never questioned
 
He could get tired, yes. But he also performed to his almost peak level at AO 2017. He could do the same at Wimbledon with a 10th FO title and no expectations.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 15 05:29AM -0700

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 4:16:12 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
 
> >courty and I said way back, the previous evening ....
 
> i thought it a month ago...
 
> bob
 
I knew it after FO 2016, the CGS producing slam.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: May 15 07:46AM -0500

On 5/15/2017 5:21 AM, Whisper wrote:
 
>> Too much risk of injury or getting worn out mentally or physically
>> before FO, IMO.
 
> Rome is a big title though - should have skipped Madrid.
 
Yep, it's the second biggest clay title, and arguably the most historic
non-slam title. Tilden, Hoad, Newcombe, and Laver all won it. I remember
when Agassi won in 2002, he mentioned that it was a relief, that even
after winning the CGS, it was important to him to win the IO, he felt
his resume would have a hole in it without it.
 
Nadal *should* have skipped Madrid, but of course he's not going to do
that, he's always going to play the two big Spanish clay events.
 
Well, he did manage to win Madrid, Rome, and the FO in 2010 and 2013, so
maybe one more time? I'm really rooting for him to get #10.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: May 15 02:46PM +0300

http://live-tennis.eu/en/atp-race
 
Nadal
Federer
Thiem
Goffin
 
Murray 11th
Zverev 12th
Djokovic 16th
 
Are Djokovic and Murray done?
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 15 05:45AM -0700

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 7:46:28 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> Zverev 12th
> Djokovic 16th
 
> Are Djokovic and Murray done?
 
Murray and Djok are out of sorts.
Scott <scottl44@yahoo.com>: May 15 04:32AM -0700

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 11:19:31 PM UTC-4, Jason White wrote:
> On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 4:04:28 PM UTC-7, Scott wrote:
 
> > Which match is most important for Fed's legacy?
 
> Are you limiting this to championship matches only?
 
No, I included his R4 win over Pete.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 15 04:43AM -0700

Nadal briefly mentions it in his book, maybe that's what kann is talking about! :)
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 15 05:44AM -0700

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 7:04:28 PM UTC-4, Scott wrote:
 
> 2001 W 4th round Fed upsets Pete in five thrilling, hard-fought sets.
 
> ****
 
> Which match is most important for Fed's legacy?
 
For Fed it would be W 2003. For his fans AO 2017. A very memorable Jan 29 2017.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: May 15 02:09PM +0300

15.5.2017, 12:21, RzR kirjoitti:
>> beat Nadal at slams between 2007 Wimbledon and 2017 AO...
 
> how stupid are you?
 
> nadal hasnt been able to beat fedex since 2014
 
Nadal leads slam h2h 9-3 and Fed couldn't beat him but as a baby and
oldtimer. And the times apart from 2006 Wimbledon were because Rafa
choked. And they call it a rivalry.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: May 15 04:12AM -0700

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:09:30 PM UTC+10, TT wrote:
 
> Nadal leads slam h2h 9-3 and Fed couldn't beat him but as a baby and
> oldtimer. And the times apart from 2006 Wimbledon were because Rafa
> choked. And they call it a rivalry.
 
No, I wouldn't call it rivalry. Federer has 16 non clay court slam titles to Nadal's 5 that wasn't much rivalry there.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: May 15 02:15PM +0300

15.5.2017, 12:59, Court_1 kirjoitti:
 
>>> How would it be a three way rivalry between Nadal, Thiem and Goffin if Thiem and Goffin can't ever beat Nadal and Nadal has defeated them all in straights in every match at the clay tune-ups? *rolls eyes*
 
>> Thiem has beaten Nadal.
 
> In Buenos Aires in 2016 when Nadal's form was way off.
 
And?
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 15 09:34PM +1000

On 15/05/2017 9:12 PM, John Liang wrote:
>> oldtimer. And the times apart from 2006 Wimbledon were because Rafa
>> choked. And they call it a rivalry.
 
> No, I wouldn't call it rivalry. Federer has 16 non clay court slam titles to Nadal's 5 that wasn't much rivalry there.
 
But you say Krajicek & Sampras had a rivalry?
 
 
 
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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 15 04:45AM -0700

Tier1 Fedfan post! Lol
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 15 05:41AM -0700

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 3:50:59 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> else but Nadal and each other. (+Goffin lost to Kachanov at Barcelona).
 
> Looks like they're currently playing better than Murray and Djokovic,
> only behind Nadal. I sense a future three way clay rivalry here.
 
Thiem especially. I watched him play Stan on HC (IW or Mianmi, don't remember which) recently and found him quite good.
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.com>: May 15 03:11PM +0300

On 14.5.2017 22:28, TT wrote:
 
> ...while winning half a percent more points than his average at Ham/Mad.
> So far in these three clay tournaments Rafa has won around 1% more
> points than his career average on same three tournaments.
 
Better than ever!
 
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RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 15 05:39AM -0700

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 3:28:46 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> altitude).
 
> Rafa may face Thiem again at Rome quarters...
 
> Oh and... Nadal will now be ranked inside top four, above Federer at RG.
 
well done to Rafa. Tough bunch to beat, although Courty would disagree.
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: May 15 05:03AM -0700

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 7:29:32 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
> On 15/05/2017 7:52 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> > My wife and I had a baby boy yesterday. Both mom and son are doing well.
 
> Congrats. Stopping at 2?
 
Imran and Sania are the most popular names in pakisthan!!
Bharath Purohit <acebharath@gmail.com>: May 15 05:25AM -0700

Congrats Raja !!
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 15 05:37AM -0700

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 5:52:51 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> My wife and I had a baby boy yesterday. Both mom and son are doing well.
 
Congrats, Raja. Dad and son are born on dates that are four days apart!
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: May 15 05:06AM -0700

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 7:04:45 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
> Born in Osijek. I speak Hrvatski, German & French.
 
> --
> "A GOAT who isn't BOAT can never become GOAT if he plays alongside BOAT"
 
No english!
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 15 10:27PM +1000

On 15/05/2017 10:06 PM, Guypers wrote:
 
>> Born in Osijek. I speak Hrvatski, German & French.
 
> No english!
 
Apparently not too well.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 15 09:37PM +1000

On 15/05/2017 9:23 PM, TT wrote:
>> If he skipped it he'd probably be practicing hard anyway. Shouldn't
>> really hurt him if he can win his matches in 2.
 
> And if he can't?
 
 
Rafa knows his body best, & mentally he may want to keep playing
competitive matches rather than rest/train. Winning becomes a habit &
he could carry the form all the way through FO without dropping a set.
 
When I look at clay records I always look at FO 1st then Rome.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 15 09:13PM +1000

On 15/05/2017 10:46 AM, bob wrote:
 
>>>>> djok won CGS in 2016.
>>>>> rfa won CGS in 2010.
>>>>> fed won CGS in 2009.
 
 
 
Stan 2017
Murray 2018
 
?
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 14 11:59PM -0700

> > .....
 
> Those guys who fought like hell to preserve slavery?
 
> Wow, in Germany we don't have monuments of Wehrmacht generals ...
 
you would do if you were allowed.
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