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Sunday, May 28, 2017

stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: May 28 09:08AM -0500

On 5/27/2017 4:23 PM, Court_1 wrote:
>> like in movies.
 
> People or more specifically Neanderthals? You are going to see movies such as Baywatch and Pirates of the
>Caribbean Part 900 and you are saying my movie expertise is limited and immature? *ok, sure*
 
That's a remarkably limited and immature view of what it means to have
an expansive perspective on movies. I see about 130 movies a year just
in the theaters. That means I'm seeing an enormously broad variety of
films.
 
Your perspective is obviously far more narrow and limited. Sad. :(
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: May 28 09:08AM -0500

On 5/27/2017 10:38 AM, Brian W Lawrence wrote:
 
>> Oh no, they are miles apart, about 600 points on my scale. POTC is
>> quite good, Baywatch is dreadful.
 
> As I typed above. Weird.
 
And you were just as wrong then as now, so why keep typing it?
 
 
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: May 28 09:09AM -0500

On 5/27/2017 8:59 AM, Whisper wrote:
 
>> 19/1000
 
> Just saw 'Beauty & the Beast' with Emma Watson - wife loved it & is all
> happy/giddy.
 
Mine loved it too. I prefer the animated film from 91 but they did do a
nice job with this one.
 
 
 
 
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Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 28 07:32AM -0700

On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 7:08:17 AM UTC-7, StephenJ wrote:
> an expansive perspective on movies. I see about 130 movies a year just
> in the theaters. That means I'm seeing an enormously broad variety of
> films.
 
It doesn't necessarily mean that at all. You might stick to one genre.
Besides, a huge number of crap films come out every year.
calimero377@gmx.de: May 28 05:49AM -0700

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/mar/08/prince-charles-monarchy
 
 
So shy this whining about Trump killing the Paris Climate Agreement?
Our fate is sealed!
 
Max
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 28 03:54PM +0300

> https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/mar/08/prince-charles-monarchy
 
> So shy this whining about Trump killing the Paris Climate Agreement?
> Our fate is sealed!
 
First paragraph:
 
"The Prince of Wales is to issue a warning that the world has only "100
months to act" before the damage caused by global warming becomes
irreversible."
 
Calimero ...? Lol
calimero377@gmx.de: May 28 07:22AM -0700

On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 2:54:10 PM UTC+2, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
> months to act" before the damage caused by global warming becomes
> irreversible."
 
> Calimero ...? Lol
 
 
 
He said that a 100 months ago, you dimwit ...
 
 
Max
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 28 04:51PM +0300

The White House National Security advisor General H.R. McMaster did not
participate in the Trump-Netanyahu meeting on Monday, Kafe Knesset has
learned.
 
The President and the PM met on Monday evening, and started their
encounter in a one-on-one meeting ... later on the forum was expanded by
several advisors, to a Plus-3 forum. The President was then joined by
Jared Kushner, Jason Greenblatt and Ambassador David Friedman. The
Israeli team was augmented with Ambassador Ron Dermer, Special Envoy
Isaac Molcho and foreign policy advisor Jonathan Schachter. According to
an Israeli official who was present at the venue, at some point,
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was invited to join the expanded
meeting. However, McMaster sat outside the King David room during the
course of the entire meeting.
 
http://jewishinsider.com/11762/kafe-knesset-for-may-25/
 
While McMaster sat outside the Jerusalem meeting with Netanyahu and his
aides, the president included two officials with zero diplomatic
experience in the Middle East, his son-in-law and senior aide Jared
Kushner and a longtime Trump Organization employee, Jason Greenblatt. A
year ago, Greenblatt was "the chief attorney overseeing large
transactions for the Trump Organization, including any involving Trump
family members," Politico reported. "Now he's in the White House as the
president's lead envoy in the Middle East…" David Friedman, a bankruptcy
lawyer and the president's newly appointed ambassador to Israel (who has
long helped fund illegal Israeli settlements), rounded out the Trump
entourage at the Netanyahu meeting.
 
Critics pounced.
 
"There has been a lot in the press about Trump's growing antipathy to
McMaster ... Whatever the story may be there, if Trump doesn't take his
national security advisor into a meeting with another head of
government, he's again being reckless and foolish beyond belief," added
Benjamin, now director of the John Sloan Dickey Center for International
Understanding at Dartmouth College.
 
The absence of McMaster was not so important "as long as the ambassador
is there," says Evelyn Farkas, a deputy assistant secretary of defense
in the Obama administration. But she wondered whether an experienced
diplomatic note-taker was there, "because...the rest of the interagency
[national security team] needs to be told what happened." Not just that,
says Benjamin. "The national security advisor, or some other senior
professional staffer, as opposed to an amateur like Kushner, is there to
keep the president from straying into areas that he doesn't know and
preventing commitments that he doesn't understand."
 
All this is "just the latest example of a dysfunctional White House with
a broken staff system," says Chris Whipple, author of The Gatekeepers:
How the White House Chiefs of Staff Define Every Presidency. "An
empowered White House chief would... make sure McMaster is in the room
for important meetings with heads of state. But Reince Priebus is not
and has never been empowered. And Trump has no idea why that is
essential to his success."
 
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-mcmaster-israel-russia-fired-national-security-adviser-jared-kushner-616735
calimero377@gmx.de: May 28 07:21AM -0700

On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 3:51:26 PM UTC+2, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
> and has never been empowered. And Trump has no idea why that is
> essential to his success."
 
> http://www.newsweek.com/trump-mcmaster-israel-russia-fired-national-security-adviser-jared-kushner-616735
 
 
Newsweek?
Really???
 
Sometimes I think Pelle is a Russian mole ...
 
 
Max
calimero377@gmx.de: May 28 04:53AM -0700

On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 1:32:29 PM UTC+2, Court_1 wrote:
> Not everybody can win 10+ slams and be #1 for 300+ weeks! She's experiencing the same problem #1 Murray is.
 
 
Kerber is proof how low the level of women's tennis had sunk in the last 10 years.
 
Max
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: May 28 07:02AM -0700

Thought you were real proud of her when she won those majors last year
calimero377@gmx.de: May 28 07:19AM -0700

On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 4:02:12 PM UTC+2, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Thought you were real proud of her when she won those majors last year
 
 
Proud of Kerber?
Me?
Why?
 
 
Max
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 28 04:48AM -0700

Imagine if Kvitova wins the whole thing?. A player who never did much on clay comes back after a devastating attack and surgery to repair her sliced hands and wins the slam (and her first tournament played) on her worst surface?
 
What a story that would be. I'd love to see that.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: May 28 01:45PM +0200

> David W, make sure skriptis' picks do not get entered please. His picks were posted long past the deadline! That slimy weasel.
 
 
You're of course both humorless and classless. Disgusting
personality just like Rosie O'donnel.
 
I was indeed late, not "long past" but mere 10 minutes. And I
posted my picks replying to pelle who was also late, in a mocking
attempt. You seem to have missed his picks but have a pick on my
picks. Disgusting and scary obsession with me actually, as
otherwise you'd have noticed other guys who were late as well not
just me.
 
What's this got to do with you anyway? You're irrelevant.
I made no plea nor I tried to influence David whether he'll accept
my (and pelle's) picks or not. You're not running the show here.
Rosie.
David is. It's his game. So shut up.
 
 
Of course rules are simple and clear and more importantly it's
just a game so I'm perfectly fine if he doesn't take my picks,
which were 10 minutes late.
 
However genuine jurists would understand the spirit of the rule.
If your pick is Nadal d Djokovic, then it hardly matters if Bonzi
and Medvedev took the court couple of minutes ago. So even if he
accepted such late picks, as he had done occasionally, no harm is
done and the spirit of the game is still maintained and kept.

 
Some "get it" and some don't.
You don't.
 
 
But even funnier, is your malicious witch attempt to "harm me".
;)
 
 
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 28 10:17PM +1000

On 28/05/2017 9:22 PM, Court_1 wrote:
 
> What are you talking about? I don't have the same womens' picks as you do! Did you pick Halep d Mladenovic? Secondly, I did not look at your picks before I posted mine a few minutes before the matches started.
 
> As for the mens' picks, Nadal was a no-brainer for me long before I saw the draw and once I did look at the draw for the first time, I decided on Nadal d Wawrinka almost instantly.
 
> With the women, the most obvious choices were between Muguruza, Mladenovic, Kuznetsova, Svitolina and Halep. But the truth is, about 10 other women could win it as well. I decided to pick Halep as the winner because she has looked the best to me this cc season but she also has a problem with her foot and she's a head case so I wouldn't be surprised if she won the whole thing or flopped in R1. They are all a bunch of basket cases. No sure thing with the women this year.
 
Agree women's is almost impossible to pick. I went with 'absolute clay
form' if they played their best, & ended up with Halep d Stosur this time.
 
I have very little confidence in this tip, but even less in any other
combos.
 
 
 
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ahonkan <ahonkan@gmail.com>: May 28 05:44AM -0700

On Sunday, 28 May 2017 17:18:26 UTC+5:30, Court_1 wrote:
> Imagine if Kvitova wins the whole thing?. A player who never did much on clay comes back after a devastating attack and surgery to repair her sliced hands and wins the slam (and her first tournament played) on her worst surface?
 
> What a story that would be. I'd love to see that.
 
Kerber goes out in R1. Not surprising, since she is not in good form and
Makarova, the Graf-look-alike, is a giant-killer.
Kvitova won easy. I do hope she goes far. It would indeed be a fairytale
return after major injuries to her playing hand. Will she win it all? Not
impossible in the current state of women's tennis!
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 28 03:50PM +0300

On 28.5.2017 12:15, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
> Djokovic d. Cilic
> Muguruza d. Ivanka
 
My pick beautiful pick is censored!
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: May 28 03:57PM +0300

DavidW kirjoitti 26.5.2017 klo 15:11:
> Entries must be posted before the first ball is struck in Paris on Sunday.
 
Ouch... Guess I'm late now...
 
For what it's worth my picks would have been:
Nadal d. Murray
Muguruza d. Halep (if they're on opposite sides of the draw that is)
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 28 06:58AM -0700

On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 4:48:26 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> Imagine if Kvitova wins the whole thing?. A player who never did much on clay comes back after a devastating attack and surgery to repair her sliced hands and wins the slam (and her first tournament played) on her worst surface?
 
> What a story that would be. I'd love to see that.
 
So would I. It's unlikely all things considered, but it would be a great story for sure.
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 28 03:23PM +0300

Donald Trump, in the mid-1980s, aggressively pursued an official
government post to the USSR, according to Nobel Peace Prize winner
Bernard Lown with whom Trump interacted at the time.
 
Lown, now 95 and retired in Newton, Massachusetts, tells The Hollywood
Reporter that Trump sought and secured a meeting with him in 1986 to
solicit information about Mikhail Gorbachev. (Gorbachev had become the
USSR's head of state — and met with Lown — the year before.) During this
meeting, Lown says, the fast-rising businessman disclosed that he would
be reaching out to then-President Ronald Reagan to try to secure an
official post to the USSR in order to negotiate a nuclear disarmament
deal on behalf of the United States, a job for which Trump felt he was
the only one fit.
 
"He said to me, 'I hear you met with Gorbachev, and you had a long
interview with him, and you're a doctor, so you have a good assessment
of who he is,'" Lown recalls. "So I asked, 'Why would you want to know?'
And he responded, 'I intend to call my good friend Ronnie,' meaning
Reagan, 'to make me a plenipotentiary ambassador for the United States
with Gorbachev.' Those are the words he used. And he said he would go to
Moscow and he'd sit down with Gorbachev, and then he took his thumb and
he hit the desk and he said, 'And within one hour the Cold War would be
over!' I sat there dumbfounded. 'Who is this self-inflated individual?
Is he sane or what?'"
 
Lithuania-born Lown, who today is professor of cardiology emeritus at
the Harvard School of Public Health, had been the subject of
considerable media attention shortly before he first heard the name
Trump. In October 1985, he and Yevgeny I. Chazov, the personal physician
of the Kremlin's senior leadership (including Gorbachev), were chosen to
share the Nobel Peace Prize on behalf of International Physicians for
the Prevention of Nuclear War. In December 1985, shortly after
collecting their Nobel medals in Oslo, Lown joined Chazov for a meeting
at the Kremlin with Gorbachev, who unexpectedly had come into power that
March, making Lown one of the first Westerners to spend time with him.
 
It wasn't long after Lown returned to the United States that he learned
about Trump. 'Here's somebody who might be a source of [research
funding]. Why don't you meet him? He wants to talk to you — he asked me
to arrange it.' So I came into New York and went to Trump Tower and met
him for lunch." Lown says it quickly became apparent that Trump had an
agenda of his own. "I was sitting there in this glass bubble,
overlooking New York, and feeling, 'What am I doing here?'" he recalls.
"He seemed totally disjointed."
 
"I talked to [Trump] extensively about my experience with Gorbachev,"
Lown recalls. "I talked for about 20 minutes or so, about how I thought
Gorbachev behaved, blah, blah, and he sat there, sort of listening. He
was fidgeting and I realized he had a short attention span." Lown
emphasizes that the whole situation felt strange. "I thought there was
another agenda, perhaps, but I didn't know what that was," he says. "I
was not sure about his motivation for why he was doing it. But it puts
together sort of a continuum that began way back in '86, with his
fixation on Russia — the Soviet Union, then."
 
Though the lengths to which Trump went to learn about Gorbachev and to
secure an official post from the Americans never have been revealed,
Trump's interest in "making a deal" with the Soviets was widely reported
— and mocked — at the time.
 
"Trump's greatest dream is to personally do something about the
problem," wrote the Times' William E. Geist (NBC anchor Willie Geist's
father), "and, characteristically, Donald Trump thinks he has an answer
to nuclear armament: Let him negotiate arms agreements — he who can talk
people into selling $100 million properties to him for $13 million."
Geist continued, somewhat snarkily, "The idea that he would ever be
allowed to go into a room alone and negotiate for the United States, let
alone be successful in disarming the world, seems the naive musing of an
optimistic, deluded young man who has never lost at anything he has
tried. But he believes that through years of making his views known and
through supporting candidates who share his views, it could happen someday."
 
Trump expounded on these ambitions in a Nov. 15, 1984, Washington Post
profile ... The Post's Lois Romano asked Trump for specifics about how
he would approach a U.S.-Soviet deal, and recounted how he demurred
(using terms familiar to those who followed the 2016 presidential
campaign): "'I wouldn't want to make my opinions public,' he says. 'I'd
rather keep those thoughts to myself or save them for whoever else is
chosen. … It's something that somebody should do that knows how to
negotiate and not the kind of representatives that I have seen in the
past.' He could learn about missiles, quickly, he says. 'It would take
an hour and a half to learn everything there is to learn about missiles.
… I think I know most of it anyway. You're talking about just getting
updated on a situation.'"
 
In Ron Rosenbaum's November 1985 profile of Trump in Manhattan, Inc.
magazine, Trump discussed his obsession with brokering this ultimate
deal, stating, "Nothing matters as much to me now." He coyly suggested
that he already was "dealing at a very high level on this," hinting at
connections in Washington and at the White House, and that negotiators
like him were needed: "There's a vast difference between somebody who's
been consistently successful and somebody who's been working for a
relatively small amount of money in governmental service for many years,
in many cases because the private sector, who have seen these people
indirectly, didn't choose to hire these people, any of them, because it
didn't find them to be particularly capable."
 
It wasn't long after the Trump-Lown meeting in 1986 that Trump made his
first trip to the Soviet Union: In July 1987, he traveled to Moscow and
met with Gorbachev. "The ostensible subject of their meeting was the
possible development of luxury hotels in the Soviet Union by Mr. Trump,"
The New York Times wrote at the time. "But Mr. Trump's calls for nuclear
disarmament were also well known to the Russians." (Trump told Playboy
three years later, "Generally, these guys are much tougher and smarter
than our representatives.")
 
A Trump hotel never was built in the Soviet Union, which collapsed in
1991. But Trump's interactions with Russia were only just beginning.
 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-angled-soviet-posting-1980s-says-nobel-prize-winner-1006312
 
Once a megalomaniac, always a megalomaniac. In the meantime, in the KGB
archives under the tag Useful Idiot, a new name appeared.
calimero377@gmx.de: May 28 05:29AM -0700

On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 2:23:16 PM UTC+2, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
 
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-angled-soviet-posting-1980s-says-nobel-prize-winner-1006312
 
> Once a megalomaniac, always a megalomaniac. In the meantime, in the KGB
> archives under the tag Useful Idiot, a new name appeared.
 
 
Hollywood Reporter?
 
Lol
 
 
Max
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: May 28 06:47AM -0700

> short attention span
 
Very short
ahonkan <ahonkan@gmail.com>: May 28 06:18AM -0700

On Sunday, 28 May 2017 16:13:05 UTC+5:30, Court_1 wrote:
> On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 7:19:45 AM UTC-4, ahonkan wrote:
 
> > He calls Rafa's draw very tough.
 
> Nadal has the draw from heaven!
 
Not for the first time, I must add.
Hal Womack 3-dan <hal.womack@gmail.com>: May 28 05:52AM -0700

Venus Williams in Rnd 1 French: Live Stream = 0?
Hal Womack 3-dan <hal.womack@gmail.com>: May 28 05:53AM -0700

Aside, that is, from betting sites which demand one's credit card data.
 
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