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Monday, May 15, 2017

Gerry <gerry14@hotmail.com>: May 15 05:52AM -0700

I would say that fight against the refs might end up being the biggest one of this series for the Preds, and might even be one that they ultimately can't overcome. The Ducks are a heavy team, and they are clearly very comfortable playing outside the rules, and from what I saw last night, it was definitely a big advantage for them.
 
The game had a grand total of 5 minor penalties called, but probably more than 20 transgressions of the rules. The Preds have some grittier players too, but those guys are going to have to find ways of making an impact and understanding the latitude they have. Although some players don't have the same latitude as others, unfortunately.
 
l8r,
Gerry
Chuck <barberphoto411@gmail.com>: May 15 06:08AM -0700

Putting the whistle away and "let me play" rarely results in a 50 50 split when it comes to comparing the number of ignored infractions of both teams. It rewards grit at the expense of skill. Helps to keep close games close.
Gerry <gerry14@hotmail.com>: May 15 06:34AM -0700

In this case, I think they are going beyond "let 'em play"... there is that, and they for sure are ignoring numerous cases of interference, hooking, tripping, routine stuff like that. But perhaps more alarmingly, I think they are ignoring some plays that are actually downright vicious, and which certain players are feeling they can get away with in order to actually hurt opposing players. Some of the slashes and stickwork from the Ducks last night was clearly designed to injure. The officiating got onto a slippery slope and they just seem to be accelerating downhill.
 
l8r,
Gerry
Chuck <barberphoto411@gmail.com>: May 15 07:55AM -0700

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:34:18 AM UTC-4, Gerry wrote:
> In this case, I think they are going beyond "let 'em play"... there is that, and they for sure are ignoring numerous cases of interference, hooking, tripping, routine stuff like that. But perhaps more alarmingly, I think they are ignoring some plays that are actually downright vicious, and which certain players are feeling they can get away with in order to actually hurt opposing players. Some of the slashes and stickwork from the Ducks last night was clearly designed to injure. The officiating got onto a slippery slope and they just seem to be accelerating downhill.
 
> l8r,
> Gerry
 
I hate scrum hockey, unfortunately the NHL sees the endurance players must survive in the play-offs as a marketing tool. Games are kept close due to lax enforcement of the rule book rather then skilled defensive play. Third period penalty calls during close games are low. Recent two man advantages resulted from infractions the Refs are given no discretion, puck of the glass calls. Otherwise once a regular infraction is called, the whistle is put away. Full out cross checking, written off as "pushing" is tolerated during the playoffs because it contributes to the grit the NHL wants to sell along with increased tolerance of late hits
Mike <mike@gmail.com>: May 15 11:47AM -0300

On 05/13/2017 10:58 PM, Ed wrote:
> http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/subban-weber-trade-will-end-absolute-disaster-canadiens/
 
> Peter Laviolette talks about how the Nashville Predators will deal with the physical play of the Anaheim Ducks and goes over why P.K. Subban is easy to coach.
 
> Hear a coach say things about Subban that you've never heard before. (I feel like I'm selling a traveling circus sideshow)
 
Bergevin rolled the dice on several fronts and lost
He rolled the dice on his coach
He rolled the dice that his goalie could steal a series or two
He rolled the dice that Weber's leadership skills bring a cup
He rolled the dice that a team stacked with the best goalie and a
middling D would be able to overcome a limp dick offence
He rolled the dice on a team without a #1 centre and appears to be ready
to do so again.
 
There was just too much hope against hope on this team. Sure, they have
the world's best goalie but he's not going to give you 16 one goal
victories in the playoffs. In fact, I would argue that instead of a
stifling shut down type team, this team would be better off playing a
run and gun style. They got the world's best goalie back there so rely
on him. Don't try and make the team even harder to score against. To me
its like the law of diminishing returns. What do they expect to get when
you switch a D with PK on it for one with Weber? You might lower Price's
GAA from somewhere around 1.95 to 1.85 - big whoop. Load the team with a
run and gun offence with a take chances point of view and let Price do
his thing when he gets hung out to dry once in a while.
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