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Tuesday, October 31, 2017

Benard Atkins <batkins700@gmail.com>: Oct 31 07:30PM -0700

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"cao" <cao_black@yahoo.com>: Oct 31 08:17AM -0700

He'll sign with the Patriots as Jimmy G's replacement.
 
He leaves SF with a better stats than Beathard.
 
 
"John Walsh" wrote in message
news:eisfvcllo32n96ove91s56d2sjv794d0jc@4ax.com...
 
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:26:22 -0700 (PDT), Benard Atkins
>> http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/30/49ers-release-brian-hoyer-after-jimmy-garoppolo-trade/
 
>> Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out the door, Brian.
 
>So, this means greater flexibility in the upcoming draft.
 
I was heart broken about Hoyer leaving ... really. :)
 
Identify the defiencies and draft the players to correct them. Problem
is, they got problems everywhere. OL, RB, WR, LB, LB.
Sqwertz <mapi@aus.tin>: Oct 31 09:16AM -0600

On 10/29/2017 2:08 PM, John Walsh wrote:
> Gould nails a 50-yard FG!
 
Have you noticed that NO one here gives a flying fuck about your
breathless play by play peanut gallery twittering?
 
I mean seriously man, you try this same crap in the 49rs group every
damned weekend and to the same result - nada, no response, no
readership, zilch!
 
Just who do you think is your target audience anyway?
 
People with no TV or even a radio but somehow an internet connection
which they will, after carefully considering ALL the choices out there,
settle on YOU as their play by play monkey?
 
Dude, you're living a fucking DELUSION if you think anyone reads or
cares about your madness.
Nunya Bidnits <cook@sh.ack>: Oct 31 09:15AM -0600

On 10/30/2017 9:47 PM, John Walsh wrote:
> Sweet news!
 
Fuck you - common TRAITOR who posted this in the 49rs group:
 
 
> doing that one a weekly basis is might to leave you unable to name
> your children or find your way home from the store after you retire.
 
> Those are men, risking a lot to earn a living.
 
You defile every man and woman who ever put their mortal life in peril
to serve this very nation in our military, you Goddamned worthless
traitor SCUM!
 
Now you are known to all for just who and what you are, you bastard.
Sheldon Katz <brooklyn.martin@nope.invalid>: Oct 31 08:43AM -0400

On 7/31/2017 10:16 PM, John Walsh wrote:
> I'm impressed with his first practice.
 
> An overall upgrade from what they had last season.
 
HaHaHaHaHa!
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Chuck <barberphoto411@gmail.com>: Oct 31 08:33AM -0700

http://www.tsn.ca/big-names-declining-ice-time-and-trade-speculation-1.901388
 
Or it could just be a sign the talent around the player with declining icetime are playing better eliminating the need to over play certain players
Chuck <barberphoto411@gmail.com>: Oct 31 09:14AM -0700

Neither Max Pac or Galchenyuk are more productive with cranked up TOI. Galchenyuk if the increase comes from PPs can be more productive more 5 on 5 time hasn't been a benefit. Max Pac's PP drought begs the question that his PP time should be minimal 2nd unit PP time. Max TOI is seen as a bragging point for Norris candidate defencemen. Does it really help forwards?
Mike <mike@gmail.com>: Oct 31 05:34PM -0300

On 2017-10-31 01:14 PM, Chuck wrote:
> Neither Max Pac or Galchenyuk are more productive with cranked up TOI. Galchenyuk if the increase comes from PPs can be more productive more 5 on 5 time hasn't been a benefit. Max Pac's PP drought begs the question that his PP time should be minimal 2nd unit PP time. Max TOI is seen as a bragging point for Norris candidate defencemen. Does it really help forwards?
 
Max is a terrible passer of the puck. I see him constantly on the half
wall putting passes on the other teams sticks, in legs, missing the
point. I'd put him on the second unit as well but we cant do that to the
captain now can we?
Chuck <barberphoto411@gmail.com>: Oct 31 01:46PM -0700

I think Max Pac is now 38 games without a PP goal. His SH goal is a good example of the type of goal he often scores. Short shift on the ice high energy short shifts. He is a go to the net or bust type player. The longer the shift, the more conservative the game flow, the less likely Max Pac will be dangerous during the shift. Lots of icetime for him doesn't increase his production other then if he has done nothing up to that point, he might get lucky from an opposition gift
Mike <mike@gmail.com>: Oct 31 09:01AM -0300

On 2017-10-30 10:29 PM, Gerry wrote:
 
> Sigh. I guess it's time to let this one go. Jeez.
 
> l8r,
> Gerry
 
Hard to believe really, isn't it? The Habs are desperate for a centre.
So much so that their season will be a failure if they don't land one.
From a Habs perspective, you know the kid ain't going to the AHL so
take a chance on him. If he doesn't pan out, you send him to the AHL
knowing that he wont report and then you're off the hook for him anyway.
If there isn't more to this than meets the eye, the Habs missed an
opportunity which should surprise nobody.
Chuck <barberphoto411@gmail.com>: Oct 31 06:41AM -0700

The media think the Habs are desperate for a center. But MB isn't desperate to acquire one especially at the price for a center who would be ready for a top line role. No one out there will trade him one without demanding an over payment. If he makes any move, it will be for a defenceman with better puck skills then Benn, Davidson and his pressbox Corp. Even then I think he will hold off a little longer until an option comes off the injured list
Mike <mike@gmail.com>: Oct 31 09:34AM -0300

They've been bad, at times really bad but even I have to admit that
their luck has been brutal. Crossbars, posts, missed open nets, pucks
going in their own net off asses, double tips - we've seen it all. So
you have to wonder if the last 4 games, where they've scored at a rate
that they will be unable to maintain, isn't just a bit of
over-compensation as things work their way back to the mean. Likewise
with the Leafs btw - losers of 3 in a row, 4 of 5. You have to wonder if
things aren't adjusting themselves over there too. Don't get me wrong.
The Habs are still a bad team, they're not good in their own end
(despite Julien's comments last night) and their goaltending is shaky as
hell. In Toronto too. Despite the press coverage of the Leafs in the
second week of October being the favorites to win the cup, they're a
good team but not quite the team TSN et al thinks they are.
 
Anyway - the Habs have 3 rough games ahead - could determine the season
for them. Win 3 and they're back to 500 and there will be lots of talk
about doing things right, confidence, working the right way etc. Lose 3
and its over. They will not recover from a 4-10-1 start.
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BK@Onramp.net: Oct 31 05:42PM -0500

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 13:41:19 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
 
>> >It's called multitasking.
 
>> But not indicative of life away from a keyboard.
 
>I'm sporting a pretty good tan that proves I get outside....
 
Possibly, but you might have a tanning bed....but numbers don't lie.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Oct 31 05:52PM -0700

I'm sporting a pretty good tan that proves I get outside....
 
Possibly, but you might have a tanning bed....but numbers don't lie.
 
Uh....I play golf 3 to 4 times a week and I live near Tucson.
 
I also use my devices quite a bit for my RSG getaways. Using one right now.
BK@Onramp.net: Oct 31 07:59PM -0500

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:52:19 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
 
>Possibly, but you might have a tanning bed....but numbers don't lie.
 
>Uh....I play golf 3 to 4 times a week and I live near Tucson.
 
>I also use my devices quite a bit for my RSG getaways. Using one right now.
 
 
What devices? RSG getaways?
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Oct 31 06:13PM -0700

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:52:19 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
wrote:
- show quoted text -
What devices? RSG getaways?
 
iPhone and IPad.
RSG getaway is my term for the often entertaining time I spend here.
BK@Onramp.net: Oct 31 09:09PM -0500

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 18:13:55 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>What devices? RSG getaways?
 
>iPhone and IPad.
>RSG getaway is my term for the often entertaining time I spend here.
 
What iPhone do you have? I just ordered two Xs. Have had them from
the 3g on up but am gonna have to almost relearn everything over again
on this one. Big changes.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 07:12PM -0700


> What iPhone do you have? I just ordered two Xs. Have had them from
> the 3g on up but am gonna have to almost relearn everything over again
> on this one. Big changes.
 
Why did you opt for the X? I'm considering my next purchase, and I'd
welcome real world opinions; both pre and post purchase.
BK@Onramp.net: Oct 31 09:39PM -0500

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 19:12:59 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
wrote:
 
>> on this one. Big changes.
 
>Why did you opt for the X? I'm considering my next purchase, and I'd
>welcome real world opinions; both pre and post purchase.
 
I skipped the 7 and wanted all of those upgrades so rather than get
the 8 I figured to go the whole route and get what is a real change.
And I mean a REAL change.
:LLL
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 07:47PM -0700

> the 8 I figured to go the whole route and get what is a real change.
> And I mean a REAL change.
> :LLL
 
My reasoning is more about the fact that with the X you get the biggest
screen for the overall size of the phone (and you get the good camera of
the Plus). The Plus is just too big for me to pocket comfortably.
Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Oct 31 07:10PM -0400

On 10/31/2017 11:06 AM, Dene wrote:
 
>> This kind of misdirection is SOP with the Republicans. Legal problems? Quick, blame the Democrats!
 
>> This kind of crap will of course be successful with the suckers, but not with the folks that matter. The Mueller investigation will not care at all about Trump's late-night Twitter rampages or the mouthings from his enablers in the far-right media.
 
> It's equally possible that the M investigation will not lead to further indictments....or head down the path of HRC's dealings with Fusion GPS.
 
Wanna bet?
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Oct 31 05:49PM -0700

- show quoted text -
Wanna bet?
 
Uh....
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Oct 31 03:43PM -0700

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 2:14:16 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
 
> > It'll never get to Trump and I'm glad. Pence is worse in several
> > ways. I'll just look forward to 2020.
 
> I don't see how anyone could be worst than Trumpf.
 
I suspect the press would give Pence a 24 hour honeymoon.
Want to bet another $20 that Trump makes it through his first term? :)
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Oct 31 03:45PM -0700

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 2:15:51 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
> > influence the election that Pence will become president?
 
> > LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
 
> Well, that is the way it works. Why wouldn't he become president?
 
The RAT clearly has no understanding of American election laws or power of succession.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 03:48PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 3:45 PM, Dene wrote:
 
>>> LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
 
>> Well, that is the way it works. Why wouldn't he become president?
 
> The RAT clearly has no understanding of American election laws or power of succession.
 
I have a clear understanding that Pence was deeply involved in the
campaign and so may not be clear of criminality himself.
 
I also realize that the investigation may reveal that the whole election
was tainted.
BK@Onramp.net: Oct 31 06:14PM -0500

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:14:15 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
 
>> It'll never get to Trump and I'm glad. Pence is worse in several
>> ways. I'll just look forward to 2020.
 
>I don't see how anyone could be worst than Trumpf.
 
He would be MUCH better with Congress and anything political which
would move the country to ultra conservatism.
 
Then there are his religious doings. Check Religious Freedom
Restoration Act in 2015 Indiana. Then his belief in Conversion
Therapy.
BK@Onramp.net: Oct 31 06:20PM -0500

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:20:58 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
wrote:
 
 
>> Well, that is the way it works. Why wouldn't he become president?
 
>Because part of this whole process is going to come down to whether the
>election's results can actually be considered valid.
 
That's a pretty big stretch. Would be a historical change and maybe
not constitutional.
Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Oct 31 07:32PM -0400

On 10/31/2017 11:39 AM, Dene wrote:
>> As you've said Greg...deal with it.
 
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/manafort-faces-charges-are-tough-beat-n815806
 
> Prove what? I have no problem believing that both of them are crooks. Their crimes have nothing to do with the Trump campaign. The timeline ends in 2014. Trump was a candidate in 2015.
 
I also have no problem believing both of them are crooks, and that the Mueller investigation has a slam-dunk case and are using the threat of substantial jail time to get Manafort and Gates to flip. And does anyone think both of these douchebags are going to be willing to do hard time to save Trump? I sure don't.
 
Greg, it's time you start coming to terms with the facts. This thing is going nowhere but down.
Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Oct 31 08:12PM -0400

On 10/31/2017 06:45 PM, Dene wrote:
 
>>> LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
 
>> Well, that is the way it works. Why wouldn't he become president?
 
> The RAT clearly has no understanding of American election laws or power of succession.

What would happen if Pence was also shown to be complicit, and/or that the Russians definitely affected the outcome of the election?
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 05:15PM -0700

>> election's results can actually be considered valid.
 
> That's a pretty big stretch. Would be a historical change and maybe
> not constitutional.
 
Aren't these truly exceptional times? You have a foreign government
influencing your election.
Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Oct 31 08:25PM -0400

On 10/31/2017 06:14 PM, John B. wrote:
 
>> It'll never get to Trump and I'm glad. Pence is worse in several
>> ways. I'll just look forward to 2020.
 
> I don't see how anyone could be worst than Trumpf.

Trump is so inept that he got next to nothing done even with majorities in the house and senate. Pence would be much more diligent about implementing his foolish notions.
 
Of course, if it is proven that he is complicit or that the election itself was tainted by Russian interference, then he shouldn't get to be president.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Oct 31 05:47PM -0700

I also have no problem believing both of them are crooks, and that the Mueller investigation has a slam-dunk case and are using the threat of substantial jail time to get Manafort and Gates to flip. And does anyone think both of these douchebags are going to be willing to do hard time to save Trump? I sure don't.
 
Greg, it's time you start coming to terms with the facts. This thing is going nowhere but down.
 
To quote our dear President, "We'll see."
Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 06:56PM -0500


> Yet. You can rest assured that Mueller is not finished. He'll
> get the three fish he's caught so far to tell what they know
> in exchange for lenience in sentencing.
 
Pretty sure he is not. Two have plead not guilty.
--
Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 06:57PM -0500

> On 10/31/2017 11:06 AM, Dene wrote:
 
>> It?s equally possible that the M investigation will not lead to further indictments....or head down the path of HRC?s dealings with Fusion GPS.
 
> Wanna bet?
 
Nobody wants to bet a welcher like you.
--
BK@Onramp.net: Oct 31 05:53PM -0500

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 14:55:53 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
wrote:
 
 
>> Papadopoulos did the same thing Hillary did. Lied to investigators
>> (Congressional Committee).
 
>What a shame you can't prove that...
 
The difference is that one is a mistake and the other led to a guilty
plea.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 03:54PM -0700


>> What a shame you can't prove that...
 
> The difference is that one is a mistake and the other led to a guilty
> plea.
 
I'll go farther than that:
 
The Republicans doing the questioning of Comey lied about what Clinton
had said.
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Oct 31 04:41PM -0500

Moderate wrote:
> Let's hope there were a lot of nuclear scientists in there.
 
> http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/31/200-feared-dead-after-tunn
> el-collapses-at-north-korean-nuclear-test-site-japanese-tv-claims.html
 
Karma's a bitch.
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Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 01:41PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 1:41 PM, Dene wrote:
 
>>> It's called multitasking.
 
>> But not indicative of life away from a keyboard.
 
> I'm sporting a pretty good tan that proves I get outside....
 
...you claim.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Oct 31 01:42PM -0700

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 11:56:46 AM UTC-8, MNMikeW wrote:
 
> >> Not today....working all day today. :)
 
> > Twenty three posts on 10/31 (since 12:01) am
 
> It's called multitasking.
 
Yep....audible re-certification is blaring in the background.
BK@Onramp.net: Oct 31 05:39PM -0500

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 13:40:31 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
 
>> >Not today....working all day today. :)
 
>> Twenty three posts on 10/31 (since 12:01) am
 
>I take breaks.
 
Dodging again. that number shows that you are as prolific on the
keyboard as anyone else.
>You should go outside.
 
I do.
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Oct 31 04:36PM -0500

Moderate wrote:
> move the goal posts.
 
> That is your MO. Dishonest and petty.
 
> I am still waiting on your cite for Trump's 'favors' you lying POS.
 
These dopes actually think a measly $100,000 grand spent on stupid
Facebook adds changed the election.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 02:49PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 2:36 PM, MNMikeW wrote:
 
>> I am still waiting on your cite for Trump's 'favors' you lying POS.
 
> These dopes actually think a measly $100,000 grand spent on stupid
> Facebook adds changed the election.
 
And you know it was only that much, because...
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 03:02PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 2:59 PM, Moderate wrote:
>> Facebook adds changed the election.
 
> Hillary spent millions to disseminate false information from a
> foreign government in order to influence an election.
 
You have literally NO proof of anything you just said.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 03:03PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 3:00 PM, Moderate wrote:
>>> Facebook adds changed the election.
 
>> And you know it was only that much, because...
 
> He pays attention.
 
And even if true, how many people was that capable of reaching?
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Oct 31 03:09PM -0700

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 2:01:04 PM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
> - show quoted text -
> Manafort's attorney said his client was innocent? Wow! Stop the presses!
 
> The hard cold facts is that there is no evidence of collusion.
 
Yet. You can rest assured that Mueller is not finished. He'll
get the three fish he's caught so far to tell what they know
in exchange for lenience in sentencing.
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Oct 31 03:13PM -0700

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:04:05 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
 
> Seeing how long his has been going, if there had been evidence of
> collusion, those indictments would already be out.
 
> There probably will be proof of collusion.....by the Democrats.
 
Except he's not investigating them. He's going to get Manafort and
the other two to cooperate by ratting on others in the campaign.
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Oct 31 03:14PM -0700


> >Hell yes I'll change. I have no tolerance for a criminal occupying the White House. Bring on President Pence.
 
> It'll never get to Trump and I'm glad. Pence is worse in several
> ways. I'll just look forward to 2020.
 
I don't see how anyone could be worst than Trumpf.
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Oct 31 03:15PM -0700

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:04:30 PM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
 
> You think if Trump is brought down for collusion with Russia to
> influence the election that Pence will become president?
 
> LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
 
Well, that is the way it works. Why wouldn't he become president?
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 03:20PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 3:15 PM, John B. wrote:
>> influence the election that Pence will become president?
 
>> LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
 
> Well, that is the way it works. Why wouldn't he become president?
 
Because part of this whole process is going to come down to whether the
election's results can actually be considered valid.
BK@Onramp.net: Oct 31 05:37PM -0500


>BK@Onramp.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 14:53:43 -0500, MNMikeW<mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
 
<clip>
>> No response on that. Even Greg thinks that Meet the Press isn't all
>> left.
 
>I did respond. You chose not to read it.
 
I read it and dismissed it as very lame. The debate he hosted proved
that he was leftist? He asked pretty straightforward questions of
both candidates. The problem for you must be that Trump failed
miserably when told that his "stop and frisk" idea was found
unconstitutional. Then his waffle on the Iraq war and finally the
birthism idiocy. Incidentally, Holt is a registered Republican
according to his voting record.
"DumbedDownUSA" <dumb.america@gmail.com>: Oct 31 09:44PM

Moderate wrote:
 
> >>>>>>> credible stupidity...
 
> >>>>> I note you have no answer to the rest... admission by ommission?
 
> It is a quote from the cite that you crave so much.
 
Got any quotes about the lies you are accused of and are avoiding
answering, still?
 
--
Trump ***Irresponsible, unprofessional and sending the wrong message.***
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Oct 31 03:07PM -0700

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 4:33:49 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
> recipient of payments for the dossier of research alleging connections
> between then-candidate Donald Trump and Russia, effectively hiding these
> payments from public scrutiny, contrary to the requirements of federal law.
 
Punishable by a fine.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 03:20PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 3:07 PM, John B. wrote:
>> between then-candidate Donald Trump and Russia, effectively hiding these
>> payments from public scrutiny, contrary to the requirements of federal law.
 
> Punishable by a fine.
 
Unless she/they are allowed to correct the record in the same manner
Trump's campaign and administration members have had to do... ...dozens
of times.
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>: Oct 31 01:26PM -0700

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:06:11 PM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
> hook-shaped area in eastern Lorain County.
 
> The hook mostly includes Grafton, the eastern portion of which consists
> of some fields plus 3,350 state prison inmates, as illustrated below.'
 
 
How about the deliberate destruction of evidence in an election fraud lawsuit?
 
"A server and its backups, believed to be key to a pending federal
lawsuit filed against Georgia election officials, was thoroughly
deleted according to e-mails recently released under a public records
request.
 
Georgia previously came under heavy scrutiny after a researcher
discovered significant problems with his home state's voting system.
A lawsuit soon followed in state court, asking the court to annul
the results of the June 20 special election for Congress and to
prevent Georgia's existing computer-based voting system from being
used again. The case, Curling v. Kemp, was filed in Fulton County
Superior Court on July 3."
 
<https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/days-after-activists-sued-georgias-election-server-was-wiped-clean/>
 
 
-hh
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 01:41PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 1:40 PM, Moderate wrote:
 
>> How about the deliberate destruction of evidence in an election fraud lawsuit?
 
> Or Congressional subpeona.
 
> This does have a smell to it, but why no outrage when Hillary does it?
 
When did she do that?
 
If she did it, why didn't a Republican-majority committee advance any
charges against her?
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Oct 31 04:40PM -0500

Moderate wrote:
 
>> How about the deliberate destruction of evidence in an election fraud lawsuit?
 
> Or Congressional subpeona.
 
> This does have a smell to it, but why no outrage when Hillary does it?
 
Yes deleting emails, smashing Blackberrys with a hammer is normal
practice when under an investigation if your a Dem.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 02:55PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 2:55 PM, Moderate wrote:
>> practice when under an investigation if your a Dem.
 
> Papadopoulos did the same thing Hillary did. Lied to investigators
> (Congressional Committee).
 
What a shame you can't prove that...
 
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 03:19PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 3:06 PM, Moderate wrote:
 
>>> Nothing to see here.
 
> https://youtu.be/pG4P5_nON4Q
 
Clinton said that there was nothing MARKED classified, and the rebuttal
discussed whether there was classified information in her emails, not
whether they were marked classified.
 
No lie there.
 
 
The second supposed lie was her answering about WHAT SHE KNEW AT THE TIME.
 
No lie there.
 
 
Third, Clinton said her lawyers "went through every single email", and
the question that was asked was whether her lawyers "read" every email.
Not the same thing. You can determine that an email with the subject
"Happy Birthday, Mom" from her daughter doesn't contain classified
information without reading it from top to bottom.
 
No lie there.
 
See, doofus: that's ACTUAL REBUTTAL.
Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 04:55PM -0500


>> This does have a smell to it, but why no outrage when Hillary does it?
 
> Yes deleting emails, smashing Blackberrys with a hammer is normal
> practice when under an investigation if your a Dem.
 
Papadopoulos did the same thing Hillary did. Lied to investigators
(Congressional Committee).
 
Nothing to see here.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 04:59PM -0500


>> I am still waiting on your cite for Trump's 'favors' you lying POS.
 
> These dopes actually think a measly $100,000 grand spent on stupid
> Facebook adds changed the election.
 
Hillary spent millions to disseminate false information from a
foreign government in order to influence an election.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 05:00PM -0500


>> These dopes actually think a measly $100,000 grand spent on stupid
>> Facebook adds changed the election.
 
> And you know it was only that much, because...
 
He pays attention.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 05:06PM -0500

>> (Congressional Committee).
 
> What a shame you can't prove that...
 
>> Nothing to see here.
 
https://youtu.be/pG4P5_nON4Q
 
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Arraki <tattaundsttrikan@decima.hr>: Oct 31 08:30PM +0100

http://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/tucnjava-u-rimu-romini-huligani-nozevima-i-palicama-napali-navijace-chelseaja/1004635.aspx
 
Znači Talijani i Englezi, dva velika naroda, jedan koji je iznjedrio
Renesansu i znanost kakvu je danas poznajemo, a drugi koji je
standardizira sporazumijevanje te odučija/odbija crnce od kanibalizma i
milijune indijaca da ne zapale ženu kad im umre suprug.
 
Eto Noxone
 
Vidi vraga, osim u Šibeniku i Splitu, takvih ljudi ima i u Rimu
Arraki <tattaundsttrikan@decima.hr>: Oct 31 08:24PM +0100

> da, nije ga dugo bilo. Negdje sam pročitao da ga je delegat u izvješću s
> tekme spomenuo.
 
nije ga bilo cca 8 godina, odkad ga je Brezni prijavija plus još jedan
derbi malo kasnije.
Kad ti je boksački klub i prijateljevanje sa portugalcima, francuzima i
poljacima bitnije od povijesnog transa, koji doduše 2017 izgleda iznimno
politički nekorektno, što mu imho samo daje dodatnu draž.
 
Drago mi je da nije šaptom pao (trans), samo ja ne vidim u čemu je onda
bija problem platit 2500 kuna za ustavnu tužbu i legalno pravno gonit
sve te nakaradne nepismene imbecile iz saveza koji rasizam vide u transu
koji u originalu ima dvi crvene petokrake sa strane.
 
Inace, nedavno sam pokazivao slike sa transom jednom ameru, čovik se
zgrozija :)
Arraki <tattaundsttrikan@decima.hr>: Oct 31 08:25PM +0100

> Sve potamanit... sa 8 milijardi na max 2....
 
i onda si ti neki neki open minded libertarijanac...za tebe je Augusto
Pinoche milo dijete
 
live and let live covice...
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 03:00PM -0500


> Millions to the Clinton foundation?
 
> Half million into Bill Clintons pocket?
 
> Those kind of favors?
 
According to the RAT those don't count. Only imagined favors that
Trump gave to the Russians matter.
 
Nobody seems to know what the Russia did for those imagined
favors. Facebook opposition ads against Clinton AND
Trump?
 
I smell a rat.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 03:05PM -0500

> White House. I guess you get what you deserve.
 
> Is a tenth of what you claim true though; you don't have a good record.
 
> I note you have no answer to the rest... admission by ommission?
 
http://tinyurl.com/y7wkgmmo
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 02:42PM -0500


>>What are you even on about?
 
> Brian Williams is MSNBC .
> Not the same as NBC.
 
Bryan Williams was the evening anchor for NBC. He fired from NBC
for lying about being shot down in Iraq.
 
Idiots.
 
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 03:13PM -0500

>> Trump?
 
>> I smell a rat.
 
> Cite anything that claims that Russia paid for FB ads against Trump...
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5036323/Facebook-Twitter-t
ell-Congress-Russia-linked-posts.html
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 03:40PM -0500


> How about the deliberate destruction of evidence in an election fraud lawsuit?
 
Or Congressional subpeona.
 
This does have a smell to it, but why no outrage when Hillary does it?
Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 03:46PM -0500


> I guess that's why you didn't provide a quote to go along with your
> cite, huh?
 
> Try again.
 
You said any cite. You got just what you asked for and now you
move the goal posts.
 
That is your MO. Dishonest and petty.
 
I am still waiting on your cite for Trump's 'favors' you lying POS.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 03:50PM -0500

>> payments from public scrutiny, contrary to the requirements of federal law.
 
> Funny how when you talk about things Clinton is supposed to have done,
> it's always without a shadow of doubt.
 
It is a quote from the cite that you crave so much.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Oct 31 03:56PM -0500

Let's hope there were a lot of nuclear scientists in there.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/31/200-feared-dead-after-tunn
el-collapses-at-north-korean-nuclear-test-site-japanese-tv-claims.html
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"DumbedDownUSA" <dumb.america@gmail.com>: Oct 31 07:37PM

Moderate wrote:
 
 
> In her FEC filing. She incorrectly listed opposition research as
> attorney fees. That is a crime and a lawsuit has been
> filed.
 
Really.
 
It seems you have a very corrupt political system if a tenth of what
you claim is true and what is clearly the truth about Trump and the
White House. I guess you get what you deserve.
 
Is a tenth of what you claim true though; you don't have a good record.
 
I note you have no answer to the rest... admission by ommission?
 
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Trump ***Irresponsible, unprofessional and sending the wrong message.***
"DumbedDownUSA" <dumb.america@gmail.com>: Oct 31 08:10PM

Moderate wrote:
 
> > record.
 
> > I note you have no answer to the rest... admission by ommission?
 
> http://tinyurl.com/y7wkgmmo
 
Call me wise, but I don't follow blind links fron dishonest cretins.
Try again.
 
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Trump ***Irresponsible, unprofessional and sending the wrong message.***
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Oct 31 03:33PM -0500

DumbedDownUSA wrote:
 
>> http://tinyurl.com/y7wkgmmo
 
> Call me wise, but I don't follow blind links fron dishonest cretins.
> Try again.
 
We call you a lot of things. Wise is never one of them.
 
CLC filed a complaint with the FEC alleging the Democratic National
Committee and Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign committee violated
campaign finance law. They failed to accurately disclose the purpose and
recipient of payments for the dossier of research alleging connections
between then-candidate Donald Trump and Russia, effectively hiding these
payments from public scrutiny, contrary to the requirements of federal law.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 01:37PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 1:33 PM, MNMikeW wrote:
> recipient of payments for the dossier of research alleging connections
> between then-candidate Donald Trump and Russia, effectively hiding these
> payments from public scrutiny, contrary to the requirements of federal law.
 
Funny how when you talk about things Clinton is supposed to have done,
it's always without a shadow of doubt.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 01:52PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 1:50 PM, Moderate wrote:
 
>> Funny how when you talk about things Clinton is supposed to have done,
>> it's always without a shadow of doubt.
 
> It is a quote from the cite that you crave so much.
 
And you didn't provide it.
 
But now that it's out there...
 
....why do you object to this so much when you've dismissed so many
misleading filings by members of Trump's administration?
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Oct 31 02:56PM -0500

Dene wrote:
 
> CBS was straight with it's newscast. Watched Nightline and it was
> definitely biased and speculative. Can't comment about NBC newscast,
> although Meet the Press is fairly fair.
 
MTP was ok until Chucky Todd took it over.
BK@Onramp.net: Oct 31 02:58PM -0500


>> They are NOT the same.
 
>The are not the "same" no. Joined at the hip? oh yeah. The political
>commentators spew the same left wing rhetoric on both networks.
 
But you said all of them (twice). You asked for just one that wasn't
obviously left (deleted on this post) and I gave you Lester Holt.
No response on that. Even Greg thinks that Meet the Press isn't all
left.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 01:00PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 12:50 PM, MNMikeW wrote:
>>> favours for information FROM Russia about Clinton.
 
>> What favors? 20% of US uranium?
 
> Millions to the Clinton foundation?
 
Donated by someone who had divested himself of his holdings in Uranium
One THREE YEARS before the donation.
 
'Of the $145 million allegedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation by
Uranium One investors, the lion's share — $131.3 million — came from a
single donor, Frank Giustra, the company's founder. But Giustra sold off
his entire stake in the company in 2007, three years before the Russia
deal and at least 18 months before Clinton became secretary of state'
 
<https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/>
 
 
> Half million into Bill Clintons pocket?
 
> Those kind of favors?
 
Except that Clinton didn't participate in the CFIUS decision that
approved the deal:
 
'According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly
participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of
State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on
CFIUS, said Clinton herself "never intervened" in committee matters.'
 
<https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/>
 
Oh, and the uranium wasn't given to Russia: a 51% stake in a company
that controls 20% of US uranium reserves was bought by Rosatom...
 
...but they can't export the uranium without an export license from the
federal government.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 01:04PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 1:00 PM, Moderate wrote:
> favors. Facebook opposition ads against Clinton AND
> Trump?
 
> I smell a rat.
 
Cite anything that claims that Russia paid for FB ads against Trump...
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 01:17PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 1:13 PM, Moderate wrote:
 
>> Cite anything that claims that Russia paid for FB ads against Trump...
 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5036323/Facebook-Twitter-t
> ell-Congress-Russia-linked-posts.html
 
Those claims are about AFTER the election, doofus.
 
I guess that's why you didn't provide a quote to go along with your
cite, huh?
 
Try again.
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Oct 31 03:34PM -0500

> obviously left (deleted on this post) and I gave you Lester Holt.
> No response on that. Even Greg thinks that Meet the Press isn't all
> left.
 
I did respond. You chose not to read it.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Oct 31 01:38PM -0700

> obviously left (deleted on this post) and I gave you Lester Holt.
> No response on that. Even Greg thinks that Meet the Press isn't all
> left.
 
The real star on Sunday morning is Chris Wallace. He is relentless and fair.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Oct 31 01:51PM -0700

On 2017-10-31 1:46 PM, Moderate wrote:
 
>> Try again.
 
> You said any cite. You got just what you asked for and now you
> move the goal posts.
 
Except the subject of this thread is the collusion with Russia to
influence the election.
 
All snipped now by you.
 
 
> That is your MO. Dishonest and petty.
 
> I am still waiting on your cite for Trump's 'favors' you lying POS.
 
His changes to the GOP platform favorable to Russia.
 
'Trump campaign guts GOP's anti-Russia stance on Ukraine
 
The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the
new Republican platform won't call for giving weapons to Ukraine to
fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all
Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington.
 
Throughout the campaign, Trump has been dismissive of calls for
supporting the Ukraine government as it fights an ongoing Russian-led
intervention. Trump's campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, worked as a
lobbyist for the Russian-backed former Ukrainian president Viktor
Yanukovych for more than a decade.
 
Still, Republican delegates at last week's national security committee
platform meeting in Cleveland were surprised when the Trump campaign
orchestrated a set of events to make sure that the GOP would not pledge
to give Ukraine the weapons it has been asking for from the United States.'
 
 
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/trump-campaign-guts-gops-anti-russia-stance-on-ukraine/2016/07/18/98adb3b0-4cf3-11e6-a7d8-13d06b37f256_story.html>
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Oct 31 02:56PM -0500


>>> Like today? LOL
 
>> Not today....working all day today. :)
 
> Twenty three posts on 10/31 (since 12:01) am
 
It's called multitasking.
BK@Onramp.net: Oct 31 03:00PM -0500


>>> Not today....working all day today. :)
 
>> Twenty three posts on 10/31 (since 12:01) am
 
>It's called multitasking.
 
But not indicative of life away from a keyboard.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Oct 31 01:40PM -0700


> >> Like today? LOL
 
> >Not today....working all day today. :)
 
> Twenty three posts on 10/31 (since 12:01) am
 
I take breaks.
You should go outside.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Oct 31 01:41PM -0700


> >> Twenty three posts on 10/31 (since 12:01) am
 
> >It's called multitasking.
 
> But not indicative of life away from a keyboard.
 
I'm sporting a pretty good tan that proves I get outside....
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