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Saturday, September 30, 2017

$Bill <news@todbe.com>: Sep 30 10:02PM -0700

Lakers with little practiced O, played so-so D, but fouled way too much and shot
crappy from 3 and FTs. Only 4 guys in DFs and no DD (played a lot of guys).
Kuzma picking up where he left off in Summer League with 19 pts in 26m. Fair
to Midland start for the Lakers - like to have seen a bit more. 99-108 Lakers
lose by 9.
 
Next games following:
DEN at LAL: Mon Oct 2 1930 Preseason Game 2 Staples Center
DEN at LAL: Wed Oct 4 1900 Preseason Game 3 Citizens Business Bank Arena
SAC at LAL: Sun Oct 8 1800 Preseason Game 4-Mobile Arena
 
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Congrats to me the lone predictor.
 
MIN at LAL: Sat Sep 30 19:00:00 2017 (Run at: Sat Sep 30 21:44:03 2017)
 
NAME POST TIME LAL OPP DIFF VEC
 
Actual score: 99 108 -9
 
Qualified:
$Bill 30/18:54:42 96 104 -8 5.000
 
Average guess: 100.0 100.0 0.0 8.062
 
Disqualified:
 
Current prediction contest standings:
 
By vector avg: Usenet Vec
Predictor Tries Firsts Seconds Thirds DQs Score Avg Member
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$Bill 1 1 0 0 0 5 5.000 yes
 
By Usenet 5:3:1 Scoring: Usenet Vec
Predictor Tries Firsts Seconds Thirds DQs Score Avg Member
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$Bill 1 1 0 0 0 5 5.000 yes
 
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Quarterly Laker scoring leaders/notes (pluses OR/ST/BL; minuses TO/PF/oOR):
 
Q1 - Lakers a little slow starting, but get it going with the reserves -
shooting 48% vs 33%; pluses 4/2/3; minuses 2/9/6. Lakers need to hit the
boards and foul less. Ingram 9, Zubac 6, Kuzma 5, Randle 4. 29-31=-2Q.
 
Q2 - Laker shooting drops along with their D - shooting 37% vs 42%; pluses
4/2/1; minuses 6/8/4. Too many TOs - getting sloppy - still fouling.
Clarkson/Randle 5, Brewer 4. 24-30=-6Q.
 
HT - If LA can shoot and handle the ball more like Q1 than Q2, they've got a
chance - shooting 42% vs 38%; pluses 8/4/4; minuses 8/17/10.
Ingram/Randle 9, Zubac 8, Kuzma 7, Clarkson/Ball 5. 53-61=-8H.
 
Q3 - Lakers still not playing clean D - shooting 42% vs 43%; pluses 4/2/1;
minuses 4/7/2. Kuzma 8, Randle 6, Ennis 4. 21-25=-4Q (74-86=-12).
 
Q4 - Lakers only able to shave a couple pts off the deficit - shooting 53% vs
53%; pluses 1/4/1; minuses 4/5/2. Clarkson 7, Blue 5, Kuzma 4. 25-22=+3Q.
 
Game Dbl-figures Leaders:
Player Pts FG% 3P% FT% RB AS BL ST TO PF EFF
Kuzma 19 (75 /25 /0 )/ 5/ 0/ 0/ 1/ 0/ 2/+22
Randle 15 (50 /0 /50 )/ 7/ 1/ 1/ 0/ 2/ 1/+14
Clarkson 14 (60 /33 /100)/ 2/ 2/ 0/ 0/ 4/ 2/+10
Ingram 10 (27 /20 /50 )/ 6/ 1/ 0/ 0/ 1/ 4/ +4
 
Team scoring by Q (FG%/FG-AT includes 3P%/3P-AT):
Lakers Opponent Lakers Opponent
Q FG-AT 3P-AT FT-AT FG-AT 3P-AT FT-AT FG% 3P% FT% FG% 3P% FT% LAL OPP
1 12-25 3-10 2-2 9-27 3-4 10-14 48 30 100 33.3 75 71.4 29 31
2 10-27 1-11 3-4 11-26 1-6 7-7 37 9.1 75 42.3 16.7 100 24 30
H 22-52 4-21 5-6 20-53 4-10 17-21 42.3 19 83.3 37.7 40 81 53 61
3 10-24 0-4 1-2 9-21 2-7 5-8 41.7 0.0 50 42.9 28.6 62.5 21 25
A3 32-76 4-25 6-8 29-74 6-17 22-29 42.1 16 75 39.2 35.3 75.9 74 86
4 9-17 1-5 6-9 8-15 0-3 6-6 52.9 20 66.7 53.3 0.0 100 25 22
F 41-93 5-30 12-17 37-89 6-20 28-35 44.1 16.7 70.6 41.6 30 80 99 108
 
Team stats by Q (RB includes team RBs):
Lakers Opponent Diff
Q OR RB AS TO ST BL PF OR RB AS TO ST BL PF OR RB AS TO ST BL PF
1 4 14 9 2 2 3 9 6 14 7 2 1 0 4 -2 +2 +1 +3 +5
2 4 13 5 6 2 1 8 4 14 7 3 3 1 3 -1 -2 +3 -1 +5
H 8 27 14 8 4 4 17 10 28 14 5 4 1 7 -2 -1 +3 +3 +10
3 4 15 7 4 2 1 7 2 12 8 4 2 2 5 +2 +3 -1 -1 +2
A3 12 42 21 12 6 5 24 12 40 22 9 6 3 12 +2 -1 +3 +2 +12
4 1 44 6 4 4 1 5 2 -28 6 8 1 0 9 -1 +72 -4 +3 +1 -4
F 13 48 27 16 10 6 29 14 12 28 17 7 3 21 -1 +36 -1 -1 +3 +3 +8
 
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NBA Box Score:
 
Team 1 2 3 4 Total
Minnesota Timberwolv 31 30 25 22 108
Los Angeles Lakers 31 21 22 25 99 - Final
 
PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OR TR AS TO ST BS PF PTS P36 +/- EFF
Andrew Wiggins SF 26:25 3-12 0-2 3-5 1 3 1 3 3 0 4 9 10 +13 +2
Taj Gibson PF 27:49 6-12 2-2 4-6 3 9 2 1 0 1 1 18 19 +1 +21
Karl-Anthony Tow C 20:59 4-9 3-3 4-4 0 6 3 0 0 2 0 15 21 +11 +21
Jimmy Butler SG 12:00 3-6 0-0 4-5 1 3 2 1 0 0 0 10 25 +0 +10
Jeff Teague PG 23:48 5-13 1-4 0-0 0 3 9 3 2 0 0 11 14 +12 +14
Gorgui Dieng C 27:01 7-12 0-0 0-0 4 12 0 2 0 0 2 14 16 -2 +19
Shabazz Muhammad F 29:38 7-12 0-2 8-10 3 6 0 1 1 0 1 22 22 -3 +21
Nemanja Bjelica F 20:11 1-5 0-3 1-1 2 4 3 1 1 0 4 3 4 +8 +6
Tyus Jones G 8:15 0-1 0-0 2-2 0 2 1 2 0 0 2 2 7 -2 +2
Jamal Crawford G 27:57 0-1 0-1 0-0 0 1 4 2 0 0 5 0 0 +8 +2
Aaron Brooks G 15:57 1-6 0-3 2-2 0 0 3 1 0 0 2 4 8 -1 +1
Cole Aldrich C 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Anthony Brown F 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Marcus Georges-H G 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Amile Jefferson F 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Justin Patton C 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Melo Trimble G 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Totals 0:00 37-89 6-20 28-35 14 49 28 17 7 3 21 108
Percent 41.6% 30.0% 80.0%
 
Biggest Lead: 20
Fastbreak Points: 10
Longest Run: 6
Points In Paint: 50
Points Off Turnovers: 24
Second Chance Points: 16
 
PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OR TR AS TO ST BS PF PTS P36 +/- EFF
Brandon Ingram SF 22:28 4-15 1-5 1-2 3 6 1 1 0 0 4 10 13 -10 +4
Larry Nance Jr. PF 25:15 1-7 0-1 1-2 4 9 1 1 0 1 4 3 4 -17 +6
Julius Randle C 21:47 7-14 0-2 1-2 1 7 1 2 0 1 1 15 21 -14 +14
Kentavious Caldw SG 18:35 1-7 0-4 2-2 1 3 1 1 2 0 2 4 6 -18 +3
Lonzo Ball PG 36:04 2-9 1-5 0-0 3 7 8 3 2 0 2 5 4 -13 +12
Jordan Clarkson G 22:44 6-10 1-3 1-1 0 2 2 4 0 0 2 14 18 +4 +10
Kyle Kuzma F 26:15 9-12 1-4 0-0 0 5 0 0 1 0 2 19 22 +4 +22
Corey Brewer G-F 15:33 2-3 0-1 2-2 0 1 0 1 4 1 3 6 12 -3 +10
Ivica Zubac C 19:19 4-6 0-1 1-2 0 5 2 1 0 2 5 9 14 +3 +14
Tyler Ennis G 11:56 3-5 0-1 0-0 0 0 8 2 1 0 2 6 15 +4 +11
Alex Caruso G 6:41 0-2 0-1 0-0 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 +5 +0
Vander Blue G 6:41 1-2 1-2 2-2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 5 22 +5 +6
Thomas Bryant C 6:41 1-1 0-0 1-2 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 3 13 +5 +5
V.J. Beachem F 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Andrew Bogut C 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Luol Deng F 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Josh Hart G 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Brook Lopez C 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Briante Weber G 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Stephen Zimmerma C 0:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0 +0
Totals 0:00 41-93 5-30 12-17 13 48 27 16 10 6 29 99
Percent 44.1% 16.7% 70.6%
 
Biggest Lead: 2
Fastbreak Points: 13
Longest Run: 7
Points In Paint: 52
Points Off Turnovers: 17
Second Chance Points: 7
 
Times Tied: 0; Lead Changes: 0
Attendance: 0; Duration: 2:12
Officials: Gary Zielinski, Sean Wright, Randy Richardson
 
 
Yahoo Box Score:
 
Boxscore 1 2 3 4 Total
Minnesota Timberwolves 31 30 25 22 108
Los Angeles Lakers 31 21 22 25 99 - End of 4th Quarter
 
PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OR TR AS TO ST BS PF PTS P36 +/- EFF
Andrew Wiggins GF 26:25 3-12 0-2 3-5 1 3 1 3 3 0 4 9 10 +13 +2
Jimmy Butler GF 12:00 3-6 0-0 4-5 1 3 2 1 0 0 0 10 25 +0 +10
Taj Gibson FC 27:49 6-12 2-2 4-6 3 9 2 1 0 1 1 18 19 +1 +21
Jeff Teague PG 23:48 5-13 1-4 0-0 0 3 9 3 2 0 0 11 14 +12 +14
Karl-Anthony Tow C 20:59 4-9 3-3 4-4 0 6 3 0 0 2 0 15 21 +11 +21
Shabazz Muhammad GF 29:38 7-12 0-2 8-10 3 6 0 1 1 0 1 22 22 -3 +21
Jamal Crawford GF 27:57 0-1 0-1 0-0 0 1 4 2 0 0 5 0 0 +8 +2
Gorgui Dieng FC 27:01 7-12 0-0 0-0 4 12 0 2 0 0 2 14 16 -2 +19
Nemanja Bjelica PF 20:11 1-5 0-3 1-1 2 4 3 1 1 0 4 3 4 +8 +6
Aaron Brooks PG 15:57 1-6 0-3 2-2 0 0 3 1 0 0 2 4 8 -1 +1
Tyus Jones PG 8:15 0-1 0-0 2-2 0 2 1 2 0 0 2 2 7 -2 +2
Cole Aldrich C 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Anthony Brown SF 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Marcus Georges-H SG 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Amile Jefferson PF 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Justin Patton C 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Melo Trimble PG 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Totals 37-89 6-20 28-35 14 49 28 17 7 3 21 108
Percent 41.6 30.0 80.0
 
PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OR TR AS TO ST BS PF PTS P36 +/- EFF
Lonzo Ball PG 36:04 2-9 1-5 0-0 3 7 8 3 2 0 2 5 4 -13 +12
Kentavious Caldw SG 18:35 1-7 0-4 2-2 1 3 1 1 2 0 2 4 6 -18 +3
Brandon Ingram GF 22:28 4-15 1-5 1-2 3 6 1 1 0 0 4 10 13 -10 +4
Larry Nance Jr. PF 25:15 1-7 0-1 1-2 4 9 1 1 0 1 4 3 4 -17 +6
Julius Randle PF 21:47 7-14 0-2 1-2 1 7 1 2 0 1 1 15 21 -14 +14
Kyle Kuzma PF 26:15 9-12 1-4 0-0 0 5 0 0 1 0 2 19 22 +4 +22
Jordan Clarkson G 22:44 6-10 1-3 1-1 0 2 2 4 0 0 2 14 18 +4 +10
Ivica Zubac C 19:19 4-6 0-1 1-2 0 5 2 1 0 2 5 9 14 +3 +14
Corey Brewer GF 15:33 2-3 0-1 2-2 0 1 0 1 4 1 3 6 12 -3 +10
Tyler Ennis PG 11:56 3-5 0-1 0-0 0 0 8 2 1 0 2 6 15 +4 +11
Vander Blue PG 6:41 1-2 1-2 2-2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 5 22 +5 +6
Thomas Bryant C 6:41 1-1 0-0 1-2 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 3 13 +5 +5
Alex Caruso SG 6:41 0-2 0-1 0-0 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 +5 +0
V.J. Beachem SF 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Andrew Bogut C 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Luol Deng F 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Josh Hart SG 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Brook Lopez C 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Briante Weber PG 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Stephen Zimmerma PF 00:00 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Totals 41-93 5-30 12-17 13 7 27 16 10 6 29 99
Percent 44.1 16.7 70.6
 
Stadium: Honda Center
Attendance: 18000
Refs: Gary Zielinski, Sean Wright, Randy Richardson
Duration 2:12
 
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Recap from http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400978678
 
Lonzo Ball scores five points, dishes out eight assists and grabs seven
rebounds in the Lakers' 108-99 loss to the Timberwolves.
 
In the fourth quarter, a number on Tyler Ennis' jersey is completely
ripped off. He's forced to put on another, throwing the damaged shirt
into the stands.
 
Larry Nance Jr. gets the bench on their feet with a massive one-handed
slam in the second half.
 
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Game flow URL: http://www.popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20170930&game=MINLAL
From http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400978678
 
1st Quarter
0-0 11:55 Karl-Anthony Towns vs. Larry Nance Jr. (Jimmy Butler gains possession)
0-0 11:40 Lonzo Ball shooting foul
0-0 11:40 Taj Gibson misses free throw 1 of 2
0-0 11:40 Timberwolves offensive team rebound
1-0 11:40 Taj Gibson makes free throw 2 of 2
1-2 11:40 Julius Randle makes layup
4-2 11:40 Jeff Teague makes 25-foot three point jumper (Taj Gibson assists)
4-2 11:40 Lonzo Ball misses 25-foot three point jumper
4-2 11:40 Taj Gibson defensive rebound
6-2 11:40 Jimmy Butler makes driving layup (Andrew Wiggins assists)
6-2 11:40 Julius Randle misses 26-foot three point jumper
6-2 11:40 Julius Randle offensive rebound
6-4 11:40 Julius Randle makes driving layup
6-4 10:26 Taj Gibson misses two point shot
6-4 10:24 Brandon Ingram defensive rebound
6-4 10:21 Brandon Ingram misses driving layup
6-4 10:16 Karl-Anthony Towns defensive rebound
6-4 10:14 Jeff Teague misses driving layup
6-4 10:11 Andrew Wiggins offensive rebound
6-4 10:10 Andrew Wiggins misses layup
6-4 10:08 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope defensive rebound
6-4 10:04 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope misses two point shot
6-4 10:00 Jimmy Butler defensive rebound
6-4 9:57 Jeff Teague misses 23-foot three point jumper
6-4 9:47 Julius Randle defensive rebound
6-4 9:44 Andrew Wiggins shooting foul
6-5 9:44 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope makes free throw 1 of 2
6-6 9:44 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope makes free throw 2 of 2
6-6 9:09 Jimmy Butler misses 15-foot jumper
6-6 9:05 Lonzo Ball defensive rebound
6-6 8:59 Brandon Ingram misses 14-foot two point shot
6-6 8:52 Larry Nance Jr. offensive rebound
6-6 8:52 Larry Nance Jr. misses tip shot
6-6 8:51 Lonzo Ball offensive rebound
6-8 8:49 Brandon Ingram makes 21-foot jumper (Lonzo Ball assists)
6-8 8:37 Karl-Anthony Towns misses 17-foot two point shot
6-8 8:32 Julius Randle defensive rebound
6-8 8:17 Andrew Wiggins misses driving layup
6-8 8:16 Lakers Full timeout
6-8 8:15 Andrew Wiggins personal foul
6-8 8:13 Taj Gibson offensive rebound
6-8 8:13 Taj Gibson misses tip shot
$Bill <news@todbe.com>: Sep 30 06:24PM -0700

104 96 # wish they had a big playing this one
$Bill <news@todbe.com>: Sep 30 06:54PM -0700

On 09-30-17 18:24, $Bill wrote:
 
> 104  96   # wish they had a big playing this one
 
96 104 # reverse that
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