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Saturday, August 12, 2017

RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Aug 12 02:04PM -0700

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 1:30:15 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
> On 13/08/2017 2:18 AM, RaspingDrive wrote:
Limpy! That is a nice word. No offense meant, whisper.
 
> None taken. The more abuse I cop just means I'm winning arguments.
 
So long as it keeps you going on the strength of imagined wins, good for you.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Aug 12 02:07PM -0700

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 1:25:02 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
> I accept that people who faithfully consider 'slam count king' as goat
> will continue to think that way, but they are in a minority imo.
 
Continue prospering (read: languishing) in your own imagined (impoverished) world.
Manco <musefan2009@gmail.com>: Aug 12 11:54AM -0700

Not according to CNN/MSNBC crowd. To them Trump is the big danger in the world. If you listened to them, you would think North Korea is just a peaceful little country suddenly being threatened by the Orange guy.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Aug 12 09:04PM +0200

> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 8:44:43 PM UTC+2, Manco wrote:
>> guys, let's not pretend Trump is responsible for this mess. Bill Clinton had a chance to deal with North Korea in 1994 and let Jimmy Fucking Carter undermine our foreign policy. Then you had 16 years of Bush & Obama doing jack shit. Suddenly Trump is the one you are going to blame for this crisis that 23 years of previous administrations did nothing? Was Winston Churchill to blame for Hitler in 1940?
 
> No one blames the orange clown for this.
 
 
 
But what is the problem in the first place?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Aug 12 02:06PM -0700

There is no mess. North Korea is responding to Trumps threats. He keeps his trap shut and a huge costly war is avoided
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Aug 13 12:06AM +0300

he Brexit debate is an endless source of mirth for anyone with a dark
sense of humour. My favourite quote is from Michael Gove, Britain's
environment secretary.
 
Just before the EU referendum in June last year, Gove, then justice
secretary in David Cameron's government, dismissed the all-but-unanimous
view of economists and others that a decision to leave the EU would
deeply damage the British economy. "People in this country have had
enough of experts," Gove testily explained, referring to "experts from
organisations with acronyms, saying they know what is best and getting
it consistently wrong".
 
The early post-referendum evidence suggested, to the surprise of many –
or at least to many of the experts – that Gove was right and they were
wrong.
 
To explain this, observers pointed to the big post-referendum
depreciation of the pound, which promised to make British exports more
competitive. They suggested a UK freed of burdensome EU regulations
could offer a more business-friendly environment and lower corporate tax
rates, and thus become a magnet for foreign investment.
 
Most provocatively, they questioned predictions that the uncertainty
surrounding Brexit would have a profoundly adverse impact on economic
performance. Economists cannot measure uncertainty directly, they
reminded us, while proxies, like the frequency with which the term
appears in the financial press, do a poor job of capturing its effects.
 
ndeed, we economists have had little success at reliably predicting when
and why uncertainty arises. And there is little agreement on the
severity of its impact. Maybe we would be better off placing less weight
on the effects of uncertainty when making forecasts in general, and in
the case of Brexit in particular.
 
But this view looks rather less compelling with the passage of a couple
of additional quarters. British consumer confidence is down, with
spending in the second quarter of this year falling to its lowest level
in four years. The Bank forecasts a whopping 20% decline in business
investment in the coming years; Brexit's champions predicted the opposite.
 
The only surprise is that it took so long for the consequences to
materialise. It evidently took more time than expected for the
implications to sink in – to understand that "Brexit means Brexit," as
May's pithy tautology put it. It took time to realise that there would
be no smooth break with the EU and that negotiations would not be
wrapped up in two years. There might be no free-trade agreement, no
passporting rights for British banks seeking to do business in the EU,
and not even an agreement on landing rights for British aircraft on the
continent.
 
And now the chickens are coming home to roost with a vengeance (if
chickens could be vengeful). Consumers, seeing the pound depreciate,
front-loaded their spending in the second half of last year, because
they understood that import prices would rise. Having incurred
additional debt, they are in no position to continue spending at that
earlier pace.
 
Sterling's substantial depreciation, moreover, augurs a significant rise
in inflation, which means the Bank will have to start raising interest
rates sooner rather than later. The consequences for growth will not be
pretty. The Bank will no longer be the Brexiter's friend.
 
What the late, great MIT economist Rudi Dornbusch – that most expert of
experts – said about Mexico's peso crisis in the 1990s applies to the
damage from Brexit as well. A crisis, he noted, "takes a much longer
time coming than you think, and then it happens much faster than you
would have thought".
 
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/10/experts-strike-back-how-economists-proved-right-on-brexit
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 12 02:01PM -0700

...was clutch. So deep and spinny. Mighta won him the match.
Jason White <infiniti_g35_guy88@yahoo.com>: Aug 12 01:21PM -0700

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 4:47:09 PM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
> at USO or later or at all?
 
> I think he's done, but ?
 
If he had to always play peakest Djokovic, would he have won any? Nobody beats peakest Novak, not even Spanish caveman.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Aug 12 01:29PM -0700

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 4:21:06 PM UTC-4, Jason White wrote:
> > at USO or later or at all?
 
> > I think he's done, but ?
 
> If he had to always play peakest Djokovic, would he have won any? Nobody beats peakest Novak, not even Spanish caveman.
 
LOL. Peakest Djokovic could only win 2 USOs. Give me a break. *rolls eyes*
Jason White <infiniti_g35_guy88@yahoo.com>: Aug 12 01:39PM -0700

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 1:29:24 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> > > I think he's done, but ?
 
> > If he had to always play peakest Djokovic, would he have won any? Nobody beats peakest Novak, not even Spanish caveman.
 
> LOL. Peakest Djokovic could only win 2 USOs. Give me a break. *rolls eyes*
 
defeat federer h2h three straight finals: 2 wimbledon, 1 us open. when they played each other in big slam matches, djokovic tended to win. No way Federer wins 2017 slams vs. 2011-2016 Djokovic! yyyyaaaaaahhh
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Aug 12 11:43PM +0300

On 12/08/2017 23.29, Court_1 wrote:
 
>>> I think he's done, but ?
 
>> If he had to always play peakest Djokovic, would he have won any? Nobody beats peakest Novak, not even Spanish caveman.
 
> LOL. Peakest Djokovic could only win 2 USOs. Give me a break. *rolls eyes*
 
However, ... peakest Djok beat Rogi at USO. Every. Single. Time.
Jason White <infiniti_g35_guy88@yahoo.com>: Aug 12 01:46PM -0700

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 1:29:24 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> > > I think he's done, but ?
 
> > If he had to always play peakest Djokovic, would he have won any? Nobody beats peakest Novak, not even Spanish caveman.
 
> LOL. Peakest Djokovic could only win 2 USOs. Give me a break. *rolls eyes*
 
You must admit if Federer played anyone else in those 2014-15 finals, he would have won those. Add three more slams to this tally. Only peak Novak was good enough to make Federer question himself and not play his best.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Aug 12 01:58PM -0700

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 4:21:06 PM UTC-4, Jason White wrote:
> > at USO or later or at all?
 
> > I think he's done, but ?
 
> If he had to always play peakest Djokovic, would he have won any? Nobody beats peakest Novak, not even Spanish caveman.
 
Would you like to edit the statement since Stan beat peak Djok three times on two surfaces? He simply thrashed Djok in two of the three.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Aug 12 02:00PM -0700

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
 
> >> If he had to always play peakest Djokovic, would he have won any? Nobody beats peakest Novak, not even Spanish caveman.
 
> > LOL. Peakest Djokovic could only win 2 USOs. Give me a break. *rolls eyes*
 
> However, ... peakest Djok beat Rogi at USO. Every. Single. Time.
 
Djok beat Federer who beat Stan who beat Djok.
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Aug 12 11:10PM +0300

Mayor of Charlottesville Michael Signer said he was disappointed the
white nationalists had descended on his town and said responsibility lay
with Mr Trump for inflaming racial prejudices during his presidential
campaign last year.
 
He said: "I'm not going to make any bones about it. I place the blame
for a lot of what you're seeing in America today right at the doorstep
of the White House and the people around the President."
 
The clashes broke out at a "Unite the Right" protest over the decision
by the city's government to remove a statue of a Confederate general.
 
Several members of the Klu Klux Klan joined in with the protests as well
as various alt-right activists, militia groups and Confederate heritage
groups.
 
Mr Trump has repeatedly been accused of having stirred up racial
tensions in the country through his rhetoric on immigrants and his vow
to build a wall between the US and Mexico.
 
Officials in Charlottesville declared a state of emergency shortly after
11am local time as the clashes became more violent, with punches thrown
between rival groups and pepper spray released in the crowd.
 
Alt right journalist Jason Kessler in an interview: "This is about an
anti-white climate within the Western world and the need for white
people to have advocacy like other groups do."
 
More attendees are expected to flock to Charlottesville - normally a
quiet, liberal-leaning university city - by tomorrow.
 
http://www.independent.ie/incoming/donald-trump-accused-of-inflaming-racial-tensions-amid-violent-clashes-in-virginia-36026318.html
 
White supremacists seem to be unhappy folks. Sad.
Manco <musefan2009@gmail.com>: Aug 12 01:17PM -0700

Antifa seem to be unhappy folks. Sad.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Aug 12 10:19PM +0200


> He said: "I'm not going to make any bones about it. I place the blame
> for a lot of what you're seeing in America today right at the doorstep
> of the White House and the people around the President."
 
 
How is Trump to be blamed for today's protesters being attacked by
anti-protesters?
 
The mayor seems to be disgusting person.
 
 
I'd say it's actually his fault for these riots. He is trying to
remove Lee's monument, that's been there for decades and it's
part of history, and heritage. And he wanted to destroy it.

 
Mayor is a criminal.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Aug 12 03:51PM -0500

On 8/12/2017 3:19 PM, *skriptis wrote:
 
> How is Trump to be blamed for today's protesters being attacked by
> anti-protesters?
 
> The mayor seems to be disgusting person.
 
The euro-wimp should have said "Trump blamed by liberal democrat mayor
for violent clashes". Would have been more accurate.
 
But when has he ever been concerned with accuracy.
 
 
 
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joh <joshorst@gmail.com>: Aug 12 11:54AM -0700

Op zaterdag 12 augustus 2017 19:55:57 UTC+2 schreef Manco:
> Robin Haase was actually on the ATP Players Council with Rogie. He's even said that they are besties.
 
So, no-one will win?
Jason White <infiniti_g35_guy88@yahoo.com>: Aug 12 01:13PM -0700

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 9:01:28 AM UTC-7, Manco wrote:
> Look at the semis. Haase is Feddy's best buddy. Zverev & Shap literally have Feddy posters on their bedroom walls. Feddy has be laughing his ASS off right now.
 
> Feddy would love semis from here on out to be exactly like this. No Rafa, no Djoker, no Murray, no Del Potro. Nobody who actually can stand up to him and punch him in the mouth.
 
This happens when members of the Four are out. It's less interesting overall. This was the case last year, and now this year. Mainly because of there aren't as many marquee matchup possibilities. The youngsters haven't made enough of a push yet to make people believe their matches should be billed at that level.
TennisGuy <TGuy@techsavvy.com>: Aug 12 04:47PM -0400

On 8/12/2017 12:01 PM, Manco wrote:
 
> Feddy would love semis from here on out to be exactly like this. No
> Rafa, no Djoker, no Murray, no Del Potro. Nobody who actually can
> stand up to him and punch him in the mouth.
 
You my friend are looking at it the wrong way. Upside down.
 
Just be glad you can still watch Federer play now.
 
It's not Fed's fault that the other members of the big four can't show
up to this final.
 
When the big four are gone, you will be pining for the days Fed
played the likes of Zverev and Shap.
 
Fed is like a great grandfather to these young guys (tennis
generation-wise).
If they can't wipe him off the court what does it say?
Jason White <infiniti_g35_guy88@yahoo.com>: Aug 12 01:36PM -0700

On some level, these must be judgment calls from the scorers. Or does simply approaching the net for any reason make the point a net point?
calimero377@gmx.de: Aug 12 11:53AM -0700

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 8:08:49 PM UTC+2, TennisGuy wrote:
 
> > So good joke material.
 
> Right skriptis, this is far too deep for Max to comprehend. :)
 
 
Come on, tell us a little bit more about how Dubya blew up the WTC!
 
 
Max
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Aug 12 07:52PM +0100

On 12/08/2017 18:38, Brian W Lawrence wrote:
>> policy?
 
> What's next? Khruschev withdrew the missiles, JFK was assassinated,
> Khruschev was replaced, etc., etc., etc.
 
I meant to add that before Italy & Turkey had Jupiters the UK had US
Thors (from Aug 1958).
 
At the time the UK populace were advised that in the event of an attack
there was about 4 mins before missiles reached the UK - termed the
'4-minute warning'. London-Moscow is about 2,500km, Italy (Rome) is
about 2,400km from Moscow, and Turkey (Ankara) about 1,800km.
Turkey would have been a much shorter flightime, although I doubt
that it would be strategically significant -2m instead of 4m.
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 13 03:28AM +1000

On 13/08/2017 2:12 AM, John Liang wrote:
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> How much prize money do you think for a player winning GS without beating a top 4 player in a 12 months period?
 
Good point. Obviously the system needs to be fine tuned. A slam winner
deserves full prizemoney no matter who he beats. It's these
professional clowns running around cashing checks & treating this like a
business, disrespecting tennis fans with poor effort etc
 
 
 
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