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Sunday, August 6, 2017

MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net>: Aug 06 12:31AM -0700

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 8:49:55 PM UTC+3, bob wrote:
 
> but wait, how can a man with 15 slams and an OG rank below a man with
> 14 slams and no OG?
 
> bob
 
I have never been a slam whore. Slams have a big impact for sure but there are other things too.
 
Sampras > Nadal *key* reasoning
- Wimb
- US
- YEC
- #1 stats
 
Nadal > Sampras *key* reasoning
- FO
- Career slam
- OG
- Master series/Super nines
 
Sampras' part of the scale looks a bit heavier.
 
.mikko
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 05 07:49PM -0700

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 5:02:01 PM UTC-7, Patrick Kehoe wrote:
 
 
> Although, if Federer were never to win another major, having won Wimbeldon as his first and his last would provide a symmerty of a kind.
 
> P
 
 
Yeah, Nineteen is nice; first and last at the tennis world championships is fitting for the Great Man.
 

"it's all gravy now"
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Aug 06 12:27AM -0700

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 10:49:32 PM UTC-4, Carey wrote:
 
> > P
 
> Yeah, Nineteen is nice; first and last at the tennis world championships is fitting for the Great Man.
 
> "it's all gravy now"
 
Rafa will surely catch 19, so Fed should go for 23 with 10 W's and 6 USO's and AO's each.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 05 06:39PM -0700

On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 4:07:44 AM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
 
> You do realize the 2 times Fed beat Agassi at USO were much tougher than
> all 4 times Sampras beat Agassi right? Fed labored harder v Agassi at
> USO than Sampras ever did.
 
You do realize that straight after those matches, an idiot named Whisper said if it was not for the windy condition Agassi would not even come close to threaten Federer. Was that idiot Whisper the same Whisper ? Also Agassi's best performing slam was AO and he beat Sampras twice, Sampras labored hard just to get to five sets and still lost, Federer beat Agassi in straight sets.
 
>Indeed old Agassi even smashed Federer in
> straights at 2001 USO. If Fed was 'too young' in 2001, how come Sampras
> won USO at same age, beating 4 world No.1's & smashing Agassi in the final?
 
Federer was near 20, old Agassi was still ranked higher than a young Federer and was a great player with vast grand slam experience, what about Sampras losing to potential Wimbledon great like Christo Van Rensburg or Derrick Rostagno around the same age.
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 05 07:22PM -0700

Wimbledon 1991: 19 year old Pete Sampras loses to nobody Derrick Rostagno in 2r.
 
Wimbledon 2001: 19 year old Roger Federer beats seven-time and defending champion Pete Sampras in fourth round on Center Court, in front of God and
everybody...
 
 
Bwahahahaha
MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net>: Aug 06 12:11AM -0700

On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 3:03:28 AM UTC+3, Shakes wrote:
 
> http://web.archive.org/web/19991122183359/championships.wimbledon.org/scores/stats/day14/0127ms.html
 
> More info here:
 
> https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/incorrect-atp-stats-a-survey.207411/
 
I had some info about this but I though it applied mostly to early 90:ies. Thanks.
 
.mikko
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Aug 06 12:22AM -0700

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 2:07:44 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
> fortunate to have this direct evidence, rather than just making stuff up
> in coulda/woulda land.
 
> : )
 
What a wasted effort. I have said Sampras is in the select list of GOAT contenders, so what is the problem? That I should not hold the view that the Sampras vs Agassi match-up was nothing to rave about and that Sampras had all the cards to destroy Agassi every single time at W and USO?
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 06 05:22AM +0300

bob kirjoitti 6.8.2017 klo 5:08:
>> googling it up? You can't. Now THAT was a real 'nothingburger'.
 
> i just did. no foogling.
 
> bob
 
What did Hillary do which was found out from Podesta emails?
 
Since I don't remember a damn thing coming out of them. (apart from
random manufactured nothinburgers)
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 05 07:23PM -0700

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 7:22:33 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
 
 
 
> What did Hillary do which was found out from Podesta emails?
 
> Since I don't remember a damn thing coming out of them. (apart from
> random manufactured nothinburgers)
 
 
 
remembering is hard
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Aug 05 10:27PM -0400


>> i just did. no foogling.
 
>> bob
 
>What did Hillary do which was found out from Podesta emails?
 
podesta's emails were the reason hillary's email server was exposed.
and what she did on her email server i just explained to you.
 
she broke laws and acted in complete disregard for an accepted method
of gov't communications just by having it, and did something any other
employee would be fired or prosecuted for.
 
and she did it for paranoid control hunger power thirsty reasons - she
knew she was running long ago and wanted to make sure she never
slipped up and let her email in gov't control, not her own control.
this is obvious stuff TT, c'mon.
 
>Since I don't remember a damn thing coming out of them. (apart from
>random manufactured nothinburgers)
 
she deleted 33,000 of them. after having them for MONTHS. i reckon
those were the ones that had "nothing on them."
 
bob
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 06 05:52AM +0300

bob kirjoitti 6.8.2017 klo 5:27:
 
>>> bob
 
>> What did Hillary do which was found out from Podesta emails?
 
> podesta's emails were the reason hillary's email server was exposed.
 
That was obviously the fault of Russian hackers and Clinton herself, not
really podesta's.
 
Podesta emails were released on October and November 2016... a bunch of
nothingburgers dripped and twisted & exaggerated by right wing media. No
reason to hate Podesta.
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 05 08:03PM -0700

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 7:52:44 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
 
> > podesta's emails were the reason hillary's email server was exposed.
 
> That was obviously the fault of Russian hackers and Clinton herself, not
> really podesta's.
 
ROOSKIES! Another evidence-free post.
 
The DNC, whose contractor Crowdstrike made the claim of Russian! hacking,
very curiously wouldn't allow the FBI to examine their servers for, y'know,
actual evidence of hacking, Russian or otherwise...
 
odd
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 06 06:08AM +0300

bob kirjoitti 6.8.2017 klo 5:27:
> podesta's emails were the reason hillary's email server was exposed.
 
No.
 
...Clinton's private email server was exposed March 2015.
...Podesta's GMAIL account was hacked in March 2016.
 
"Emails sent to Clinton's private clintonemail.com address were first
discovered in March 2013, when a hacker named "Guccifer" widely
distributed emails sent to Clinton from Sidney Blumenthal, which
Guccifer obtained by illegally accessing Blumenthal's email account."
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 06 06:11AM +0300

Carey kirjoitti 6.8.2017 klo 6:03:
> very curiously wouldn't allow the FBI to examine their servers for, y'know,
> actual evidence of hacking, Russian or otherwise...
 
> odd
 
Sounds like another 911 conspiracy you have cooking there.
Besides, Podesta emails had nothing to do with DNC hack ffs.
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 05 08:18PM -0700

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 8:11:40 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
 
> > odd
 
> Sounds like another 911 conspiracy you have cooking there.
> Besides, Podesta emails had nothing to do with DNC hack ffs.
 

 
you're dissembling again, Titty, and it's not good for you!
 
How's Mum?
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 06 06:20AM +0300

Carey kirjoitti 6.8.2017 klo 6:18:
 
> you're dissembling again, Titty, and it's not good for you!
 
> How's Mum?
 
Take another beer...
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 05 08:22PM -0700

You're a WaPoo lover, so here's a bit from that rag on ISDS:
 
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kill-the-dispute-settlement-language-in-the-trans-pacific-partnership/2015/02/25/ec7705a2-bd1e-11e4-b274-e5209a3bc9a9_story.html
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 05 08:32PM -0700

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 8:20:30 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:

> > you're dissembling again, Titty, and it's not good for you!
 
> > How's Mum?
 
> Take another beer...
 
 
touchy
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Aug 06 03:52AM +0100

On 05/08/2017 20:10, The Iceberg wrote:
 
>>> no, seen it many on times on news.bbc.co.uk
 
>> Wow, that's totally like convincing.
 
> yeah I know, thanks! next time I see one, will post it for you, how about that.
 
Thanks, that would be useful.
 
 
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bob <bob@nospam.net>: Aug 05 10:23PM -0400

>> beneficial "favor" btw.
 
>Just because one doesn't give anything in exchange for stolen property
>doesn't make receiving it ok.
 
both parties wanted all the information they could get without
breaking the law themselves in getting it. these 2 big parties work
like that.
 
if they happened to be given a stolen gun taken from the clinton
residence that had hillary's fingerprints on a murder weapon, surely
it's fair game.
 
this is not a court of law where a person is being tried for a crime,
and must follow due process, this is an election where we'd like to
know what's going on with our PUBLIC officials and it's all public's
perception of who they'd like to vote for, and all information is
relevant.
 
if TRUMP himself or he ordered an illegal hacking or break in, that'd
be far different. but that's not what happened.
 
>> congress hates him that much, anyone can be impeached for any reason.
>> just like any war against WMD can be started for any reason.
 
>I guess Trump wanted sanctions off out of goodness of his heart then...
 
no, i think he wanted a fresh slate with russia and thought maybe
lifting sanctions could start that process.
 
>Rest of the free world & US congress didn't agree.
 
US congress, and hillary, agreed on WMD too silly.
 
 
>> tea.
 
>> bob
 
>I know how it's spelled...
 
tee time.
drink tea.
 
bob
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 06 05:32AM +0300

bob kirjoitti 6.8.2017 klo 5:10:
 
> i think trump came into power thinking that an adversarial relation
> with russia was no longer in the usa's best interests and acted
> accordingly.
 
You think? Russia isn't a big partner for USA as other countries Trump
has been pissing on. He's been ripping every partner of USA while loving
Russia.
 
You are that naive to buy Trump's 'why can't we be friends with Russia'
and not suspect lifting sanctions was his part of the deal/compromat?
 
> i myself couldn't figure out why we've carried on this
> long to begin with. while germany and japan build cars, hospitals,
> roads and bullet trains.
 
Well Europe and US congress don't agree.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 06 05:36AM +0300

bob kirjoitti 6.8.2017 klo 5:11:
 
>> You should also watch No Way Out (1987).
 
> costner as the mole? seen it twice. nice love story. :-)
 
> bob
 
What's the big deal with that film, one mole? Now the president & his
cabinet are all moles...
 
Best joke of all was Carter Page, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort & Rex
Tillerson. If that staff wasn't decided by Kremlin...
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 06 05:37AM +0300

TT kirjoitti 6.8.2017 klo 5:13:
 
>> tea.
 
>> bob
 
> I know how it's spelled...
 
So were they just having tea and talking abortions? Flynn at least didn't.
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 05 07:41PM -0700

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 7:36:26 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> cabinet are all moles...
 
> Best joke of all was Carter Page, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort & Rex
> Tillerson. If that staff wasn't decided by Kremlin...
 
 
 
You are right. The other wing of the Party, called Democrats, hide their
criminal associations much better than does Mr. Trump, and are much smoother/
"classier" as well. That the Ruling Class's real issue with Mr. Trump:
he makes the grift apparent, and that's why he's better for the country, now,
than the Clinton Cabal. Embrace the slimy grift!
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Aug 06 05:41AM +0300

bob kirjoitti 6.8.2017 klo 5:23:
> both parties wanted all the information they could get without
> breaking the law themselves in getting it.
 
That's rubbish. Russia did the hacks.
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