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Thursday, August 10, 2017

The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 10 01:49PM -0700

On Thursday, 10 August 2017 19:33:05 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
> and terrorist incubator there?
 
> The only logical conclusion is they wanted to flood Europe with
> millions of Africans that are coming through ex-Libya now.
 
yes, but that is the only logical explanation OR it's that Obama/Hillary were just totally incompetent.
calimero377@gmx.de: Aug 10 02:16PM -0700

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 6:23:06 PM UTC+2, The Iceberg wrote:
> Please shut up pretending you care in the least bit about refugees or the Middle East, when you supported Obama and Hillary's destruction of Libya and causing the biggest refugee disaster in 100 years, which they did for nothing except to try to get rid of Russia's last Middle East base and to make a name for themselves.
 
Which Russian Middle East base, Trumpette?
 
 
Max
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Aug 10 04:17PM -0500

>On 8/8/2017 9:35 AM, Carey wrote:
> Interesting ideas here, quite counter to the mainstream Narrative™:
 
> https://straightlinelogic.com/2017/08/06/is-trump-winning-by-robert-gore/
 
Trump completely dominates the political discourse. 100% Trump all the time.
 
 
 
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bob <bob@nospam.net>: Aug 10 07:49PM -0400

>> Interesting ideas here, quite counter to the mainstream Narrative™:
 
>> https://straightlinelogic.com/2017/08/06/is-trump-winning-by-robert-gore/
 
>Trump completely dominates the political discourse. 100% Trump all the time.
 
steve, i've have never in my life seen anyone in so many people's
heads as trump. it is hilarious. he's is on every landscape,
hollywood, washington, ny, the news, texas hills, you name it it's the
traveling trump show. just today, jennifer lawrence saying she wants
to say "F You to trump." hahah.
 
i swear if he was a tennis player, you'd have the opponent talking to
himself before, during and after the match.
 
bob
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 10 01:51PM -0700

On Wednesday, 9 August 2017 09:42:11 UTC+1, joh wrote:
 
> > --
> I don't think there'll be another opportunity to vote for Trump.
> Or are you suggesting small dick Donald is still busy trying to win the popular vote in the latest elections?
 
you voted twice for Hillary, how hilarious!!
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 10 01:51PM -0700

On Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:51:04 UTC+1, joh wrote:
> > insecurities.
 
> lol
> poor bob
 
you actually voted...FOR HILLARY!!! LOL
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 10 01:52PM -0700

> > take diversity training in europe?
 
> > bob
 
> Diversity training? What the hell is that?
 
Diversity is an old, old, wooden ship, used in the Spanish civil war.
calimero377@gmx.de: Aug 10 02:14PM -0700

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 10:52:31 PM UTC+2, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> > > bob
 
> > Diversity training? What the hell is that?
 
> Diversity is an old, old, wooden ship, used in the Spanish civil war.
 
US civil war, dummy ...
 
 
Max
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Aug 10 07:45PM -0400

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 09:50:46 -0700 (PDT), joh <joshorst@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>> insecurities.
 
>lol
>poor bob
 
methinks poor joh.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Aug 10 07:44PM -0400

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:58:25 +0300, Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los>
wrote:
 
>> provoked nuts.
 
>Of course, for bob, being nuts is now kosher. Just because Trump happens
>to be nuts.
 
act nuts; don't be nuts.
 
bob
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Aug 10 01:28PM -0700

Federer is tanking to save himself for the USO.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Aug 10 03:07PM -0700

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 4:28:24 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Federer is tanking to save himself for the USO.
 
Yeah, he tanked so hard that he won the match! *rolls eyes*
 
He wasn't tanking. He played a poor match. It happens more often when you're 36! Why would he tank in Montreal? He didn't play the entire clay season so he's well rested. He's trying to find his groove on hard courts and trying to work his way into the tournament.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Aug 10 03:17PM -0700

> Why would he tank in Montreal?
 
 
It's useless for him, slow courts, balls are flying, doesn't add value to his preperation to the US Open.
 
Hope he loses.
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 10 04:03PM -0700

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> It's useless for him, slow courts, balls are flying, doesn't add value to his preperation to the US Open.
 
> Hope he loses.
 
 
Based on what I saw of the Ferrer match, you might be right about all that.
AZ <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com>: Aug 10 04:28PM -0700

On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 12:48:19 AM UTC+6, Court_1 wrote:
> As much as I root for Federer when he plays Nadal and some long awaited revenge has been nice to watch, I don't want to see any lopsided rivalries between all time great players. Federer appears to have Nadal's number off clay but I doubt Federer will beat Nadal the next 10 times in a row(if Nadal can make it to Federer in the first place) because I think Nadal's too good to let that happen. Remember the AO 2017 final was down to the wire.
 
> Watching close finals between the two is more preferable to watching beatdowns either way for me. I want to see the battle between them and the element of surprise to be in play. It's much more satisfying that way IMO.
 
Disagree. I am a Fed fan and I want him to beat Nadal over and over again. Prefererably not close matches. I had no problem Fed wiping the floor with Hewitt and Roddick. Same with Nadal. I am not a "close battle" fan just for the sake of it. If some of the matches are close, or all of them, or none of them, I don't care. All I care is that Fed beats him 10 in a row from here on. That's the ideal scenario for me. H2h in favor of Fed, overall.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Aug 10 07:28PM -0400

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 09:40:58 -0700 (PDT), Patrick Kehoe
 
>Rafa has been "all business" since he arrived in Canada. Friends of mine who are covering the Rogers Cup in Montreal tell me he's been stone faced and focused all week so far, at practice, walking the grounds and with most of the media. The sense some are taking away from his keen business approach centers around the perception that Rafa sees the Rogers Cup as a likely showdown venue against Federer. Having spoken with a member of the Nadal camp, one of my former writers tells me Rafa has been preping to try and put an end to Federer's run of wins against him ASAP, meaning in Montreal, should they make the final. Also, Rafa feels that his draw stacks up as one of the most challenging he's faced at a Masters level event this season.
 
rafa needs to focus on making the final first.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Aug 10 07:29PM -0400

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:42:53 -0700 (PDT), Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>
wrote:
 
>Federer's thirty-six.
 
40 is the new 30. i heard. :-)
 
bob
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Aug 10 04:44PM -0700

> 40 is the new 30. i heard. :-)
 
And 30 is the new 20
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 10 02:16PM -0700

On Wednesday, 9 August 2017 09:10:56 UTC+1, AZ wrote:
 
> > > Check out German player Mischa Zverev. He is ranked 25 in the world. He serves and volleys a lot.
 
> > yeah with a decent serve, it's still easily possible to serve and volley, this guy, Fed(even though his volleys aren't particularly good),
 
> Uninformed opinion. Fed's volleys are very good on average, but sometimes he makes silly coordination and positioning mistakes. He just didn't hone this particular skill to absolute perfection. Nevertheless, his volley attempt numbers and volley win ratio is very, very good compared to the field as a whole, which is easily backed by stats. And his reaction time at the net is very fast.
 
nah it's fact, formed from years of watching and knowledge of tennis. It's why I was the first to point out Fed's poor volleying techniques/kills over 10 years ago and the Fedfans went wild at me BUT they could NEVER dispute my point. His fh stomp volley was a total joke, he's improved a slight bit the past few years since Edberg, but Nadal and Murray are better than him.
AZ <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com>: Aug 10 04:31PM -0700

On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 3:16:37 AM UTC+6, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> > > yeah with a decent serve, it's still easily possible to serve and volley, this guy, Fed(even though his volleys aren't particularly good),
 
> > Uninformed opinion. Fed's volleys are very good on average, but sometimes he makes silly coordination and positioning mistakes. He just didn't hone this particular skill to absolute perfection. Nevertheless, his volley attempt numbers and volley win ratio is very, very good compared to the field as a whole, which is easily backed by stats. And his reaction time at the net is very fast.
 
> nah it's fact, formed from years of watching and knowledge of tennis.
 
No. You are wrong.
 
 
It's why I was the first to point out Fed's poor volleying techniques/kills over 10 years ago and the Fedfans went wild at me BUT they could NEVER dispute my point. His fh stomp volley was a total joke, he's improved a slight bit the past few years since Edberg, but Nadal and Murray are better than him.
 
Your cute anecdotes and unwarranted confidence in your wrong opinion means nothing. You're wrong.
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Aug 10 04:38PM -0700

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 7:31:42 PM UTC-4, AZ wrote:
 
> No. You are wrong.
 
> It's why I was the first to point out Fed's poor volleying techniques/kills over 10 years ago and the Fedfans went wild at me BUT they could NEVER dispute my point. His fh stomp volley was a total joke, he's improved a slight bit the past few years since Edberg, but Nadal and Murray are better than him.
 
> Your cute anecdotes and unwarranted confidence in your wrong opinion means nothing. You're wrong.
 
Cheeseburger, pepsi!
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Aug 10 01:53PM -0700

> > You guys talk about nuking as if it is some child's play. What about the millions of innocents who will die and millions others who will suffer the consequences of radiation?
 
> "What about the hundreds of thousand who will die if we have war with Germany?"
> (Neville Chamberlain, London, 1938)
 
we forget Pelle and max are completely TERRIFIED that there'll be a nuclear war cos of Trump! LOL
calimero377@gmx.de: Aug 10 02:15PM -0700

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 10:53:24 PM UTC+2, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> > "What about the hundreds of thousand who will die if we have war with Germany?"
> > (Neville Chamberlain, London, 1938)
 
> we forget Pelle and max are completely TERRIFIED that there'll be a nuclear war cos of Trump! LOL
 
 
Which max?
 
 
Max
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Aug 10 07:32PM -0400

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:36:49 +0100, Gerrit Rijtoopje <me@privacy.net>
wrote:
 
 
>>if they did that to their own korean brothers then what does that tell
>>you about them and what they deserve.
 
>1861 - 1865
 
who dropped nuclear bombs in 1861-1865?
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Aug 10 07:37PM -0400

>several times "If we have nuclear weapons why can't we use them".
 
>Trump is apparently seriously deliberating a nuclear first strike. You
>see already Bob & Jaros sort of siding with Trump on the matter.
 
wtf, i'm a near pacifist, i voted against hillary hawk!
 
but i have an open mind. there are cases where preemptive strikes are
incredibly valuable. i think the strike on the near vacant syrian air
strip was perfect. this may - or may not - be 1 of them. jury is
surely out, it's too early.
 
>to respond if they think that USA might do a first strike?!?
>...The point is that Trump's attempts to escalate SHOULD be criticized
>by the media.
 
my gosh, trump breathing is criticized by the media. sheesh.
 
>pretty big risk. Even 1% chance of pre-emptive strike from one side or
>another is not acceptable. USA should be the adult in the room, while
>North Korea is truly twisted country.
 
bad analogy. what does the adult do when his kids throw things against
the wall?
 
>imagine all the nuclear states fearing the real possibility of first
>strike. What would that lead to...
>Kim is unlikely to commit mass suicide doing first strike. How about Trump?
 
bob
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