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Sunday, August 13, 2017

Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Aug 13 11:06AM -0700

Listen to him on a CNN interview today. Yeah there was the typical Trump hate, with him saying that he wished the stock market would crash. But… he did manage to say something true and profound. He railed against the PC portion of the Democratic Party and claimed that is a key reason why Trump won and manages full support from the Republican Party. The alternative is repugnant to most normal Americans. It's certainly resonates with me. As much as I wish Trump was presidential, I am nauseated by the antics of those who want to turn this country into socialism and ultra PC safe zones. Each week there is one example of another of ridiculous "offenses" and consequences. The firing of Jeffrey Lord. The Google memo. The intolerance within college campuses. Is it any wonder why the working class no longer support the Democratic Party.
Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Aug 13 02:27PM -0400

On 08/13/2017 02:06 PM, Dene wrote:
 
> Listen to him on a CNN interview today. Yeah there was the typical Trump hate, with him saying that he wished the stock market would crash. But… he did manage to say something true and profound. He railed against the PC portion of the Democratic Party and claimed that is a key reason why Trump won and manages full support from the Republican Party. The alternative is repugnant to most normal Americans. It's certainly resonates with me. As much as I wish Trump was presidential, I am nauseated by the antics of those who want to turn this country into socialism and ultra PC safe zones. Each week there is one example of another of ridiculous "offenses" and consequences. The firing of Jeffrey Lord. The Google memo. The intolerance within college campuses. Is it any wonder why the working class no longer support the Democratic Party.

 
I don't watch CNN or Maher, but I do find myself wondering if your hate is blinding your objectivity.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Aug 13 11:50AM -0700

On 08/13/2017 02:06 PM, Dene wrote:
 
> Listen to him on a CNN interview today. Yeah there was the typical Trump hate, with him saying that he wished the stock market would crash. But… he did manage to say something true and profound. He railed against the PC portion of the Democratic Party and claimed that is a key reason why Trump won and manages full support from the Republican Party. The alternative is repugnant to most normal Americans. It's certainly resonates with me. As much as I wish Trump was presidential, I am nauseated by the antics of those who want to turn this country into socialism and ultra PC safe zones. Each week there is one example of another of ridiculous "offenses" and consequences. The firing of Jeffrey Lord. The Google memo. The intolerance within college campuses. Is it any wonder why the working class no longer support the Democratic Party.

 
I don't watch CNN or Maher, but I do find myself wondering if your hate is blinding your objectivity.
 
No hate....just disgust.
BK@Onramp.net: Aug 13 02:42PM -0500

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 11:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
 
>> Listen to him on a CNN interview today. Yeah there was the typical Trump hate, with him saying that he wished the stock market would crash. But… he did manage to say something true and profound. He railed against the PC portion of the Democratic Party and claimed that is a key reason why Trump won and manages full support from the Republican Party. The alternative is repugnant to most normal Americans. It's certainly resonates with me. As much as I wish Trump was presidential, I am nauseated by the antics of those who want to turn this country into socialism and ultra PC safe zones. Each week there is one example of another of ridiculous "offenses" and consequences. The firing of Jeffrey Lord. The Google memo. The intolerance within college campuses. Is it any wonder why the working class no longer support the Democratic Party.
 
>I don't watch CNN or Maher, but I do find myself wondering if your hate is blinding your objectivity.
 
>No hate....just disgust.
 
That's my feeling for Trump, but you call it hate. You don't allow
others the same as you demand. What is that called?
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Aug 13 12:45PM -0700

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 11:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
wrote:
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That's my feeling for Trump, but you call it hate. You don't allow
others the same as you demand. What is that called?
 
A clear distinction in rhetoric.
BK@Onramp.net: Aug 13 03:17PM -0500

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:45:41 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>That's my feeling for Trump, but you call it hate. You don't allow
>others the same as you demand. What is that called?
 
>A clear distinction in rhetoric.
Yes, there is a clear distinction. Hypocrisy.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Aug 13 02:12PM -0700

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:45:41 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>That's my feeling for Trump, but you call it hate. You don't allow
>others the same as you demand. What is that called?
 
>A clear distinction in rhetoric.
Yes, there is a clear distinction. Hypocrisy.
 
The worst I've called Obama was an empty soon. How does that compare to the rhetoric you and Carbs and other people have used about Trump. I'll make it easy for you. There is no comparison. Hatred versus disgust.
Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Aug 13 05:24PM -0400

On 08/13/2017 02:50 PM, Dene wrote:
 
>>> Listen to him on a CNN interview today. Yeah there was the typical Trump hate, with him saying that he wished the stock market would crash. But… he did manage to say something true and profound. He railed against the PC portion of the Democratic Party and claimed that is a key reason why Trump won and manages full support from the Republican Party. The alternative is repugnant to most normal Americans. It's certainly resonates with me.. As much as I wish Trump was presidential, I am nauseated by the antics of those who want to turn this country into socialism and ultra PC safe zones.. Each week there is one example of another of ridiculous "offenses" and consequences. The firing of Jeffrey Lord. The Google memo. The intolerance within college campuses. Is it any wonder why the working class no longer support the Democratic Party.
 
>> I don't watch CNN or Maher, but I do find myself wondering if your hate is blinding your objectivity.
 
> No hate....just disgust.
 
AKA: hate.
BK@Onramp.net: Aug 13 04:37PM -0500

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:12:56 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
 
>>A clear distinction in rhetoric.
>Yes, there is a clear distinction. Hypocrisy.
 
>The worst I've called Obama was an empty soon. How does that compare to the rhetoric you and Carbs and other people have used about Trump. I'll make it easy for you. There is no comparison. Hatred versus disgust.
 
As stated before, your opinion of the distinction is self-serving. I
have said many times that I don't hate anyone and you don't have the
ability or right to tell me (or Carbs) what we think or what our words
mean. The content isn't about Obama vs. Trump but show me where I was
wrong about him in any way. Not hatred but repugnance.
 
Regarding the Charlottesville riot; your words are a clear indication
that you think both sides are wrong and that isn't an opinion but your
actual words. How can you possibly think that any Nazi loving
organization wouldn't be the wrong side in that situation?
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Aug 13 02:38PM -0700

On 08/13/2017 02:50 PM, Dene wrote:
 
>>> Listen to him on a CNN interview today. Yeah there was the typical Trump hate, with him saying that he wished the stock market would crash. But… he did manage to say something true and profound. He railed against the PC portion of the Democratic Party and claimed that is a key reason why Trump won and manages full support from the Republican Party. The alternative is repugnant to most normal Americans. It's certainly resonates with me.. As much as I wish Trump was presidential, I am nauseated by the antics of those who want to turn this country into socialism and ultra PC safe zones.. Each week there is one example of another of ridiculous "offenses" and consequences. The firing of Jeffrey Lord. The Google memo. The intolerance within college campuses. Is it any wonder why the working class no longer support the Democratic Party.
 
>> I don't watch CNN or Maher, but I do find myself wondering if your hate is blinding your objectivity.
 
> No hate....just disgust.
 
AKA: hate.
 
There is no comparison between the insults you have levied toward President Trump and what I have sad about President Obama. You have gone so far as to insult his daughter. Recall the crude discussion you had about her breasts.
 
That is hate speech and typical of the elitist left.
Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Aug 13 05:41PM -0400

On 08/13/2017 05:12 PM, Dene wrote:
 
>> A clear distinction in rhetoric.
 
> Yes, there is a clear distinction. Hypocrisy.
 
> The worst I've called Obama was an empty soon. How does that compare to the rhetoric you and Carbs and other people have used about Trump. I'll make it easy for you. There is no comparison. Hatred versus disgust.
 
And you're suggesting that hatred and disgust are different in some meaningful way? I have popcorn, please elaborate.

You've leveled the empty suit charge at Obama many times and I still don't know what you mean. Would he have been more effective if he had gotten in Twitter wars with celebrities, world leaders and crackpots, as Trump is doing? Please share one reality-based, non-bullshit metric where Trump has been a better president than Obama.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Aug 13 02:50PM -0700

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As stated before, your opinion of the distinction is self-serving. I
have said many times that I don't hate anyone and you don't have the
ability or right to tell me (or Carbs) what we think or what our words
mean. The content isn't about Obama vs. Trump but show me where I was
wrong about him in any way. Not hatred but repugnance.
 
Your parsing words but I'll use repugnance instead of hate. Bottom line. He's our president and you should get over it.
 
Regarding the Charlottesville riot; your words are a clear indication
that you think both sides are wrong and that isn't an opinion but your
actual words. How can you possibly think that any Nazi loving
organization wouldn't be the wrong side in that situation?
 
Those idiots are clearly wrong. Responding to them in the form of a counter protest is the wrong tactic. They should just be ignored. Why do you disagree with that?
BK@Onramp.net: Aug 13 04:53PM -0500

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:38:09 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
 
>> No hate....just disgust.
 
>AKA: hate.
 
>There is no comparison between the insults you have levied toward President Trump and what I have sad about President Obama.
Charlottesville has nothing to do with Obama. Nothing.
 
>You have gone so far as to insult his daughter. Recall the crude discussion you had about her breasts.
>That is hate speech and typical of the elitist left.
 
Do you remember the crude discussion that your president had about
women's pussies?
BK@Onramp.net: Aug 13 04:56PM -0500

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:50:14 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>mean. The content isn't about Obama vs. Trump but show me where I was
>wrong about him in any way. Not hatred but repugnance.
 
>Your parsing words but I'll use repugnance instead of hate. Bottom line. He's our president and you should get over it.
 
Bottom line. He's a low life and being President doesn't change that.
>actual words. How can you possibly think that any Nazi loving
>organization wouldn't be the wrong side in that situation?
 
>Those idiots are clearly wrong. Responding to them in the form of a counter protest is the wrong tactic. They should just be ignored. Why do you disagree with that?
 
I wouldn't but it's their Constitutional right to counter protest.
Get over it.
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Aug 13 12:06PM -0700

Trump's daughter and son-in-law are Jewish. The neo-Nazis,
Klansmen and white supremacists who descended on
Charlottesville last night chanted anti-Semitic slogans,
like "Jews will not replace us!" Yet not even that - NOT
EVEN THAT! - compelled Trump to condemn them. He said
"all sides" were equally to blame. Why? Because he didn't
want to alienate the racists, Jew-haters and assorted other
scum of the earth who support him. It was he who brought
them out from under their rocks.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Aug 13 12:33PM -0700

Trump's daughter and son-in-law are Jewish. The neo-Nazis,
Klansmen and white supremacists who descended on
Charlottesville last night chanted anti-Semitic slogans,
like "Jews will not replace us!" Yet not even that - NOT
EVEN THAT! - compelled Trump to condemn them. He said
"all sides" were equally to blame. Why? Because he didn't
want to alienate the racists, Jew-haters and assorted other
scum of the earth who support him. It was he who brought
them out from under their rocks.
 
He said all the necessary words. Satisfying those who will always hate him is a black hole. Furthermore, there is hate on all sides.
 
150 idiots gathered from across the country and legally protested. That should've been ignored. Instead they won, drawing all sorts of attention to themselves, which is what they wanted.
 
In a small way, it's like feeding the idiot troll in this room.
BK@Onramp.net: Aug 13 03:02PM -0500

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:33:13 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>scum of the earth who support him. It was he who brought
>them out from under their rocks.
 
>He said all the necessary words.
 
Words that insured his keeping the KKK's White Nationalists and
alt-right votes. He knows that the opposite side won't vote for him so
dodge.
 
>Satisfying those who will always hate him is a black hole. Furthermore, there is hate on all sides.
 
Which side do you hate Greg? To most thinking there's only one answer
but you seem to think differently. The black hole is discrimination.
 
>150 idiots gathered from across the country and legally protested. That should've been ignored. Instead they won, drawing all sorts of attention to themselves, which is what they wanted.
 
And weren't upbraided for it. Even with the murder on their side.
 
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Aug 13 01:10PM -0700

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:33:13 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>scum of the earth who support him. It was he who brought
>them out from under their rocks.
 
>He said all the necessary words.
 
Words that insured his keeping the KKK's White Nationalists and
alt-right votes. He knows that the opposite side won't vote for him so
dodge.
 
BS. A thousand votes at the most. That's quite a stretch, even by your standards.
 
>Satisfying those who will always hate him is a black hole. Furthermore, there is hate on all sides.
 
Which side do you hate Greg? To most thinking there's only one answer
but you seem to think differently. The black hole is discrimination.
 
I have no use for elitist hate or racist hate.
 
>150 idiots gathered from across the country and legally protested. That should've been ignored. Instead they won, drawing all sorts of attention to themselves, which is what they wanted.
 
And weren't upbraided for it. Even with the murder on their side.
 
Read his words carefully. Try to be objective.
 
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BK@Onramp.net: Aug 13 03:21PM -0500

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
 
>>150 idiots gathered from across the country and legally protested. That should've been ignored. Instead they won, drawing all sorts of attention to themselves, which is what they wanted.
 
>And weren't upbraided for it. Even with the murder on their side.
 
>Read his words carefully. Try to be objective.
 
Even though you aren't, right? You might want to check the fact that
many conservative Republicans thought that Trump fucked up. The only
person that I saw on TV that approved was David Duke.
 
You've taken the same stand. That's pitiful.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Aug 13 02:18PM -0700

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
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Even though you aren't, right? You might want to check the fact that
many conservative Republicans thought that Trump fucked up. The only
person that I saw on TV that approved was David Duke.
 
You've taken the same stand. That's pitiful.
 
That is a pitiful lie. I despise David Duke and what he said. I also despise the hatred from the elitist left. The kind of destroys property in Portland Oregon and other places.
 
And yet the mayor of Charlottesville blames Trump. Do you?
 
Bottom line. It is legal to be a racist in this country. It is legal to protest peacefully. It is legal to evstupid. The question is…are you going to feed these supremacists? Apparently misguided people did and one died for it. Sad.
BK@Onramp.net: Aug 13 04:50PM -0500

On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:18:35 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>person that I saw on TV that approved was David Duke.
 
>You've taken the same stand. That's pitiful.
 
>That is a pitiful lie. I despise David Duke and what he said.
 
You aren't saying that about the riot and that was the group that he
backs.
 
>I also despise the hatred from the elitist left. The kind of destroys property in Portland Oregon and other places.
 
Elite? Most of those people in Charlottesville damned sure weren't
elitists, the were ones that were demonstrating against the lowest of
the low. Outspoken racists wearing swastikas and carrying Nazi
banners. You have a skewed view of this. You can't lump them in with
other demonstrator unless it's over the same ideals.
 
> And yet the mayor of Charlottesville blames Trump. Do you?
 
Listen to David Dukes again. He says they were there to take their
country back as Trump promised. It doesn't matter what I think, they
consider him their hero for what he's said.
 
>Bottom line. It is legal to be a racist in this country. It is legal to protest peacefully. It is legal to evstupid. The question is…are you going to feed these supremacists? Apparently misguided people did and one died for it. Sad.
 
Misguided? You just said that protest was legal. They were peaceful
but the Nazis weren't and started fighting. Watch the videos. They
were responsible for the murder.
BK@Onramp.net: Aug 13 09:52AM -0500

Of course it's ok with most any right winger.
 
 
On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:50:00 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
wrote:
 
Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Aug 13 02:35PM -0400

>> voting hard," said former Marion County Clerk Beth White, a Democrat,
>> who promoted those expansions.'
 
> Of course it's ok with most any right winger.

The Republicans have turned gerrymandering into an art form in recent years. They're not even shy about it--google "Operation REDMAP".
 
One take-away from this is that support for the far right is softer than the numbers of Republicans in the House and Senate would indicate. They will be screwed once the Democrats get the wherewithal to put an end to the cheating.
michaelunowho@gmail.com: Aug 13 09:20AM -0700

Wonder if IT ran into any more cars this weekend?
michaelunowho@gmail.com: Aug 13 05:29AM -0700

Wadda sad, amusing and sick little doofus.
 
A No life loser.
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