Digest for alt.sports.soccer.manchester.united@googlegroups.com - 3 updates in 2 topics

Saturday, August 19, 2017

Neal <nealr2000@gmail.com>: Aug 19 06:20AM -0700

Glad to see that some things are finally looking like they used to.
Rafalution <Rafalution@25thmay2005.com>: Aug 19 08:11AM +0100

Swansea 2-0 SCUM
Liverpool 3 -1 Crystal Palace
Huddersfield 0- 3 Newcastle
 
 
*FACT*
Chuck Spears <fishbowl2011@gmail.com>: Aug 19 10:21AM +0100

On 19/08/2017 08:11, Rafalution wrote:
> Liverpool 3 -1 Crystal Palace
> Huddersfield 0- 3 Newcastle
 
> *FACT*
 
I hope you are as accurate as you usually are. In the fickle world of
football punditry, United seem to have become favourites this week, to
be Premiership champions. Thank god there are some constants left in the
universe, such as the accuracy of your predictions.
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Digest for alt.sports.baseball.sf-giants@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 5 topics

Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Aug 19 09:56AM

The Giants are 10-7 in August, their 1st winning month so far. Of
course, there's still 12 more games to go this month, so who knows.
 
Parker came off the DL on Aug 3rd and definitely has been the catalyst.
The Giants are 9-4 this month when Parker started. They're 1-3 when he
didn't start.
 
Parker this August: .315/.339/.519/.858 12 RBI, 8 doubles in just
over half a month. More than half of his 17 hits are extra base hits
(8 doubles 1 HR).
 
Of course he won't keep this up. Otherwise we've got ourselves a real
LF. But he's fun to watch so far in a dismal season. Enjoy it while
it lasts.
 
Pence's been quietly having a killer month too, batting .351 with 14
RBI and 4 HR. He can easily have a 20 RBI month. Batting in front of
Parker certainly didn't hurt.
 
Posey meanwhile is having by far his worst month of the season, batting
only .255. Having Pablo bat behind him certainly isn't working.
 
I know, wayne likes to say that Pablo is the catalyst since he came
back roughly the same time as Parker, but I'll let you be the judge:
 
Parker .471 RISP BA, 12 RBI and 8 doubles in August
Pablo .077 RISP BA, 2 RBI in August
Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Aug 19 09:51AM

On this day in Giants history...
 
Pablo got his first hit with someone in scoring position!!! A mighty
single! Only took like half a month!!!
 
At this rate he might get 3 RISP hits by the end of the season!
 
It's also his first game with more than 1 hit.
 
He even got his 2nd walk this month! Think about this. He managed to
NOT swing at *4* balls out of the strike zone! Almost feels like this
is as rare as a solar eclipse. LOL.
 
It only took playing the worst team in baseball to accomplish all this.
:-D
 
His OPS+ as a Giant is 42 (100 = league average)
 
On defense, his Range Factor is 1.76 (league average = 2.52)
 
His WAR is -0.3
 
His RISP BA is .077
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Aug 18 05:12PM -1000

3 in the first, 1 in the second and 2 more in the 3rd. The Giants
have given Moore 6 runs worth of support to work with.
 
Giants 6 Phillies 0
 
A shutout?
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Aug 18 06:13PM -1000

On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 17:12:30 -1000, John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>have given Moore 6 runs worth of support to work with.
 
>Giants 6 Phillies 0
 
>A shutout?
 
Home runs by Pence and Crawford, doubles for Posey, Pence and Parker.
It's good playing a patsy like the Phillies. Moore thru 7 innings, 1
hit, 4 K's and no runs allowed.
 
Giants 6 Phillies 0
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Aug 18 06:55PM -1000

On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 18:13:51 -1000, John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>It's good playing a patsy like the Phillies. Moore thru 7 innings, 1
>hit, 4 K's and no runs allowed.
 
>Giants 6 Phillies 0
 
Uncharacteristically of the Giants, they score 3 more runs in the
bottom of the 8th after Gearrin allows 2 in the top of the inning.
Tomlsinon singles, Moncrief gets on via fielder's choice and Span
singles.
 
Giants 10 Phillies 2
 
Pray that the 10 runs on Friday don't mean the Giants will take the
day off at the plate on Saturday.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Aug 18 06:50PM -1000

Moore finally runs out of steam and puts runners on in the 8th.
Gearrin comes in and gives up 2 hits and 2 runs, the runs going on
Moore's earned runs. Moore's era 5.54, Gearrin's stays around 2.04.
lowes@msn.com: Aug 18 10:44AM -0700

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Digest for alt.sports.football.pro.miami-dolphins@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 8 topics

euphemism <euphemism@mindspring.com>: Aug 19 08:55AM -0500

Can't keep a good man down. Bortles is gaining league-wide scorn as a
flop. Enter Super Henne... the Clark Kent of the NFL.
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000831455/article/jaguars-cant-keep-blake-bortles-as-qb1-cutler-set-for-big-year
"euphemism@mindspring.com" <euphemism@mindspring.com>: Aug 18 07:29PM -0700

The Patriots top draft pick suffers a season ending ACL injury on kick coverage play.
 
Shit happens.
 
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20377675/new-england-patriots-fear-de-derek-rivers-lost-season-knee-injury
J Lunis <lunis.j@gmail.com>: Aug 19 04:00AM -0700

Does that mean Gaze AND BB are idiots?
L J Alibi <ljmaxx51@gmail.com>: Aug 19 04:25AM -0700

On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 7:00:32 AM UTC-4, J Lunis wrote:
> Does that mean Gaze AND BB are idiots?
 
Ask Drumrboy :)
Drumrboy <drumrboy@aol.com>: Aug 19 04:30AM -0700

7:00 AMJ Lunis
Does that mean Gaze AND BB are idiots?
 
Yup!
bob@bob.mail: Aug 18 07:19PM -0400

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 19:12:32 -0500, euphemism
 
>look like a putting green? It's tearing up like a green as well...
and why is the home team having more problems with it than the
visitors
Stoobz <stoobz4@comcast.net>: Aug 18 08:38PM -0500


>> look like a putting green? It's tearing up like a green as well...
> and why is the home team having more problems with it than the
> visitors
 
Another seemingly ongoing problem with Miami.
"euphemism@mindspring.com" <euphemism@mindspring.com>: Aug 18 10:30AM -0700

On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 7:47:29 PM UTC-5, Stoobz wrote:
> How long is the brain trust going to keep this horrible field?
 
> It's been a complaint for years now but I think it's far worse this year.
 
 
It's a brand new field, isn't it?
 
To me it looks like they're playing on algae... they slip and slide every time they try to cut. I think they must have hired a greens keeper to care for their field.
bob@bob.mail: Aug 18 07:29PM -0400

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 19:44:21 -0500, Stoobz <stoobz4@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
>How long is the brain trust going to keep this horrible field?
 
>It's been a complaint for years now but I think it's far worse this year.
Didn't seem to bother the Ravens players as much as the Dolphins.
I wonder if the team doctor doubles as the equipment manager.
"euphemism@mindspring.com" <euphemism@mindspring.com>: Aug 18 10:41AM -0700

In some serious shit now...
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/raiders/2017/08/17/raiders-cb-sean-smith-arrested-charged-felony-assault-sisters-boyfriend/578706001/
Stoobz <stoobz4@comcast.net>: Aug 18 10:40AM -0500

MIAMI GARDENS—The Dolphins will redo the entire playing field at Hard
Rock Stadium with new sod in advance of their season opener and the
University of Miami's.
 
The grass did not hold up well for Thursday's preseason game against
Baltimore, with players occasionally losing their footing and much of
the field being covered in divots. There have been ongoing issues with
the turf lately, particularly with hosting El Clasico and scrimmages by
both football teams that use the building.
 
Given the shape it was in after UM's scrimmage Saturday, the Dolphins
believed their best shot at having the field up to their standards in
time for the Ravens game was to lay new sod. That plan didn't work,
obviously. The main problem was heavy rain in South Florida this week,
which hindered the sod from fully taking hold.
 
The grass will be ripped out of Hard Rock Stadium in advance of the
Coldplay concert Aug. 28–the event has been on the calendar since last
October, so the Dolphins have had ample time to plan. By clearing the
field prior to the show, which would have surely ruined it anyway, the
Dolphins are able to install new grass as early as possible. For the
concert, the stadium will use a plastic covering over the bare ground.
 
That schedule will set up four days between the concert and the
Hurricanes' Sept. 2 opener against Bethune-Cookman, then there's another
week to replenish it leading up to the Dolphins' opener Sept. 10. The
Dolphins also intend to use a different strain of grass than the one
that faltered Thursday and are fully confident the field will be
impeccable for UM's game.
 
The field at Hard Rock Stadium is usually among the best in the league,
even as the Dolphins share the venue with UM. It'll help that there are
only two weekends in which the teams play on back-to-back days this
season. The Hurricanes host Syracuse on Oct. 21, followed by
Dolphins-Jets at 1 p.m. the next day. The Hurricanes also face Virginia
Tech on Nov. 4, and the Dolphins play Oakland the next night.
 
http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/08/18/dolphins-to-install-new-field-at-hard-rock-stadium-before-miami-hurricanes-opener/
Dan the Man <dan708@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 08:27AM -0700

> penalties.
 
> Cutler still standing.
 
> Punting on 4th and 27 says it all...
 
Afraid I couldn't get the game, last night. WGAL in Harrisburg, PA was carrying the BAL broadcast, but I couldn't tune it in with my antenna. Digital TV - FAAAHHH!
Dan the Man <dan708@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 08:16AM -0700


> Until yesterday... when Lucky Whitehead broke his foot. Out 4 to 6 weeks.
 
> Lucky?
 
> Maybe.
 
Sounds like "The Ki-Jana Carter Story". Or "John Bosa - The Man Who Would Be Sack-Meister", etc.
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Digest for rec.sport.tennis@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 19 05:24AM -0700

On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 8:50:29 PM UTC+10, MBDunc wrote:
> > Strangely enough if you look at the players who beat him in USO last few years and also majority of the players that beat him during the tune ups leading into USO most of them are not what you described as big hitter or powerful servers, Fognini and Pouilli beat him at USO, he also lost to Lopez and Coric the last two times he played at Cincci, he also lost to Nishikori in Canada.
 
> Eh. Your list actually is a list of BIG hitters from tier2/journeymen level. Their name is not "bill bazooka" of course but smt. like Nishi's 2BH or Lopez FH is considered very elite.
 
> .mikko
 
That is your opinion. I don't consider these guys big hitters.
alinefx@alinefx.com: Aug 19 05:32AM -0700

These rafatards are still nowhere in sight. They definitely share something in common with Trump Voters. Hold on… They are trump voters!
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Aug 19 08:21AM -0500

On 8/19/2017 6:19 AM, Court_1 wrote:
 
> That's true but this is Nadal we're talking about, a guy who fights for every point in every event. A green 18 year old kid (Shap) beat Nadal in Montreal and now Kyrgios pretty much bullied Nadal in Cinci.
 
> I realize that Nadal is not very comfortable playing in the Cinci conditions with the humidity and faster/lower bouncing courts and he's more comfortable with the conditions at the USO but it's also true that Nadal simply seems more vulnerable to many different players off clay as he ages.
 
> He better get his act together for the USO and pray that his draw is kind.
 
There's no doubt that Nadal is better on clay than on HC. But, when he's
peaky, he's extremely effective on HC, capable of beating anyone.
 
Really, if I were a Fed fan I'd be more worried right now about the USO
than if i were a Nadal fan. Losses at tuneups often mean nothing - see
Fed's loss to 40 year old Tommy Haas before Wimbledon - the player is
using the matches to fine tune their game, not necessarily win the
matches. But injuries are impactful, and Fed is the one under Injury
Scare right now.
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 20 12:40AM +1000

On 19/08/2017 12:59 PM, TennisGuy wrote:
 
> Oh and two more things.
> You don't forfeit 3 match points against Rafa!
> And you don't lose a game when serving for the match!
 
He's the only guy to beat Fed, Rafa & Djoker in their 1st h2h matches.
Can any other player say they've had winning h2h v those 3 guys?
 
Must have something going for him.
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 20 12:44AM +1000

On 19/08/2017 1:03 PM, SliceAndDice wrote:
>> And you don't lose a game when serving for the match!
 
> His serve is not reliable? You have some very high standards, mister.
 
> Yes, he choked while serving for the match but everyone, including Fed, Nadal and Djokovic
 
 
Nick has beaten all 3 the 1st time he played them. Takes some balls/game
right?
 
 
 
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Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 19 07:56AM -0700

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 8:00:28 PM UTC-7, TennisGuy wrote:
 
> Oh and two more things.
> You don't forfeit 3 match points against Rafa!
> And you don't lose a game when serving for the match!
 
 
Trolling? Last week we heard from you (iirc) that Shap is nothing special;
now the same for Kyrgios?
 
Mmm. #wacky
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Aug 19 04:37PM +0200

> humility. Learn at least that from your hero.
> Gloating in someone else's loss is so petty and childish. Karma has a way of
> biting you in the a*s as you just found out.
 
TT is an atheist from Europe.
Why would he believe in stuff from Indian philosophy and religion?
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 19 10:51PM +1000

On 19/08/2017 4:52 AM, AZ wrote:
>> http://www.avg.com
 
> I like this. This could be considered a legitimate concern. But my rating is just not about being "impactful in slams". I have called it "Long Term Late Slam Impact/Footprint". Actually, since the word "impact" has the potential cause so much ambiguity and to be misunderstood (especially to you), I am now preferring my alternative term "Long Term Late Slam Footprint" or LTLS Footprint. Less ambiguous.
 
> So, let's take a look at your scenario, even though it is very artificial, looks very contrived and has a very low probability of happening (Who the hell loses 11 slam finals in a row??). I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that you are doing this on good faith.
 
 
 
But it doesn't have to be losing 11 finals in a row because he'd have
the same points if he lost all his slam semis & never made a final -
he'd still have 114 pts. Remember, losing all 11 finals is the same
points as not even making a final (11 x 0 is the same as 100 x 0 or 0 x
0) - the points are accrued for simply making the semis. So Murray
would still have 114 pts if he say only made 5 slam finals (or zero, or
100) & lost them all.
 
That could be another fault in your system - giving zero points for
losing in a slam final. Surely *winning* a semi (thus making a final,
even if you lose it) should be rewarded? Thinking about it some more
I'd go with your 8X, but allocate it for a r/up, & then go 16X for a
win. This is a problem only for the final match, because there is no
'next round' where the rewards flow, thus reaching the final is worth
the same as losing a semi.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Aug 19 08:17AM -0500

On 8/19/2017 7:51 AM, Whisper wrote:
 
> That could be another fault in your system - giving zero points for
> losing in a slam final.  Surely *winning* a semi (thus making a final,
> even if you lose it) should be rewarded?
 
AZ's system gives points for advancing from QF to S but not S to F?
 
Seriously?
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 20 12:17AM +1000

On 19/08/2017 9:18 AM, stephenJ wrote:
 
> Maybe not probably, but AZ has been dismissing whisper examples as
> "billion to one" scenarios. Surely the odds against that happening are
> far, far lower than a billion to one.
 
The flaws are not 'billions to 1' category, more like 1 in 10 or so -
very common. The model looks better than what it is due to the top 4
being so much better than the field. In any other era the flaws would
be obvious & coming thick & fast.
 
AZ should take all this feedback on board & go back to the drawing
board. He shows some potential & may actually come up with something
useful if he keeps working an it. We'll be here to offer constructive
criticism to keep him on track.
 
: )
 
 
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 20 12:21AM +1000

On 19/08/2017 9:22 AM, stephenJ wrote:
 
> Maybe if we keep talking about it you'll derive a rational, coherent
> solution. I hope so, but as of now, keeping them separate is the logical
> thing to do.
 
I think AZ can see we are open to any productive ideas & are tough
taskmasters (lion's den?). This is a good thing. He should embrace
criticism as it's coming from experts in the field. If he can convince
us then he's on a real winner. I encourage him to keep going.
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 20 12:34AM +1000

On 19/08/2017 9:39 AM, *skriptis wrote:
 
> Why?
 
End of the day the big emphasis has to be on slams *won*. The rest is
kinda trivial. Look at someone like Pat Rafter. He won 2 slams & was
also twice r/up at Wimbledon, also got to No.1. Most people don't
realize he only won 11 singles titles in his whole career. That's
because nobody cares. His stature in the game is far greater than a guy
who wins only 11 titles total. Ferrer won 27 titles, Berdych has won 13
titles - they are complete nobodies compared to Rafter in historical
terms. Even Muster who won 44 titles is considered a far lesser great
than Rafter.
 
Jim Courier won less titles than Ferrer, but is a tennis legend (HOF) as
he has 4 slam titles while Ferrer has 0.
 
Jaros' point is valid. Any system that puts Djoker far ahead of Rafa
over a given time span where the difference is 11 slam v 10 can't be
taken too seriously.
 
 
 
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Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 19 07:32AM -0700

bump
Manuel aka Xax <xamigax@gmail.com>: Aug 19 05:39AM -0700

Le samedi 19 août 2017 11:22:36 UTC+2, MBDunc a écrit :
> > Non sense.
 
> It is about timing; standard qualification procedure.
 
> .mikko
 
Can't remember last time I've heard about somebody that high having to play qualies.
 
When are ranking studied (how long before the beginning of a slam, if each slam is doing the same), in order to (pre-)fill the draw ?
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 19 07:29AM -0700

One thing I like about this kid other than his game and exuberant attitude is
who he has in his corner: he's now coached by Marty Laurendeau, who was in turn
coached by Allen Fox at Pepperdine back in the day. I have a feeling Shap will
win a Major. We'll see.
Manuel aka Xax <xamigax@gmail.com>: Aug 19 05:52AM -0700

Le samedi 19 août 2017 11:02:49 UTC+2, John Liang a écrit :
 
> > About similar non-slam achievements and actual play quality: All these names are in tier1 but if in a subjective order: Nalby > Rios > Denko > Mecir > Corretja.
 
> > .mikko
 
> In my opinion I would rate Nalby, Mecir and Rios higher than Denko and Corretja.
 
Denko and Corretja lower then the others, I too would favor Niko over Alex.
 
The other three are a lot harder to rank, let's try...
 
I'd say Rios comes on top (not related with his #1 ATP spot), such a exquisite hand, so much flair (Hingis is the only player that comes to my mind, for near same era, with as much tennis instinct in her blood).
 
Mecir would be my second, by a tiny margin : the way he was sometimes totally toying with any legend he faced, gosh... that was freaky and enjoyable (okay I hated it when it was Edberg on the other side !)
:-)
 
Nalby was also able to toy with giant, yet a "narrower range" (Nadal & Federer, as I recall. Even was one of the two early nemesis for Roger, along with Hewitt).
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Aug 19 07:02AM -0700

On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 5:52:24 AM UTC-7, Manuel aka Xax wrote:
 
 
 
> Mecir would be my second, by a tiny margin : the way he was sometimes totally toying with any legend he faced, gosh... that was freaky and enjoyable (okay I hated it when it was Edberg on the other side !)
> :-)
 
> Nalby was also able to toy with giant, yet a "narrower range" (Nadal & Federer, as I recall. Even was one of the two early nemesis for Roger, along with Hewitt).
 
I agree with all of this. Mecir was my personal favorite of these three, but
I would put Rios at the top equally with him, then Nalby.
Don't see Davydenko and Corretja as really close to them.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Aug 19 03:36PM +0200


>> E.g. Federer lost a set vs Juan Carlos Ferrero in Wimbledon in a
>> similar situation.
 
> It's hard to quantify such effects. Maybe Federer played out of his skin and Djok had no answer for the first two sets?
 
 
We could debate endlessly but bottom line is, no pro tennis
players would pick Djokovic's preparation for that kind of high
stake match where you're going after #1, slam final, and
extending your unbeaten streak.
 
Playing in Sunday/Monday vs Gasguet then having 4 off days before
meeting Federer in the semis on Friday. It can't be positive.

 
Djokovic played many matches that season, was on a roll, and
cooling down in the middle of the slam, definitely harmed him
more than it helped him.
 
 
All players suffer in similar occasions. Federer had a walk over
vs Haas in that rain interrupted Wimbledon 2007, and in the next
match ancient Juan Carlos Ferrero took a set. On grass? I believe
the only one he lost until the final that year.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Aug 19 08:33AM -0500


>>> Max
 
>> Robert Lee, who?
 
> General Robert E. Lee was the military leader of the Confederate States of America during the US Civil War. He is consider >to be among the best generals of this war, right behind Grant and Sherman (who were US generals).
 
 
Actually, whether Lee or Grant was the better general is a hotly debated
topic. Lee was probably better on balance, given his usually inferior
quantity of material. But Grant's Vicksburg campaign - superb.
 
 
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> I see it as a classic 1-off fluke. Keep in mind in AO the very same
> year Delpo led Fed 3-0 in 1st set & then never won another game, losing
> 18 straight to lose 63 60 60 - epic clown performance.
 
 
Yes, that was a weird clowning performance. Del Potro was young
back then and some new players occasionally have problems with
different Earth 's spin in the southern hemisphere, but he
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Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Aug 19 04:31AM -0700

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 4:11:15 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
 
> Not that high, could have lost the first set...
 
> Wins the match 7-6(1), 6-2. Will face Kyrgios (who beat Karlovic in 3)
> in Friday evening match.
 
Do you like Nadal's chances at the USO now? Be honest. He'll have to have Larry, Curly and Moe and a bunch of other Stooges in his section of the draw to get to the finish line.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 19 05:29AM -0700

On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 9:31:40 PM UTC+10, Court_1 wrote:
 
> > Wins the match 7-6(1), 6-2. Will face Kyrgios (who beat Karlovic in 3)
> > in Friday evening match.
 
> Do you like Nadal's chances at the USO now? Be honest. He'll have to have Larry, Curly and Moe and a bunch of other Stooges in his section of the draw to get to the finish line.
 
I think he will have similar result to last few years losing a tight match somewhere in 4th round or QF.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Aug 19 04:27AM -0700

No thanks..
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Aug 19 04:28AM -0700

Djokovic? Who's that? Didn't he retire yet? 😈
 
For his sake, maybe he should retire for good. These power players like Kyrgios and Zverev will surely destroy him when he comes back. He won't be a spring chicken any more.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 19 05:22AM -0700

On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 9:28:02 PM UTC+10, Court_1 wrote:
> Djokovic? Who's that? Didn't he retire yet? 😈
 
Pipe cleaner
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Digest for alt.sports.baseball.bos-redsox@googlegroups.com - 24 updates in 17 topics

Pearly Soames <pearlysoames99@gmail.com>: Aug 18 08:28PM -0700

Sox up 5 games on the Yankees now
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: Aug 18 08:55PM -0700

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 11:28:04 PM UTC-4, Pearly Soames wrote:
> Sox up 5 games on the Yankees now
 
In the 8th my power here went out, so I had to go out to my car and hear the end!
 
WOW!
 
 
- nate
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: Aug 18 07:43PM -0700

the Old Man IN the sea!!!
7-6!!
 
is there a pitcher?
 
 
- nate
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: Aug 18 07:25PM -0700

oh well...3 outs for a net 3 bases (HR- the GIDP)....
 
meanwhile, way to 2 go RS bullpen....
:(
 
 
- nate
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: Aug 18 07:05PM -0700

the Nemesis....
 
 
- nate
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: Aug 18 06:58PM -0700

again.
i take Hembree out after his fucking walk to load the bases. But then not again i have taken Kelly out and so on.
 
 
- nate
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: Aug 18 06:14PM -0700

We get the Bad News Barnes tonight...
 
?
 
- nate
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: Aug 18 05:45PM -0700

:(
 
GIDP is a bad thing....
 
- nate
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: Aug 18 04:55PM -0700

....
as Ned Martin would have put it, "Mercy!"
 
 
- nate
dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 03:15PM -0700

Starts against the right teams at the right moments with high run support
dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 01:03PM -0700

Last week via road I was disappointed that they let Jordan M...Yanks rookie basically shut them down..
 
This fat beer league soft throwing lefty along with CC shouldn't last 3 innnings..
 
The half breed will whiff whiff and the NY and Yankees loving media will only talk 500 ft. HOMERUNS. ..BUT BASICALLY HALF BREED WHIFFS WHIFFS ..
dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 12:59PM -0700

No Sunday night.
Sue Robbins <email@domain.com>: Aug 18 10:10AM -0600

On 2017-08-18 03:37:35 +0000, Pearly Soames said:
 
>> but even factoring out the defense he hasn't been great (FIP of 4.30).
>> He just hasn't been pitching as well.
 
> And in 12 of his losses this season, the Sox have scored 2 runs or fewer.
 
A little worse than Sale it sounds.
Pearly Soames <pearlysoames99@gmail.com>: Aug 18 12:52PM -0700

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 12:10:45 PM UTC-4, Sue Robbins wrote:
> >> He just hasn't been pitching as well.
 
> > And in 12 of his losses this season, the Sox have scored 2 runs or fewer.
 
> A little worse than Sale it sounds.
 
Yep. All 4 of Sale's losses have come in games in which the Sox scored 2 or fewer runs. The thing is that Sale has managed to win 2 of these low-support games, whereas Porcello has not won any (last year he was 1-3). Sale has not been the losing pitcher in any game in which the Sox have scored at least 3 runs (Porcello has lost 2 of these).
dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 06:10AM -0700

Curt not a piss shit liberal who thinks it cool to be a man and change into a women or any gay faggot shit..
BTTalbot2003@yahoo.com: Aug 18 06:11AM -0700

"A horse every fifth day, a horse's ass the
other four".
 
BTT
Sue Robbins <email@domain.com>: Aug 18 10:09AM -0600

On 2017-08-18 01:02:21 +0000, SnoBrdr said:
 
 
>> Always appreciate him being a curse buster, but he is not a bright one.
 
>> http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2727996-curt-schilling-says-he-absolutely-still-supports-donald-trump?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
 
> And who determined that you're the brightest beacon in the bay.
 
I did and I determmine that I am correct.
dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 12:40PM -0700

> "A horse every fifth day, a horse's ass the
> other four".
 
> BTT
 
Are we talking about your Mother here?
Pearly Soames <pearlysoames99@gmail.com>: Aug 18 12:43PM -0700

> "A horse every fifth day, a horse's ass the
> other four".
 
> BTT
 
That should go on his tombstone
Donald Violette <donfrombarre@gmail.com>: Aug 18 10:10AM -0700

GENERALLY I'D SAY AT 120 GAMES INTO THE SEASONWITH THEM BEING 18 GAMES OVER .500WITH A 4.5GAME LEAD OVER THE YANKEES I'D SAY THEY MORE THAN MET EXPECTATIONS. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
ON TO A FEW DEFENSE OFFENSE AND PITCHING OBSERVATIONS.
WITH LEON AND VASQUEZ AS CATCHERS DEFENSIVELY THEY ARE SOUND REGULARLY THROWING OUT SOME OF TE FASTEST BASERUNNERS IN BASEBALL.
AND WITH APLETHORA OF OUTFIELD ASSISTS THERE'S NOT MUCH BAD TO SAY ABOUT THE OUTFILDERS THROWING ARMS.
ON TO THEPITCHING: I'VE GOT JUST THREE WORDS FOR YA, POMERANZ, SALE AND KIMBREL NUFF SAID.
ANDPRICE SHOULD TO SUMMERIZE 120 GAME IN THEY'REBE BACK SOON TOO.
FFENSIVELY WHILE THEY COULD HIT A LOT OFHOME RUNSTHEY DO FIND WAYS TO SCORE RUNS MEANING THEY'RE VERSITILE.
TO SUMMERIZE AT 120 GAME INTO THE SEASON, 18 GAMES OVER .500 AND A 4.1 LEAD OVER THE YANKEES I'D SAY THEY'RE LIIVING UP TO EXPECTATOIONS..
IF YOU WONDER WHY I DIDN'T POINT OUT THE BAD THINGS ABOUT THIS TEAM, AND MAKE NO MISTAKE THERE ARE A FEW OF THEMIT'S BECAUSE THERE'S SO DAMN FEW IT DOESN'T MATTER, DO YOU AGREE?
dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: Aug 18 12:32PM -0700

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 1:10:06 PM UTC-4, Donald Violette wrote:
> FFENSIVELY WHILE THEY COULD HIT A LOT OFHOME RUNSTHEY DO FIND WAYS TO SCORE RUNS MEANING THEY'RE VERSITILE.
> TO SUMMERIZE AT 120 GAME INTO THE SEASON, 18 GAMES OVER .500 AND A 4.1 LEAD OVER THE YANKEES I'D SAY THEY'RE LIIVING UP TO EXPECTATOIONS..
> IF YOU WONDER WHY I DIDN'T POINT OUT THE BAD THINGS ABOUT THIS TEAM, AND MAKE NO MISTAKE THERE ARE A FEW OF THEMIT'S BECAUSE THERE'S SO DAMN FEW IT DOESN'T MATTER, DO YOU AGREE?
 
 
 
 
Without a doubt you hold 2 distinctions.
 
A The worst writer ever
B The dumbest fan ever
The lead is 4 games. .
 
One time you write 4.5 the next it's 4.1?..whoever had a 4.1 lead?
 
4.1???
 
I won't get into the mis-spelling and words joined together because a 5 year old weeps trying to read your trash..which is amazing because it looks like a 4 year old wrote it.
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: Aug 18 11:54AM -0700

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HITTING
Ev = Events = PA + SB + CS
OC = Outs Created = AB-H + CS + SF + SH + GIDP + OoB
BP = Bases Produced = TB+BB+SB+SF+SH-CS-GIDP+HBP+CI+XBT
AdjOPS = BP/ ( OC or 1, whichever is more )
PfAdjOPS = AdjOPS corrected for Park Factor
 
BOS hitting Ev OC BP AdjOPS PfAdjOPS
RafaelDevers BOS 78 47 53 1.128 1.1002
ChrisSale BOS 3 2 2 1.000 .9756
AndrewBenintendi BOS 495 311 262 .842 .8219
MookieBetts BOS 559 363 304 .837 .8170
SamTravis BOS 51 30 25 .833 .8130
Tzu-WeiLin BOS 61 37 29 .784 .7647
EduardoNunez BOS+ 427 273 206 .755 .7632
JackieBradley BOS 430 286 214 .748 .7300
DustinPedroia BOS 395 246 182 .740 .7218
ChrisYoung BOS 223 147 108 .735 .7168
HanleyRamirez BOS 430 288 210 .729 .7114
MitchMoreland BOS 441 300 214 .713 .6959
XanderBogaerts BOS 477 317 223 .703 .6863
SandyLeon BOS 225 160 93 .581 .5671
ChristianVazquez BOS 252 179 97 .542 .5287
MarcoHernandez BOS 61 42 21 .500 .4878
KyleKendrick BOS 2 2 1 .500 .4878
JoshRutledge BOS 119 84 41 .488 .4762
DevenMarrero BOS 171 132 61 .462 .4508
BrockHolt BOS 90 64 29 .453 .4421
SteveSelsky BOS 9 8 2 .250 .2439
RickPorcello BOS 2 2 0 .000 .0000
HectorVelazquez BOS 1 1 0 .000 .0000
EduardoRodriguez BOS 4 4 0 .000 .0000
DrewPomeranz BOS 1 1 0 .000 .0000
BrianJohnson BOS 2 2 0 .000 .0000
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BOS 4778 3272 2245 .686125
 
PITCHING
Ev = Events = Batters Faced + Steal Attempts
OI = Outs Induced = AB-H + CS + SF + SH + GIDP
BG = Bases Given = TB+BB+SB+SF+SH-CS-GIDP+HBP + (BK+WP-IBB)
AdjOPS = BG/ ( OI or 1, whichever is more )
PfAdjOPS = AdjOPS corrected for Park Factor
 
BOS pitching Ev OI BG AdjOPS PfAdjOPS
CraigKimbrel BOS 195 156 56 .359 .3502
BrandonWorkman BOS 88 69 26 .377 .3676
AustinMaddox BOS 16 11 5 .455 .4435
ChrisSale BOS 663 507 235 .464 .4522
MattBarnes BOS 238 176 82 .466 .4545
JoeKelly BOS 159 118 55 .466 .4547
FernandoAbad BOS 142 104 55 .529 .5159
DrewPomeranz BOS 549 390 237 .608 .5929
BlaineBoyer BOS 119 82 50 .610 .5949
HectorVelazquez BOS 71 52 32 .615 .6004
DavidPrice BOS 289 201 128 .637 .6213
AddisonReed BOS+ 224 162 101 .623 .6275
RobbyScott BOS 118 87 57 .655 .6392
EduardoRodriguez BOS 397 278 186 .669 .6527
NoeRamirez BOS 18 14 10 .714 .6969
HeathHembree BOS 232 156 114 .731 .7129
RickPorcello BOS 700 480 359 .748 .7297
BrianJohnson BOS 122 81 63 .778 .7588
DougFister BOS 202 131 102 .779 .7596
BenTaylor BOS 80 53 42 .792 .7731
RobbieRoss BOS 45 27 22 .815 .7949
KyleMartin BOS 11 7 7 1.000 .9756
StevenWright BOS 115 73 80 1.096 1.0692
KyleKendrick BOS 47 25 29 1.160 1.1317
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BOS 4640 3271 2101 .642311
 
 
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nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: Aug 18 11:50AM -0700

Adam Warren's .358 Against is 1 point better than Kimbrel's .359 Against.
 
View in fixed font!
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HITTING
Ev = Events = PA + SB + CS
OC = Outs Created = AB-H + CS + SF + SH + GIDP + OoB
BP = Bases Produced = TB+BB+SB+SF+SH-CS-GIDP+HBP+CI+XBT
AdjOPS = BP/ ( OC or 1, whichever is more )
PfAdjOPS = AdjOPS corrected for Park Factor
 
NYY hitting Ev OC BP AdjOPS PfAdjOPS
MiguelAndujar NYY 6 1 6 6.000 5.8252
AaronJudge NYY 517 311 344 1.106 1.0739
Ji-ManChoi NYY 18 13 13 1.000 .9709
AaronHicks NYY 292 181 165 .912 .8851
GarySanchez NYY 372 241 213 .884 .8581
BrettGardner NYY 529 338 285 .843 .8186
DidiGregorius NYY 406 270 215 .796 .7731
StarlinCastro NYY 338 226 174 .770 .7475
ChaseHeadley NYY 449 284 218 .768 .7452
GarrettCooper NYY 45 30 23 .767 .7443
MasonWilliams NYY 19 12 9 .750 .7282
ToddFrazier NYY+ 445 305 221 .725 .7253
ClintFrazier NYY 118 86 63 .733 .7112
JacobyEllsbury NYY 297 196 132 .673 .6539
MichaelPineda NYY 4 3 2 .667 .6472
MattHolliday NYY 362 259 172 .664 .6448
RonaldTorreyes NYY 278 192 114 .594 .5765
ChrisCarter NYY 208 152 88 .579 .5621
TylerAustin NYY 19 15 8 .533 .5178
AustinRomine NYY 197 146 72 .493 .4788
JaimeGarcia NYY+ 37 31 13 .419 .4227
GregBird NYY 72 55 23 .418 .4060
MasahiroTanaka NYY 3 3 1 .333 .3236
CCSabathia NYY 4 3 1 .333 .3236
TylerWade NYY 56 46 15 .326 .3166
LuisSeverino NYY 5 4 1 .250 .2427
JordanMontgomery NYY 5 4 1 .250 .2427
KyleHigashioka NYY 20 18 2 .111 .1079
ChasenShreve NYY 2 2 0 .000 .0000
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NYY 4798 3233 2435 .753170
 
PITCHING
Ev = Events = Batters Faced + Steal Attempts
OI = Outs Induced = AB-H + CS + SF + SH + GIDP
BG = Bases Given = TB+BB+SB+SF+SH-CS-GIDP+HBP + (BK+WP-IBB)
AdjOPS = BG/ ( OI or 1, whichever is more )
PfAdjOPS = AdjOPS corrected for Park Factor
 
NYY pitching Ev OI BG AdjOPS PfAdjOPS
AdamWarren NYY 201 159 57 .358 .3480
ChadGreen NYY 192 152 62 .408 .3960
DavidRobertson NYY+ 187 144 67 .465 .4647
TommyKahnle NYY+ 190 145 68 .469 .4692
LuisSeverino NYY 620 455 245 .538 .5228
DellinBetances NYY 207 139 77 .554 .5378
BenHeller NYY 11 7 4 .571 .5548
SonnyGray NYY+ 489 353 195 .552 .5617
ChasenShreve NYY 140 101 59 .584 .5671
JordanMontgomery NYY 507 366 219 .598 .5809
CCSabathia NYY 439 306 199 .650 .6314
JonathanHolder NYY 163 113 74 .655 .6358
AroldisChapman NYY 160 105 69 .657 .6380
BryanMitchell NYY 125 83 55 .663 .6434
JaimeGarcia NYY+ 595 408 278 .681 .6847
MichaelPineda NYY 419 293 207 .706 .6859
MasahiroTanaka NYY 576 406 289 .712 .6911
GiovannyGallegos NYY 63 42 30 .714 .6935
CalebSmith NYY 47 30 23 .767 .7443
DomingoGerman NYY 48 32 25 .781 .7585
LuisCessa NYY 164 108 87 .806 .7821
TommyLayne NYY 64 39 33 .846 .8215
RonaldHerrera NYY 15 9 9 1.000 .9709
---------------------------------------------------------------
NYY 4598 3228 2078 .643742
 
 
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