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Wednesday, July 12, 2017

Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 13 01:00AM +1000

The last time Cilic played Querrey at Wimbledon.
 
2nd longest Wimbledon match ever.
 
Did I just jinx Marin?
 
: )
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 13 12:50AM +1000

Heck of a point Sam won to lead 5-1 - wow!
 
 
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SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 12 07:54AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 10:50:30 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
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Indeed and indeed. Murray did not play bad in the fifth at all. Just got mightily outplayed.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 12 09:54AM -0500

On 7/12/2017 9:50 AM, Whisper wrote:
 
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Yes, point of the match.
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 13 12:57AM +1000

On 13/07/2017 12:54 AM, SliceAndDice wrote:
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> Indeed and indeed. Murray did not play bad in the fifth at all. Just got mightily outplayed.
 
Murray relies a lot on his movement, so obviously he was impeded. But
Sam was getting better the longer the match went so woulda been close
anyway.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 12 07:59AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 10:57:21 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
> Murray relies a lot on his movement, so obviously he was impeded. But
> Sam was getting better the longer the match went so woulda been close
> anyway.
 
Takes out defending champions in back-to-back Wimbledons. Quite an achievement.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 12 09:53AM -0500

WOW !!!!
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 13 12:55AM +1000

On 13/07/2017 12:53 AM, stephenJ wrote:
> WOW !!!!
 
Nice guy, amazing achievement for him. Respect Murray for playing
through - show the lower ranked wimps how it's done.
 
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Tim <firemonkey@gatty.co.uk>: Jul 12 03:59PM +0100

On 12/07/2017 15:53, stephenJ wrote:
 
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Not really wow considering Murray was injured. Hope Querrey wins his semi.
 
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SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 12 07:58AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 10:23:43 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Cilic in the final? Yes
 
Not if Querrey has his way. Sam is a bit of wildcard, can come out and destroy anyone when on.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 13 12:29AM +1000

On 13/07/2017 12:24 AM, Tim wrote:
 
> I don't think so. Not with the injury. Just one of those things. Would
> be good to see Querrey get to the final.
 
Maybe Murray took it easy in 4th to save himself for 5th? I think he'll
come out hard early & if Sam stands up to him it could be over?
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 12 07:53AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 9:25:56 AM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
> I think it will probably be a Murray-Federer final.
 
Or not!
 
Querrey the Big Four slayer at Wimbledon!
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 12 07:54AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 10:20:32 AM UTC-4, ahonkan wrote:
 
> You didn't read / understand my point. If Djoker's problems were in his
> head and he has overcome them, he should be as good as Djoker from
> early 2016 (& before). His play so far is a strong evidence.
 
But he hasn't played any decent grass court players yet.
Tim <firemonkey@gatty.co.uk>: Jul 12 03:39PM +0100

On 12/07/2017 15:27, Whisper wrote:
 
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Murray is toast. At least he's playing on and not ducking out as some
would have done.
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 13 12:50AM +1000

On 13/07/2017 12:39 AM, Tim wrote:
 
> Murray is toast. At least he's playing on and not ducking out as some
> would have done.
 
Exactly. Big respect.
 
 
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SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 12 07:53AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 10:27:55 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
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What a monstrous couple of sets from Querrey, nothing Murray could do. I was getting a good feeling from his game, but even I did not expect this level of badassery.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 13 12:54AM +1000

On 13/07/2017 12:53 AM, SliceAndDice wrote:
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> What a monstrous couple of sets from Querrey, nothing Murray could do. I was getting a good feeling from his game, but even I did not expect this level of badassery.
 
Yes, surprising to see Sam get to this level. Yes Murray was hobbled,
but even so it would have been a tight finish.
 
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 12 09:29AM -0500

Well done Sam, now don't choke like you did in the 3rd set breaker, alright?
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 13 12:35AM +1000

On 13/07/2017 12:29 AM, stephenJ wrote:
> Well done Sam, now don't choke like you did in the 3rd set breaker,
> alright?
 
Doesn't look like he'll choke - just broke to lead 2-0 in 5th.
 
Looks relaxed & playing better than he has all match. Murray looks to
be ailing physically, which has also effected him mentally.
 
Sam holds easily to lead 3-0 now.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Tim <firemonkey@gatty.co.uk>: Jul 12 03:42PM +0100

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Kudos to Murray for playing on although the hip completely scuppered his
chances of winning.
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 13 12:51AM +1000

On 13/07/2017 12:42 AM, Tim wrote:
> On 12/07/2017 15:35, Whisper wrote:
 
> Kudos to Murray for playing on although the hip completely scuppered his
> chances of winning.
 
Yes, Kyrgios would definitely not play til the end.
 
 
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TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jul 12 05:28PM +0300

stephenJ kirjoitti 12.7.2017 klo 15:18:
> that I have seen more of all kinds of films than anyone around here,
> that you/C1 would retreat to your last bunker, just outright claiming I
> was lying about what I'd seen. Pathetic, really, but of no consequence.
 
Well the films I list below DO NOT fit your viewing profile... Or maybe
you are a big fan of really old films (in which case not seeing 'Safety
Last!' would be truly odd since it's one of the most relevant films from
that era.). So it just doesn't make much sense.
 
Well, I don't think you picked numbers randomly though, there is a trend
on not seeing art films and critics' favourites.
 
Let's assume you did it entirely fair...
The list still has 50% of titles from year 1990+ and 35% from 2000+
That's a lot imo. Many of the year 2000+ titles are films I never heard
of and I think relatively insignificant titles which will be soon
forgotten and replaced by new unimportant new titles. So my point is
that this still tells us mostly that you have seen more new titles than I.
...I'm sure that I have seen at least more 80s, scifi and probably 70s
titles as well...those are the 'genres' I have always liked. Also very
likely art films and important classics which I have watched recently a lot.
 
But if you want to compare your film expertise to mine on various
categories... knock yourself out...
http://www.listchallenges.com/profile/321239#lists-used/all/rank
 
>> hours long.
 
> Yes it is. But then again, I've told you all along, I've seen many, many
> films over a long period of time.
 
Still a bit odd selection to see over more relevant titles which you
haven't seen. In general I would expect people who have seen all films
listed above to be massive fans of 30s and 40s & art films... while not
watching likes of Sausage Party at all.
 
The Phantom Carriage? Really?
 
You didn't comment on any film... tell us what you thought about:
Intolerance
Children of Paradise
The Best of Youth (which I have considered watching for some time)
 
> being 'highly esteemed' or some such, as if the rest of the cinematic
> world wasn't aware of it. BTW, did you see it 15 years ago, or recently
> on Netflix?
 
Saw it years ago, on TV. And damn happy I didn't pay for it.
 
>> didn't mention it which would have been much more impressive.
 
> There's nothing 'impressive' or lack thereof about having seen a
> particular film. Or discussing it on a tennis forum.
 
Well it seemed that you wanted to compete against C1, so it doesn't make
sense...
 
 
> I mean, I've seen a ton. I'm actually surprised you're as close to me as
> you are, though I suspect if we only included films seen in public
> theaters, the only real way to see a film, the gap would be much larger.
 
The current number of 823 is titles I've rated on IMDB, seen a bit more.
But the rate I'm currently going through 'important' (read critically
acclaimed) titles, might get to 900 soon-ish. Or maybe I never will
since there were quite a few obscure new titles of which I have little
interest. Hardly watching at all new titles currently. Probably more at
Oscar nominations time.
 
Next up:
Godard: Weekend
Tarkovsky: Nostalghia
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnflhnjxng4
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 12 09:37AM -0500

> The current number of 823 is titles I've rated on IMDB, seen a bit more.
> But the rate I'm currently going through 'important' (read critically
> acclaimed) titles, might get to 900 soon-ish.
 
Well when/if you pass me, let me know and I'll toast to you.
 
> since there were quite a few obscure new titles of which I have little
> interest. Hardly watching at all new titles currently. Probably more at
> Oscar nominations time.
 
That's the funny thing here. You seem to put loads of stock in 'critical
acclaim', but then you don't see current films that are.
 
You really should get out to the theater more. That's the best way to
see a film, it's the way the artists who made it intended, and there
*is* a lot of good stuff out there, even among the commercial Hollywood
stuff. Spider-man is a good example. Is it Goodfellas? No, LOL, but it's
a good film.
 
Check it out ... :)
 
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Tim <firemonkey@gatty.co.uk>: Jul 12 03:35PM +0100

In the semi.
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Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 12 04:20AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 5:36:16 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
> > Konta to win the TB. Played one loose service game and got broken in S3.
 
> oh yeah Halep made so many mistakes yday, she played sooo badly! LOLOL
> she lost the tiebreak cos Konta stuck with it and won it.
 
Halep loses the plot in the biggest moments. She plays like a house on fire for a set and a half and then lets the big occasion get to her. It's some kind of mental flaw. She did it at the FO vs Sharapova a few years ago, the recent FO vs Ostapenko and now the Wimbledon match vs Konta. Yes, she's a retriever and is over-powered by these women but it's more than that and there's a big mental component at play with her. There's no doubt about it.
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