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Sunday, July 16, 2017

undecided <costasz@gmail.com>: Jul 16 11:33AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:47:46 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
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I had the same discussion with a friend after Cilic's awful performance in the final. If Rafa were there we would have been treated to another thriller,probably 5 sets.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jul 16 11:36AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 11:33:29 AM UTC-7, undecided wrote:
> On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:47:46 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
> > : (
 
> I had the same discussion with a friend after Cilic's awful performance in the final. If Rafa were there we would have been treated to another thriller,probably 5 sets.
 
The tournament already had a 5-set Rafa thriller--his 4th-round loss to the titan Gilles Müller.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 16 12:04PM -0700

I agree if Rafa would have made it to the QF it would have been great.
wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk: Jul 16 01:54PM -0500

In article <edd0ad70-94fe-4e76-ab17-b5cacee79a44@googlegroups.com>,
dn.usenet@gmail.com () wrote:
 

 
> continued. No such rival emerged for Serena after that Belgian
> woman retired (forgetting her name this moment) who beat Serena in
> 3 slam QFs in one calendar year.
 
We were talking about Slam *finals* rather specifically.
wg
wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk: Jul 16 01:54PM -0500

In article <5a0af9f7-080f-48c7-af66-aa3e9244a8df@googlegroups.com>,
> serves until one of them flounders and can't return rally balls,
> I'd rather watch second rate women's tennis match than that any day
> of the week. I hope Fed dismantles him.
 
The police conclusion is that VW was not at fault in the accident.
wg
"rec.sport.tennis" <rec.sport.tennis@gmail.com>: Jul 16 06:33PM

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:47:18 -0500, stephenJ wrote:
 
> possible criticisms have been answered.
 
> Anyone who continues to doubt this is just engaging in pure irrational
> hate.
 
rst would be very dull without pure irrational hate
Makarand Patil <sportsfan123@cooltoad.com>: Jul 16 11:28AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 9:49:55 AM UTC-7, StephenJ wrote:
 
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Not just Pete, I am sure most of us who watched Pete win 7th Wimbledon in 2000, and then 14th Slam (USO) in 2002 pretty much thought the same. Somehow watching Pete win made winning 14 Slams seem to be a laborious process. I am not talking in terms of the ease or difficulty of Pete's matches etc.. Back then, it felt as if one has to achieve something like what Pete did, one can't have any other interest in life other than winning Slams. This difficulty was also the reason for the sheer arrogance of the Sampras-fanboys constantly reminding after each Federer's Slam victory just how much Fed was behind Sampras in Slam totals (ofcourse, this later on changed to clown-era excuses).
 
There was also a tinge of bitterness in Pete's victories later on in his career (as if he was showing a middle finger to the media and the public). In contrast, Fed seemed to dance through his Slam wins in a light, celebratory way despite several painful losses. Fed also blissfully ignored whatever certain section of media (Mats Wilander, Pete Bodo etc.) constantly highlighted him of being a Rafa-bunny.
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jul 16 10:46AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:40:12 AM UTC-7, kaennorsing wrote:
 
> > Big ball 'basher' needs to develop some craftiness on grass.
 
> There's truth to this though I don't know if he's capable of it. Cilic is a very robotic player. The minute Federer stopped coming over every ball and started mixing up the return with the slice it was like a virus got installed onto the Cilic hard-drive and he simply unraveled from there... Robots can't handle creative play.
 
> Also, it's amazing how well 35 year old Federer still gets so many big serves in play and minimizes the ace count against him. Did it against Raonic, then against Berych, today again with Cilic. These are monster servers but Federer makes them look average... Still. Amazing.
 
I agree that Fed's returning has been just remarkable.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 16 11:13AM -0700

> I agree that Fed's returning has been just remarkable.
 
And the second half of the match he was hitting backhand returns on the rise, amazing.
ahonkan <ahonkan@gmail.com>: Jul 16 11:14AM -0700

On Sunday, 16 July 2017 20:58:14 UTC+5:30, Gracchus wrote:

> Was he really injured? Who knows? If he was just falling apart mentally, calling the trainer might still make sense to save some face and perhaps disrupt Federer's rhythm. Fortunately that didn't happen.
 
He said he had a bad blister on his left foot that hurt whenever he
changed direction. Later it started hurting with every movement.
A pity indeed. However, I do think that Fed would have won in straights
blister or no blister.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 16 11:15AM -0700

> He said he had a bad blister on his left foot that hurt whenever he
changed direction. Later it started hurting with every movement.
A pity indeed. However, I do think that Fed would have won in straights
blister or no blister.
 
Blisters hurt a lot when you have nowhere to go in the court and down in the score.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jul 16 11:23AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 11:14:37 AM UTC-7, ahonkan wrote:
> changed direction. Later it started hurting with every movement.
> A pity indeed. However, I do think that Fed would have won in straights
> blister or no blister.
 
I think so too. Cilic might have won some more games on his own serve but still probably not have broken Federer's.
ahonkan <ahonkan@gmail.com>: Jul 16 11:23AM -0700

On Sunday, 16 July 2017 20:32:25 UTC+5:30, Whisper wrote:
 
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Given that Murray & Djoker may be out for some time and Rafa has not
done so well at USO, Fed should be the hottest favourite,
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:55AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:42:31 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > What does it show ?
 
> Your posts in the past showed how much you never wanted Federer to win the 8th
 
You are judging me through your emotional prism regarding players. I was/am not as emotionally invested in any player, even Sampras, as you are in Fed. While I did want Sampras to at least share the Wim record, my statements were mostly in jest esp. because I mostly made them in response to Court_1 or maybe a couple of other posters.
 
> and for you to stop watching after Djokovic lost simply shows how much you hate Federer watching anyone you think can derail Federer's train.
 
Really ? You think I keep backing Djok because he I think can derail Fed ? If that's the case I would've backed Nadal as he's much closer to Fed in slam count than Djok. I don't worship any player like you do. I like some aspects of Djok's career but doesn't mean I like everything about him. Same goes for Sampras. I am not as black and white about players as you are.
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jul 16 11:02AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:56:00 AM UTC-7, Shakes wrote:
> On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:42:31 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> > and for you to stop watching after Djokovic lost simply shows how much you hate Federer watching anyone you think can derail Federer's train.
 
> Really ? You think I keep backing Djok because he I think can derail Fed ?
 
I mean: ... I think he can derail Fed ...
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jul 16 11:06AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:41:08 AM UTC-7, soccerfan777 wrote:
> I don't hate them at least at this point. Just feel sad at this point
 
Is that why you responded to Waleed's post for me ?
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 16 11:08AM -0700

> I am not as black and white about players as you are.
 
 
This what you tell yourself but you are not the same exact way you think you are capable to judge me.
Check my posts before Federer and you will find me cheering for Sampras and his greatness but this never stopped me for acknowledging the greatness of Federer when he came.
If you stopped watching after Djokovic lost then your main interest and player is Djokovic provided you were not looking for him to stop Federer and this by itself is the definition of black and white.
I don't need to hide or lie how much I appreciate and love Federer game, absolutely nothing wrong with it and I don't have to love Djokovic, nadal or Murray game to be considered a tennis fan.
"rec.sport.tennis" <rec.sport.tennis@gmail.com>: Jul 16 05:48PM

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 10:38:18 -0700, Carey wrote:
 
> has yet another one...
 
> Another dumb-ass Aussie.
 
> heh
 
cash has always hated federer
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jul 16 10:56AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:48:20 AM UTC-7, rec.sport.tennis wrote:
 
> > Another dumb-ass Aussie.
 
> > heh
 
> cash has always hated federer
 
 
Yes. Cash's last criticism of Fed: he keeps his head down too long after
striking the ball.
 
 
 
heh
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:59AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:56:20 AM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
 
> Yes. Cash's last criticism of Fed: he keeps his head down too long after
> striking the ball.
 
> heh
 
If only Federer had only had Cash coaching him, he could have been a one-slam wonder too.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:54AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:44:16 AM UTC-7, soccerfan777 wrote:
 
> Completely drunk and partying?
 
I'm sure she'll show up soon to bask in the glory.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 16 10:08AM -0700

Op zondag 16 juli 2017 18:48:26 UTC+2 schreef StephenJ:
 
> A 6th US Open, which would break his tie with Connors and Sampras for
> Open Era greatest, and which would also give him a 20th slam title,
> would indeed be sweet.
 
Sweet? It would be mindblowing. Winning 3 out of 3 slams played in a year after knee surgery, 6 months off and virtually written off as a 36 year old?
 
It already is more than sweet right now. It's hard to comprehend. Now if he also wins the USO let's just make him king of the world or something. :))
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