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Friday, July 7, 2017

TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jul 07 08:08PM +0300

TT kirjoitti 7.7.2017 klo 13:37:
 
> So indeed AO may have been faster this year than Wimbledon but as you
> see from the image it's not so much about the speed of Wimbledon courts
> which seems to be rather normal but more about ridiculously fast AO courts.
 
Watched some of Rafa's match (playing well)... grass is still the
fastest slam surface and Wimbledon this year looks perfectly normal
speed to me.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jul 07 08:09PM +0300

TT kirjoitti 7.7.2017 klo 20:08:
 
> Watched some of Rafa's match (playing well)... grass is still the
> fastest slam surface and Wimbledon this year looks perfectly normal
> speed to me.
 
Next up Gilles Muller... not easy on this surface!
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 07 10:19AM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 1:09:39 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
 
> Next up Gilles Muller... not easy on this surface!
 
LOL.
ahonkan <ahonkan@gmail.com>: Jul 07 10:14AM -0700

Djoker @ AO = Fed @ AO + Rafa @ AO + Andy @ AO
Rafa @ FO = (Fed @ FO + Djoker @ FO + Andy @ FO) * 5
Fed @ W = Djoker @ W + Rafa @ W + Andy @ W
Fed @ USO = Rafa @ USO + Djoker @ USO + Andy @ USO
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jul 07 08:19PM +0300

ahonkan kirjoitti 7.7.2017 klo 20:14:
> Djoker @ AO = Fed @ AO + Rafa @ AO + Andy @ AO
> Rafa @ FO = (Fed @ FO + Djoker @ FO + Andy @ FO) * 5
 
Incredible record
 
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jul 07 07:06AM -0700

On Friday, 7 July 2017 14:56:58 UTC+1, Court_1 wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:50:02 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> > Courty always falls for any fake news - what on earth is that pic even gauged by?
 
> It's not fake news you buffoon! ESPN had a graph which clearly showed the AO court speed was faster in 2017 and the balls used were lighter. Go back to your ditch. There were several articles written about it as well. Google it if you can figure out how to do that. *rolls eyes*
 
it is fake news cos what's it based on? what was this graph based on? random data by some biased Fedfan analyst? I think the Wimbledon grass is slightly slower this year, judging by live front-row viewing, the bounce and serve effectiveness and returns, Karlovic even crashed out in 1st round, BUT that's just a guess, it could well be the players getting worse/better. TT's ace stats are prob just as valid.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 08 12:16AM +1000

On 7/07/2017 8:59 PM, stephenJ wrote:
> deny the obvious: in the early 2000s, Wimbledon changed its grass to be
> significantly slower so as to benefit baseline players and reduce the
> impact of huge serving on play.
 
TT tends to go way ott. Not too long ago he was suggesting Rafa was a
better volleyer than Sampras/McEnroe.
 
 
 
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heyguys00@gmail.com: Jul 07 07:20AM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 10:06:24 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> > > Courty always falls for any fake news - what on earth is that pic even gauged by?
 
> > It's not fake news you buffoon! ESPN had a graph which clearly showed the AO court speed was faster in 2017 and the balls used were lighter. Go back to your ditch. There were several articles written about it as well. Google it if you can figure out how to do that. *rolls eyes*
 
> it is fake news cos what's it based on? what was this graph based on? random data by some biased Fedfan analyst? I think the Wimbledon grass is slightly slower this year, judging by live front-row viewing, the bounce and serve effectiveness and returns, Karlovic even crashed out in 1st round, BUT that's just a guess, it could well be the players getting worse/better. TT's ace stats are prob just as valid.
 
The source was listed at the bottom of the graph..you know, where sources usually are listed. ;-)
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 08 12:22AM +1000

On 7/07/2017 9:23 PM, TT wrote:
 
> No, dumbo... players are just serving better on average.
 
> http://postimg.org/image/95uv1c15h/
 
Not completely right. The strings make even mediocre servers hit bigger
these days. They should make the pros use standard equipment from
earlier eras so true talent can be tested.
 
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"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.com>: Jul 07 05:27PM +0300

On 7.7.2017 17:22, Whisper wrote:
 
>> http://postimg.org/image/95uv1c15h/
 
> Not completely right. The strings make even mediocre servers hit bigger
> these days.
 
How do they do that?
 
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Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jul 07 07:29AM -0700

Limpy is mistaken as usual. One can serve with more spin with the new strings,
but not 'bigger'.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Jul 07 07:35AM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:23:21 PM UTC+10, TT wrote:
 
> > So clay court of today is faster than USO and AO in 90s....
 
> No, dumbo... players are just serving better on average.
 
> http://postimg.org/image/95uv1c15h/
 
NO dumbass and tit it is you who sugget that using ace count as an indication of court speed not me. So now the extra ace count suggest better serving on average. So tell us the truth the higher ace count was better serving on average or fast court speed.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jul 07 08:18AM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 5:58:41 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
 
 
> The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947)
> ... sort of silly ghost romance film. But dear lord Gene Tierney looks
> good in this... 7/10
 
I thought it was very well done. George Sanders was great as usual playing the charming cad. IIRC, Natalie Wood was doing her scenes concurrently with "Miracle on 34th Street."

> Doubt (2008)
> ...Totally recommend... Brilliant acting from everyone. Amy Adams
> surprisingly convincing as good hearted naive nun. 8/10
 
How could it not be good when it features "the top of the food chain"? Still, it's probably not one I'd watch again.
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Jul 07 08:46AM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:56:58 AM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:50:02 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> > Courty always falls for any fake news - what on earth is that pic even gauged by?
 
> It's not fake news you buffoon! ESPN had a graph which clearly showed the AO court speed was faster in 2017 and the balls used were lighter. Go back to your ditch. There were several articles written about it as well. Google it if you can figure out how to do that. *rolls eyes*
 
Wimbledon courts are a joke, slower than my grandma's walk, awful!
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jul 07 08:53AM -0700

On Friday, 7 July 2017 15:29:35 UTC+1, Carey wrote:
> Limpy is mistaken as usual. One can serve with more spin with the new strings,
> but not 'bigger'.
 
no he's not, the weight, balance and material of racquets these days makes it much easier to hit bigger serves.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 07 09:20AM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 11:18:18 AM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
 
> > ...Totally recommend... Brilliant acting from everyone. Amy Adams
> > surprisingly convincing as good hearted naive nun. 8/10
 
> How could it not be good when it features "the top of the food chain"? Still, it's probably not one I'd watch again.
 
I disagree. I thought "Doubt" was excellent and I'd definitely watch it again.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jul 07 09:24AM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 9:20:08 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
> > > surprisingly convincing as good hearted naive nun. 8/10
 
> > How could it not be good when it features "the top of the food chain"? Still, it's probably not one I'd watch again.
 
> I disagree. I thought "Doubt" was excellent and I'd definitely watch it again.
 
OK, do so and tell me about the experience. I'll enjoy it vicariously.
MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net>: Jul 07 09:27AM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 6:53:07 PM UTC+3, The Iceberg wrote:
> > Limpy is mistaken as usual. One can serve with more spin with the new strings,
> > but not 'bigger'.
 
> no he's not, the weight, balance and material of racquets these days makes it much easier to hit bigger serves.
 
With more control (as seen with clearly increased 1st serve percentages since 90:ies) and also sustain. Back in wood era and with first fibres/graffites it was practically impossible serve 100% through long match. You had to pace your serving or your arm just went numb. Now rackets are more forgiving with better vibration/shock absorbs which makes constant big serving less risky for your physics.
 
.mikko
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 07 10:18AM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:24:34 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
 
> > I disagree. I thought "Doubt" was excellent and I'd definitely watch it again.
 
> OK, do so and tell me about the experience. I'll enjoy it vicariously.
 
:)
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 07 10:06AM -0700

She simply decided to handshake his wife first.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jul 07 08:16PM +0300

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 7.7.2017 klo 20:06:
> She simply decided to handshake his wife first.
 
Yeah, protocol and good manners to shake hands with the wife first...
 
http://www.firstpost.com/world/g20-summit-no-polands-first-lady-didnt-pull-a-suarez-on-donald-trump-it-was-likely-just-protocol-3785599.html
 
-Kornhauser-Duda did the right thing in greeting Melania first. Whether
Trump's hand was extended or not is irrelevant to the protocol here.
 
-If anything, Trump's confusion may have been that he doesn't know or
care about protocol. He likes to be the one in control of every meeting,
everywhere, every time. It's his way.
 
http://theresurgent.com/fact-checking-snubgate-was-polands-first-ladys-walk-by-a-snub/
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jul 07 10:09AM -0700

Prepare for that story, they have 100% concrete proof and photos that Trump met Putin and something or other about hacking the general election hahahhahhahhahah lol
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jul 07 05:39PM +0100

On 07/07/2017 10:06, The Iceberg wrote:
 
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/06/europe-and-japan-announce-trade-deal-to-rival-nafta/?utm_term=.138b6abe17c2
 
> LOL how many years is that going to take to sort out? Canada's EU deal took over 7 years and then didn't even happen LOL
 
This deal has been discussed for 4 years already, the announcement
indicates it's in the final stages.
 
The Canada-EU deal was passed by the EU parliament in February, it
needs to be approved by all 28 national parliaments before it is
fully effective, but when any of the 28 agree to the terms they
can commence bilateral trade with Canada immediately.
 
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/in-focus/ceta/
 
The EU & S Korea agreed a trade deal in 4 years - 2007-11.
 
 
 
 
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Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jul 07 08:15AM -0700

"...due to a build-up of other cases." Mmm.
 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=3&ved=0ahUKEwiMiN72uvfUAhUL9YMKHXHNCiUQqQIIKSgAMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marca.com%2Fen%2Fmore-sports%2F2017%2F07%2F06%2F595eaab2e2704e6f0e8b45cf.html&usg=AFQjCNHBq6AB03LUbdqktUyAnaNVdXUBpQ
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.com>: Jul 07 05:47PM +0300

All is lost.
 
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