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Thursday, July 6, 2017

"rec.sport.tennis" <rec.sport.tennis@gmail.com>: Jul 06 03:27PM

Back from the dead, Gulbis beats Del Potro is straight sets.
"Javier González" <jagonzal@gmail.com>: Jul 06 07:49AM -0700

-> Roger Federer 16
-> Andy Murray 9
-> Rafael Nadal 6
 
What year is it? :-D
 
Half-assed prediction: Federer ain't winning this one.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 06 08:01AM -0700

> What year is it? :-D
 
Half-assed prediction: Federer ain't winning this one.
 
He is one of the favorites but I don't see he is locked to win it.
He has very tough matches to win, Roanic, Djokovic, Murray/Cilic/Nadal.
 
He lost the last two times he played djokovic in Wimbledon and I don't believe Djokovic is gone.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 07 12:05AM +1000

On 6/07/2017 2:33 PM, Gracchus wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 8:21:56 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
>> As for Kvitova waiting to get into shape before making a comeback, I think the fact that she didn't lose her life was incentive enough for her to want to come back early. She did win Birmingham after all. You are being very heartless about Kvitova's personal circumstances.
 
> Yes, after what happened to her, she had good reason to wonder if she'd every play competitive tennis again.
 
 
'ever' play competitive tennis again.
 
 
 
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Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jul 06 07:46AM -0700

On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 7:05:19 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
 
> >> As for Kvitova waiting to get into shape before making a comeback, I think the fact that she didn't lose her life was incentive enough for her to want to come back early. She did win Birmingham after all. You are being very heartless about Kvitova's personal circumstances.
 
> > Yes, after what happened to her, she had good reason to wonder if she'd every play competitive tennis again.
 
> 'ever' play competitive tennis again.
 
Good catch. You may be ready to receive your high school diploma :)
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 06 05:15PM +1000

On 6/07/2017 3:33 AM, kaennorsing wrote:
> Op dinsdag 4 juli 2017 16:56:41 UTC+2 schreef jdeluise:
 
>> Go find a sucker somewhere else then.
 
> I wouldn't say that about you but hey, you know yourself better than I do... Certainly explains the lack of objectivity.
 
One can suffer fools only so long.
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 06 05:16PM +1000

On 6/07/2017 3:36 AM, kaennorsing wrote:
 
>> They don't seem to understand how huge the towers were and the forces
>> involved when a floor like that collapses.
 
> Sure, the sheer size of the tower invalidates their argument, as it changes the laws of physics.
 
Black holes change the 'laws of physics'.
 
 
 
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kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 06 03:15AM -0700

Op donderdag 6 juli 2017 09:16:50 UTC+2 schreef Whisper:
> >> involved when a floor like that collapses.
 
> > Sure, the sheer size of the tower invalidates their argument, as it changes the laws of physics.
 
> Black holes change the 'laws of physics'.
 
You think black holes made the buildings disintegrate into their steel frame structures?
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 07 12:12AM +1000

On 6/07/2017 8:15 PM, kaennorsing wrote:
 
>> Black holes change the 'laws of physics'.
 
> You think black holes made the buildings disintegrate into their steel frame structures?
 
The laws of physics don't work in black holes.
 
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Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jul 06 12:44PM +0100

<https://au.sports.yahoo.com/tennis/a/36289367/wimbledon-2017-bernard-tomic-fined-15-000-for-feigning-injury/#page1>
 
"Bernard Tomic has been fined US$15,000 (AU$19,750) for bringing the
game into disrepute when he feigned injury in a first round Wimbledon
loss that drew the ire of the tennis public."
 
"The fine is the second largest in Wimbledon's long history."
 
"Tomic admitted to taking a strategic medical time-out and no longer
caring about his grand slam performances after his 6-4 6-3 6-4 loss to
German Mischa Zverev on Monday."
 
Daniil Medvedev also fined:
 
"Daniil Medvedev has been fined a total of $14,500 (£11,180) for his
on-court misdemeanours at Wimbledon yesterday, including throwing coins
at the umpire's chair."
 
"The Russian denied he was accusing Mariana Alves of taking bribes
with the gesture in his second-round five-set defeat to Ruben Bemelmans."
 
"He was fined $7,500 (£5,780) for the coin-tossing incident as well
as further fines over a warning and having a point docked by the umpire.
Afterwards, he said: "I was just frustrated — it has no meaning. I
apologise."
 
Tim Henman, who sits on various Wimbledon committees said this morning
that the warning was for racket abuse which is more serious on a grass
court as it damages the court for the rest of the tournament. It was
inside the court too - IE not outside the lines.
 
 
Unrelated, but Steve Darcis has withdrawn from his R2 match against
David Ferrer at 0-3 in the first set.
 
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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jul 06 03:52AM -0700

Yeah they've let me into Wimbledon! Hehe am watching Cilic practice and Fed should be absolutely terrified! He smacking the ball very powerfully heavy but exceptionally deep on both sides! Raonic was just here and I tried to ask him if he knew Patrick Kehoe and Court1 but he just walked right past and kept frowning confused like, I think he v focused! Mahut is angrily hitting ground strokes and balls out the court, maybe he heard Kim Klijsters was here earlier too!
Will let you know the Fedfan situation later, they all quiet at this morning, too quiet!!
ahonkan <ahonkan@gmail.com>: Jul 06 04:22AM -0700

On Thursday, 6 July 2017 16:22:34 UTC+5:30, The Iceberg wrote:
> Yeah they've let me into Wimbledon! Hehe am watching Cilic practice and Fed should be absolutely terrified!
 
You are confused, as always. Cilic is in Rafa's quarter. So it's Rafa who
should be terrified of Cilic. Or do you expect Cilic to beat Rafa & Murray
& also Fed to beat Zverev/ Raonic & Djoker to face Cilic in the final?
Manuel aka Xax <xamigax@gmail.com>: Jul 06 03:33AM -0700


> Why Novotna?
> And why the hell Murray?
 
> Max
 
Good questions indeed
ahonkan <ahonkan@gmail.com>: Jul 06 04:17AM -0700


> Why Novotna?
> And why the hell Murray?
 
> Max
 
Actually, why Graf? She was always composed and rarely showed extreme
emotion like Novotna and Murray who cried when they lost the final.
Watson may have that as the biggest exhibit of 'passionate behaviour'.
Manuel aka Xax <xamigax@gmail.com>: Jul 06 03:31AM -0700

Le mercredi 5 juillet 2017 16:56:09 UTC+2, Pelle Svanslos a écrit :
 
> Some time ago, I posted
 
> http://business.financialpost.com/transportation/fossil-fuel-vehicles-will-vanish-in-8-years-in-twin-death-spiral-for-big-oil-and-big-autos-says-study-that-shocking-the-industry/wcm/396f52ad-50ca-40f7-a481-eaa355f44a7f
 
> under the title of bold predictions. Seems a bit less bold now.
 
Yep, I've read that too, yesterday (or the day before?) on "Drive Tribe" aka Clarckson + Hamon + May + ...
 
Bold decision, especially considering such short time to accomplish such move !
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jul 06 03:53AM -0700

Good post! Wow exciting story! You should post more stuff like this!
Manuel aka Xax <xamigax@gmail.com>: Jul 06 03:26AM -0700

Le jeudi 6 juillet 2017 01:13:56 UTC+2, StephenJ a écrit :
 
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+1
Mindblowing single set stats
Not only "not losing your serve" wise, this set alone lasted more than the previous longest match in the history, or so :-) !
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 06 05:27PM +1000

On 6/07/2017 10:48 AM, Carey wrote:
> http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/tennis/Wimbledon/goran-ivanisevic-tips-roger-federer-to-win-wimbledon-title-in-fairytale-final-against-rafael-nadal-a3579216.html
 
That article seems to have been written by a rabid rst Fedfucker - lots
of lies eg;
 
"It would also be a record 15th straight time into the second round at
Wimbledon."
 
 
Federer lost in the 2nd rd in 2013. Was rd2 played in the 2nd week that yr?
 
 
 
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joh <joshorst@gmail.com>: Jul 06 01:33AM -0700

Op donderdag 6 juli 2017 09:27:19 UTC+2 schreef Whisper:
 
> "It would also be a record 15th straight time into the second round at
> Wimbledon."
 
> Federer lost in the 2nd rd in 2013. Was rd2 played in the 2nd week that yr?
 
wow
 
 
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jul 06 10:29AM +0100

On 06/07/2017 08:27, Whisper wrote:
> Wimbledon."
 
> Federer lost in the 2nd rd in 2013. Was rd2 played in the 2nd week that
> yr?
 
Losing in the second round sort of means he got to the 2nd round. It
might have been clearer to say that he would have won his 15th consec.
R1 match. Which he did.
 
The article only mentions 'week' twice, both referring to the final.
 
 
 
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Manuel aka Xax <xamigax@gmail.com>: Jul 06 03:21AM -0700

Le jeudi 6 juillet 2017 11:29:05 UTC+2, Brian W Lawrence a écrit :
 
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Thanks for de... I was about to write debunking, until it crossed my mind that dewhispering would be funnier.
MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net>: Jul 05 11:38PM -0700

On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 5:30:42 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:
> Tomic is more likely to end up in jail than win big titles.
 
Funny, I thought same...
 
But there is smt there. Tomic has perhaps the most defects/shortcomings of top100 players starting with motivation/mental/movement/fitness/strategy issues - yet he has already gotten solid journeyman+ results. A minor title there and there. Many solid tour workhorses have lesser results.
 
Is it his obscure game? Is it his talent?
 
.mikko
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 06 02:59AM -0700

Op woensdag 5 juli 2017 20:31:52 UTC+2 schreef Shakes:
 
> > > P
 
> > The difference is Becker actually had real talent. Tomic just the bad attitude without the true talent. Even if he worked as hard as Nadal and loved tennis as much as Federer he'd still never win a slam.
 
> Also Becker didn't go wild in his lifestyle until after he actually won something. In his initial years as a pro, Becker was very hardworking and dedicated to the game.
 
Agreed, Becker actually won 2 Wimbledons before turning 19. Really no comparison whatsoever.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 06 03:02AM -0700

Op donderdag 6 juli 2017 08:38:45 UTC+2 schreef MBDunc:
 
> But there is smt there. Tomic has perhaps the most defects/shortcomings of top100 players starting with motivation/mental/movement/fitness/strategy issues - yet he has already gotten solid journeyman+ results. A minor title there and there. Many solid tour workhorses have lesser results.
 
> Is it his obscure game? Is it his talent?
 
> .mikko
 
It's his unconventional, ugly game. Once the tour figures it out he's toast... even more than he already is.
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jul 06 08:12AM +0100

>> had limited 'boots on the ground' only in North Africa and later Italy
>> before D-Day in June 1944.
 
> Er, where exactly were Brit boots on European ground before D-Day?
 
Italy (Sep '43).
 
 
> The UK was the junior partner.
> Today most Germans don't even know that British boots played any role in 1944/45
> on the continent. The RAF's role is well-known of course. But else?
 
On D-Day, there were 5 code-named Normandy beaches, 2 were used by US
forces (Omaha & Utah), & 2 by UK (Gold & Sword). The 5th (Juno) was used
by Canadian troops. The offical estimate is that 57,500 American troops
landed on the beaches, 75,215 British & Canadians, plus 15,500 Americans
and 7,900 Brits parachuted inland. Having established beachheads the
various units were reinforced by additional troops. By the end of June
(3 weeks later) about 875,000 troops had disembarked.
 
The overall commander for the invasion was General Eisenhower, but all
other members of the SHAEF (except for US General Omar Bradley) were
British (5 in total, 2 Army, 2 RAF & 1 RN). That structure and the
underlying units remained much the same through to the German surrender
in 1945.
 
I doubt that many Brits are aware of much of the history either, unless
family members were involved. I think that WW2 is/was covered in school
history lessons, but that was after my schooldays, and few school-age
kids are interested in history. Stock answer on TV quiz shows to any
history question, 'that was before my time'. Also true of any other
topic too.
 
Feel free to wind up Iceberg though :-)
 
 
 
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