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Friday, July 14, 2017

TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jul 15 12:21AM +0300

TT kirjoitti 14.7.2017 klo 20:54:
 
> That one extra point comes from nice (although overlong) traffic jam
> scene. Sad!
 
> Ok, I'll watch that French film now. :)
 
Which was Godard's 'Band of Outsiders'. Another Godard comedy, I don't
give up easily...
This time around the film was more amusing, although I'm not sure if I
fully understand silly and uneven French humour. At least Anna Karina is
easy on the eye, as always.. 5 or 6.
 
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Oh and for Courtsie, if she happens to find this post...
 
L'Eclisse (1962)
...Excellent romantic drama during a stock crash, with Delon and
Vitti... I think better Antonioni than L'avventura, which C1 didn't
like. Not sure if she'd like this one either since the film relies a lot
on atmosphere as Antonioni films often seem to do. The rhythm of the
film is interesting and effective, in the beginning showing hectic
moments on stock exchange and later silencing to a crawl.
 
L'eclisse is seen as the third part of a trilogy, preceded by
Antonioni's L'Avventura and La Notte... and is also best of the three. I
would give it 8 or 9 if I liked Monica Vitti more but I guess I'll
settle for seven. Now give me Jeanne Moreau from La Notte and...
 
Then again Vitti did a fine job as did Antonioni with the
storytelling... narrative doesn't spoon-feed the viewer and everyone can
project themselves to the motives of the characters which makes it more
intelligent than the average film. Probably deserves its reputation as
one of the best films of the 60s when it comes to cinematic
storytelling. Wonderful ending. Hell, I'll give it 8/10.
 
I think IMDB's short description of the plot is totally fucked up.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jul 15 12:49AM +0300

TT kirjoitti 15.7.2017 klo 0:21:
> This time around the film was more amusing, although I'm not sure if I
> fully understand silly and uneven French humour. At least Anna Karina is
> easy on the eye, as always.. 5 or 6.
 
Note: tarantino names this film as one of his top favourites (which
doesn't necessarily tell much of the quality of a film) and Pulp Fiction
dancing scene was a homage to dancing scene in this film (best scene in
the film imo).
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 14 04:49PM -0500

On 7/14/2017 12:04 PM, Whisper wrote:
 
> Kerber's results are no.1 worthy. The computer got it it right.
> Completely fucked up with Pliskova though. Nothing in her record
> warrants no.1 status.
 
Yes, Kerber was a worthy #1, she had the results. Raharocker has some
weird hatred of her. Hard to figure.
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 15 03:06AM +1000

On 15/07/2017 2:41 AM, John Liang wrote:
 
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> I think Federer relax a bit after getting the break, he went into this mental walk about in the middle of the set with double faults, Berdych played some great points to break back and now has the confidence to push Federer, it may not be a bad thing as long as Federer get through this match. Federer need to mix up his shots a bit more with slice, angle and depth. The other thing I noted is Berdych is getting better with his defence, he is getting a lot of ball back in defensive position. Federer is trading blow with Berdych and I think it is a mistake.
 
Fed can't afford to relax. If Berdych wins set 2 he'll be in big
trouble. He already looks like he's tiring.
 
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Tim <firemonkey@gatty.co.uk>: Jul 14 09:10PM +0100

On 14/07/2017 18:21, TT wrote:
 
>> Who is getting tired?
 
> Not with Swiss medicine.
 
 
Is it better than Spanish medicine?
 
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On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
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Patrick Kehoe <pkehoe@telus.net>: Jul 14 02:19PM -0700

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 8:35:56 AM UTC-7, StephenJ wrote:
 
> Crazy, because Connors won W and USO that year, was the obvious "best
> player". IIRC, in 75 and 77 all four slams were won by different
> players, so it was less egregious those years.
 
Rios never year end #1 then... thought he was... interesting...
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 14 04:42PM -0500

On 7/14/2017 4:19 PM, Patrick Kehoe wrote:
>> player". IIRC, in 75 and 77 all four slams were won by different
>> players, so it was less egregious those years.
 
> Rios never year end #1 then... thought he was... interesting...
 
No, his only chances would have been in 98 or 99, and Sampras and Agassi
were YE#1, respectively.
 
 
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 14 04:44PM -0500

On 7/14/2017 1:09 PM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
 
> Nadal had finals in AO and Miami during Fed's good phase, while Fed didn't
> play at all during Nadal's super results.
 
> #1 is something you have to earn.
 
No question, it should be earned. But, to be credible, the method by
which you earn it should bear a strong correlation to results, meaning
what actually constitutes "best" performance.
 
If Fed wins Wimbledon, nobody on earth would take anyone else's 52-week,
or since January 1st, results over his, so by definition, he should be #1.
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 14 04:41PM -0500

Outstanding film. Two hours and twenty minutes of being entertained in
multiple ways - by first rate SFX, by stunningly good performances from
animated characters, voice actors, and real humans, and most of all by
an excellent story that tells grand narratives by leveraging small
details. Emotionally and cognitively resonant, it hits all the marks.
 
A-
 
Highly recommended.
 
 
 
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DavidW <no@email.provided>: Jul 15 07:25AM +1000

If Muguruza wins, Manuel aka Xax and Michal Jankowski will tie for 1st
place, otherwise WendyG will win if Federer wins, otherwise Whisper will
win.
 
http://home.pacific.net.au/~davidw/tennis/contest/rst_2017sp_WM.html
Patrick Kehoe <pkehoe@telus.net>: Jul 14 02:16PM -0700

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 3:53:40 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
 
> > Muguruza beat down Serena in a major final and that's a rare achievement; she'll be a rough day at the office for Venus.
 
> > P
 
> On clay, sista's weakest surface no?
 
Yes, but just as you and I agree on Rafa's beat-downs (victories) over Feds on clay are perfectly valid and meaningful, so too with Muguruza's drubbing of Serena in their FO final. Shows Muguzura's top level can be daunting, literally, for any of the women.
 
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Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jul 14 01:21PM -0700

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 6:54:33 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> > His summer hardcourt season looking doubtful, for now.
 
> He's been hinting about this elbow injury for a year and a half. Every time he loses he mentions an elbow, an arm, a shoulder, a personal crisis, etc. He's beginning to sound like a constant excuse machine. Why hasn't he looked after this problem with his elbow if it's been an ongoing concern for a year and a half, i.e. by treating it and taking time off? Instead he played DC for example. Would an athlete with a true and serious injury play DC? Or why would he play Eastbourne if this injury was really present and possibly ominous?
 
> I'll believe he won't show up at the USO if and when I see it happen.
 
It's been a while since Djok retired from a slam. I would give him the benefit of doubt after what he's accomplished the past few years. If it was the Djok of 7-8 yrs back, I would've agreed with you.
grif <griffin_230@hotmail.com>: Jul 14 09:54PM +0100

On 13/07/2017 15:03, SliceAndDice wrote:
 
>> I was wondering the same. Nobody probably watched the Berdy match, so who knows really?
 
>> In his defense though: A prime Djoker would have bet on his fitness outlasting his opponent in a 5 set match like this. Simply get the extra ball back a million times and the opponent will start tiring eventually. I think playing the week before Wimbledon was a mistake and he must have aggrevated his old injury.
 
> Its been a while since Djoker has retired from injury. I would give him the benefit of doubt.
 
http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2017-07-12/2017-07-12_novak_djokovic_quarterfinal.html
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 14 02:07PM -0700

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2017-07-12/2017-07-12_novak_djokovic_quarterfinal.html
 
 
Hahahaha. Get your elbow treated joker :)
wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk: Jul 14 02:36PM -0500

In article <ebe09077-4560-4a3e-a7d7-86a07144498a@googlegroups.com>,
 
> She's 37!! and has some fake-fatigue thing, BUT she's in the
> Wimbledon semi-finals!
 
Navratilova played her last Wimbledon singles final at 37, losing to
Conchita Martinez (1994).
 
wg
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 14 01:17PM -0700


> Navratilova played her last Wimbledon singles final at 37, losing to
> Conchita Martinez (1994).
 
> wg
 
Wow..and now a 37 year old is playing a Spanish girl in the Wimbledon final with Conchita Martinez in the coaching box.
calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 14 01:24PM -0700

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 10:17:03 PM UTC+2, SliceAndDice wrote:
> > Conchita Martinez (1994).
 
> > wg
 
> Wow..and now a 37 year old is playing a Spanish girl in the Wimbledon final with Conchita Martinez in the coaching box.
 
 
What is it with all these US tennis women (Evert, Navratilova, Williams sisters) playing well over their expiration date? From 30 on women should concentrate on building a family (eg. Graf)!
 
 
Max
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 14 01:31PM -0700

> What is it with all these US tennis women (Evert, Navratilova, Williams sisters) playing well over their expiration date? From 30 on women should concentrate on building a family (eg. Graf)!
 
Clearly they couldn't make a family and the best Serena could do is get herself pregnant.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 14 02:58PM -0400

He had the same or better percentages on first serve, second
serve, first won% and second won% during the tournament.
 
I realized it would be a battle when I saw the numbers and it was
a battle.
 
So credit for Federer playing a good match not as others believe
he played a bad one.
 
 
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"rec.sport.tennis" <rec.sport.tennis@gmail.com>: Jul 14 07:08PM

On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:58:30 -0400, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> a battle.
 
> So credit for Federer playing a good match not as others believe
> he played a bad one.
 
Berdych could not have played much better - he made few errors and was
hitting very deep. Federer had to use his whole bag of tricks.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jul 14 12:17PM -0700

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 2:58:32 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> he played a bad one.
 
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I felt that Fed tightened a bit after a very good start, lost his serve after breaking (a common pattern I have observed in Fed-Berdych matches) and allowed Tomas into the match. To his credit, Berdych responded magnificently and did not allow Roger to play freely after that. Roger's ability to raise his game during the big points (and boy, did it reach stratospheric heights when it did) was what kept this a straight set affair.
calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 14 12:14PM -0700

"16 Things You Must Believe to Buy the 'Witch Hunt' Russia Narrative
 
 
One column cannot accommodate the list of things you must believe if you trust that Donald Trump is truly the victim of a baseless witch hunt. Consider this a mere stab.
 
That Donald Jr., Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner did nothing wrong by meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian offering dirt on Clinton. The emails requesting the meeting specifically mentioned a "Russian government attorney" and added that the requested meeting concerned "very high level and sensitive information" that "is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump." That doesn't prove a willingness to collude.
 
That concern about Paul Manafort's extensive links with Putin's former puppet in Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, including at least $12.7 million in payments, is, to quote Manafort's words, "silly and nonsensical."
 
That Jared Kushner's attempt, during the transition, to secure a back channel with the Russian government using their secure communications equipment in the Russian embassy was not alarming/inexplicable.
 
That Donald Trump's stubborn refusal ever to breathe a critical word about Vladimir Putin, even as he has freely criticized U.S. allies, or acknowledge Russian meddling in our election, is not strange.
 
That Michael Flynn's firing after less than a month on the job was really just because he had misled Mike Pence.
 
That Donald Trump's pressure on Comey to go soft on Flynn was purely a measure of loyalty/friendship from a person who has rarely shown those traits before.
 
That James Comey's firing, at least according to evolving White House accounts, was due to his mishandling of the Hillary file, no wait, due to poor management of the FBI, which was suffering from low morale, um, no because of two factual errors Comey made in congressional testimony. Finally, that it was over the "Russia thing" but this only shows that Trump was an innocent man frustrated by Comey's unwillingness to clear him publicly.
 
That it was irrelevant that Trump told the Russian ambassador and foreign minister in the Oval Office the day after Comey's sacking that the FBI director was a "nut job" whose removal had relieved "great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."
 
It's pure coincidence that one of the only foreign-policy advisers on the Trump campaign was Carter Page, who was under FBI investigation for Russia ties. In Moscow, he gave a speech denouncing U.S. policy, saying, "Washington and other Western capitals have impeded potential progress through their often hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization, inequality, corruption, and regime change." Anti-anti-corruption isn't disturbing.
 
That White House objections to sanctions against Russia, which passed the Senate 98–2, are purely procedural.
 
That former Manafort partner and Trump surrogate Roger Stone, who boasted about links to WikiLeaks founder and America hater Julian Assange, and accurately predicted in August 2016 that John Podesta would be next "in the barrel," was just lucky.
 
That statements by Eric and Donald Jr. about Russian financial ties are not revealing. Golf writer James Dodson quoted Eric as explaining in 2014 how the Trump organization was able to get financing for various golf courses even after the Great Recession. "Well, we don't rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia. We've got some guys that really, really love golf, and they're really invested in our programs. We just go there all the time." Donald Trump Jr., who also traveled to Russia frequently, spoke at a 2008 real-estate conference and noted that "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia." When Donald Trump stated that "I have zero investments in Russia," he did not say that Russia had zero investments in him, but we should believe his other claim that "I have nothing to do with Russia."
 
That Mr. Trump's failure to release his tax returns, despite repeated promises to do so, is because he is under audit.
 
That it's unremarkable that presidential spokeswoman Sarah Sanders refuses to say whether Russia is an adversary, a friend, or a nation about whom we should be wary.
 
That Donald Trump is the first president since 1949 to cast doubt on America's commitment to NATO, but this is overdue and good for the U.S.
 
That Donald Trump's obsessive attacks on "fake news" are not an attempt to inoculate himself against future revelations but just good old-fashioned, right-wing hatred of liberals."
 
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449480/donald-trump-russia-witch-hunt-narrative-hard-believe
 
 
 
Max
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 14 03:06PM -0400

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arahim <arahim_arahim@hotmail.com>: Jul 14 11:57AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 8:47:22 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> > I don't think any of this is correct.
> > Who would make djokovic and Murray the favorite for anything after Wimbledon ?
 
> I agree. How can anybody make Djokovic especially the favorite to win the USO in two short months? The guy has too many issues at the moment it seems. Plus, Djokovic isn't really that strong at the USO. I would put current Federer and Nadal ahead of him. Murray is obviously suffering from health/injury concerns as well. I doubt a healthy Murray would have lost to Querrey today. Murray looked like he was hurting from what I saw of that fifth set.
 
This may have been due to not enough volume on new betting. Looks like numbers are turning for USO.
Andy Murray 6.5
Novak Djokovic 5.5
Roger Federer 3.5
Rafael Nadal 4.5
 
The 2018 AO numbers are still at
Andy Murray 3.0
Novak Djokovic 3.0
Rafael Nadal 10.0
Roger Federer 11.0
 
perhaps indicating no or little new betting yet since the tournament is far off.
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