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Wednesday, July 5, 2017

undecided <costasz@gmail.com>: Jul 05 11:41AM -0700

On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 1:04:51 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
> I know Millman is a clown but I tuned in to watch Nadal for about 15 minutes and he looks ominous. I think it will be the Nadal Express Train to the final. Choo-choo!
 
I agree, his BH was scary good, movement was fantastic. Tough to derail this train I think.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 06 12:58AM +1000

On 5/07/2017 7:42 PM, John Liang wrote:
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> With Tomic it was very easy to predict, you look at his build, his athletic ability, mobility, dedication it wasn't really difficult to predict he wasn't a slam winning material let alone 'destine to be No.1 or multi slam winner' as you predicted. Mulit slam winners always has something special about them it does not take a great deal of knowledge of the game to see where Tomic came up short against most of No.1 and multi slam winners.
 
Disagree. Your prediction can't be proven either way until his career
is actually over. You've claimed credit for winning arguments many
times & have always been proven wrong - eg you said Roddick would have
better career than Federer, you said it was scientifically impossible
for Rafa to win 2013 USO, you've written off Rafa many times & he always
disappoints you by winning - probably happen this Wimbledon too.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 06 12:59AM +1000

On 5/07/2017 9:18 PM, kaennorsing wrote:
 
>> And right there one could only think of Becker; it might be a good idea for Tomic to seek out Becker BEFORE he leaves Wimbledon and see if he can get 30 minutes for a chat!!!
 
>> P
 
> The difference is Becker actually had real talent. Tomic just the bad attitude without the true talent. Even if he worked as hard as Nadal and loved tennis as much as Federer he'd still never win a slam.
 
These kinds of posts are useless. Nobody can possibly know what he'd
win if he worked hard & had Rafa's mental strength.
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 06 01:02AM +1000

On 5/07/2017 11:26 PM, ahonkan wrote:
 
> Whaddya know about spotting talent? Whisper has a monopoly on spotting
> talent. Dontcha recall his Roddick and Federer predictions? This Tomic
> thing ranks right up there.
 
 
What about me tipping Rafa to win career slam back in 2003?
 
 
 
> He comes across as a lazy, clueless player. No talent whatsoever that
> Whisper sees so clearly.
 
He has a lot of talent, just mentally frail in recent yrs. You must be
clueless.
 
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John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Jul 05 08:13AM -0700

On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 12:58:12 AM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
> is actually over. You've claimed credit for winning arguments many
> times & have always been proven wrong - eg you said Roddick would have
> better career than Federer,
 
I also said Federer would be a better player after I saw how he destroyed in Wimbledon semi in 2003, that was not at the end of their career but at that stage they both just broke through for their first slam wins. At that point in their career I said Federer would be a better player. Look it up.
 
 
you said it was scientifically impossible
 
I never use the term 'scientifically impossible' because I don't believe tennis has anything to do with science.

> for Rafa to win 2013 USO, you've written off Rafa many times & he always
> disappoints you by winning - probably happen this Wimbledon too.
 
Yes, I have written him off many time including winning a slam since 2013 USO, he did not disappoint me by shitting his pants every time when it comes to his chance to defend a non clay court slam.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Jul 05 08:15AM -0700

On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 12:59:56 AM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
 
> > The difference is Becker actually had real talent. Tomic just the bad attitude without the true talent. Even if he worked as hard as Nadal and loved tennis as much as Federer he'd still never win a slam.
 
> These kinds of posts are useless. Nobody can possibly know what he'd
> win if he worked hard & had Rafa's mental strength.
 
Disappointing and useless. Well, most don't agree with you on amount of talent that Tomic has or had, nobody consider him to have the talent of winning multiple grand slams.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Jul 05 08:23AM -0700

On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 1:03:05 AM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
> > Whisper sees so clearly.
 
> He has a lot of talent, just mentally frail in recent yrs. You must be
> clueless.
 
Clueless would be to claim he was a multi slam winner or destine to win 2 Wimbledons in 5 years, or straight setting Nadal at USO 2013 should they meet, or destine to be No.1. He has some talent that is good enough to make him a top 15 player with some hard work.
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jul 05 11:31AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 4:18:39 AM UTC-7, kaennorsing wrote:
 
> > And right there one could only think of Becker; it might be a good idea for Tomic to seek out Becker BEFORE he leaves Wimbledon and see if he can get 30 minutes for a chat!!!
 
> > P
 
> The difference is Becker actually had real talent. Tomic just the bad attitude without the true talent. Even if he worked as hard as Nadal and loved tennis as much as Federer he'd still never win a slam.
 
Also Becker didn't go wild in his lifestyle until after he actually won something. In his initial years as a pro, Becker was very hardworking and dedicated to the game.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 05 10:33AM -0700

Op dinsdag 4 juli 2017 16:56:41 UTC+2 schreef jdeluise:
 
> Go find a sucker somewhere else then.
 
I wouldn't say that about you but hey, you know yourself better than I do... Certainly explains the lack of objectivity.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 05 10:36AM -0700

Op dinsdag 4 juli 2017 17:47:46 UTC+2 schreef TT:
> blow out of the building. Just bad science.
 
> They don't seem to understand how huge the towers were and the forces
> involved when a floor like that collapses.
 
Sure, the sheer size of the tower invalidates their argument, as it changes the laws of physics.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 05 10:39AM -0700

Op dinsdag 4 juli 2017 17:56:26 UTC+2 schreef TT:
> disinformation has. Not sure if internet is making us much smarter
> looking at amount of conspiracy theorists here... silent bans,
> controlled demolitions, faked moonlandings, Clinton weddings etc...
 
The internet makes traditional government disinformation and one sided propaganda more difficult as everyone can fact-check and spread (dis)information. I'm sure you'd like only some 'chosen' people to do that for us... I do not.
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Jul 05 11:19AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 1:39:20 PM UTC-4, kaennorsing wrote:
> > looking at amount of conspiracy theorists here... silent bans,
> > controlled demolitions, faked moonlandings, Clinton weddings etc...
 
> The internet makes traditional government disinformation and one sided propaganda more difficult as everyone can fact-check and spread (dis)information. I'm sure you'd like only some 'chosen' people to do that for us... I do not.
 
You sound like a Nazi!
calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 05 10:27AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 3:59:18 PM UTC+2, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> > Lol, even in two world wars you had to run to your American cousins whining and crying for help. And even the Russkis had to help!
 
> > And Germany was virtually alone. I think we should invade the UK and punish the Brexiteer elites. One of Merkel Assistant Deputies can be Interim Governor in England for example.
 
> you Germans started it and lost to us Brits, twice.
 
 
We lost WW1 to France, the UK and the US.
And WW2 to Russia and the US. France and the UK played only a minor role. The big boys let France and the UK to take part a little bit.
 
Max
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Jul 05 10:32AM -0700


> We lost WW1 to France, the UK and the US.
> And WW2 to Russia and the US. France and the UK played only a minor role. The big boys let France and the UK to take part a little bit.
 
> Max
 
You and Japan still lost the war, bit of a joke,since they have a very strong economies!
calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 05 10:36AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 4:04:59 PM UTC+2, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> > > that moron presidente Juncker isn't.
 
> > Of course he is elected. Your Queen isn't though. And what is with the House of Lords, dummy?
 
> who by???
 
Nominated by the European Council, elected by the European Parliament.
The EC consists of the prime ministers of all EU members. Prime ministers are elected by national parliaments. National parlaments are elected by the peoples.
 
 
> LOL, what joke. Mind you, you would be defending a centralised unelected body run by Germany that reigns over the whole of Europe, just like what your pal Hitler wanted.
 
In what way "run by" Germany?
 
> > That a BRIT is complaining about lack of a democratic legitimation in the EU is truly hilarious!!!
 
> you wouldn't get it, thicko, cos our system works and has done for centuries.
 
Without democratic legitimation.
 
> it wasn't just invented by a bunch of utter liars in the 60's lying to the people about it being a trade organisation. You have your EUSSR and we'll keep out of it, just like Churchill said, the guy that whooped you to bits in WW2.
 
 
Which influence will be left for the UK after Brexit?
You will lose your permanent UN Security Council within the next 10 years.
It will be US, EU, China, Russia, India, Brazil who call the shots in the future. Maybe also Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria in 20 years from now. The UK will be in the same league as Argentina, Mexico, Kongo, Australia, Canada, Thailand, Egypt ...
 
 
Max
Bharath Purohit <acebharath@gmail.com>: Jul 05 10:33AM -0700

Just now noticed.
Pelle Svanslos <pelle@svans.los>: Jul 05 05:56PM +0300

"Volvo has become the first traditional carmaker to signal the end of
the internal combustion engine by saying all its cars will have an
electric motor in three years' time.
 
The Chinese-owned firm, best known for its emphasis on driver safety, is
not killing petrol and diesel altogether.
 
By 2019 all of its cars will be either all-electric, or hybrids which
combine electric and conventional engines."
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40505671
 
Some time ago, I posted
 
http://business.financialpost.com/transportation/fossil-fuel-vehicles-will-vanish-in-8-years-in-twin-death-spiral-for-big-oil-and-big-autos-says-study-that-shocking-the-industry/wcm/396f52ad-50ca-40f7-a481-eaa355f44a7f
 
under the title of bold predictions. Seems a bit less bold now.
calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 04 09:21PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 2:35:20 PM UTC+2, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
 
> --
> "Donald Trump is the weak man's vision of a strong man."
> -- Charles Cooke
 
 
Krugman?
Really???
 
Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!!!!!!!!!
 
That guy is a hate-filled fanatic. Pure and simple.
 
 
Max
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