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Sunday, July 16, 2017

Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 15 11:08PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 12:27:58 AM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Why this much love the flat chested butt-less Audrey I never get. Moreover she acted in silly chick flicks. I saw some of her movies and was just annoyed.
 
She had elegance. Something you wouldn't know about in a million years.
 
She had a nice look. Watch her in Charade or Breakfast at Tiffany's--she was very attractive. She was very good in her roles and was well-loved in her industry. Plus, she did a lot of charity work. She had that real movie star quality which is rare. She was a class act.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 15 11:20PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 12:50:45 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
 
> Check out 'Wait Until Dark' and 'The Nun's Story' for very good non
> chick flicks.
 
> > I don't get Marilyn Monroe hype either. She could hardly act.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEYwJbjyF2M
 
How can anybody not like Audrey Hepburn? She had that quality most actors would kill for. She lit up the screen. She was adorable and one of the most elegant actresses of all time.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 16 07:37PM +1000

On 16/07/2017 2:27 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Why this much love the flat chested butt-less Audrey I never get. Moreover she acted in silly chick flicks. I saw some of her movies and was just annoyed.
 
> The one with Peck... was it Breakfast at Tiffanys? So dated and ridiculous. And the one she plays a crude British broad... That was annoying too... was that My Fair Lady? Any way I don't get the hype.
 
Yeah me too. She's like a 5/10 at best, yet is paraded around as the
most beautiful woman ever?
 
 
> I don't get Marilyn Monroe hype either. She could hardly act.
 
I recently watched the last movie she ever made. She looked hotter in
that than anything before. Smoking.
 
 
 
 
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calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 15 09:37PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 6:24:18 AM UTC+2, Gracchus wrote:
 
> > > Geez ok. You called him an awkward, unibrowed clod and then said you like him. Geddit? It sounded like it was coming from two different people.
 
> > He is an awkward unibrowed clod and I do like him. :)
 
> You're trying to have the best of both worlds. SliceAndDice is right. Now we know you're secretly rooting for a Croat clod.
 
 
Next thing is she says that she likes Graf.
 
 
Max
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 15 11:35PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 12:24:18 AM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
 
> > > Geez ok. You called him an awkward, unibrowed clod and then said you like him. Geddit? It sounded like it was coming from two different people.
 
> > He is an awkward unibrowed clod and I do like him. :)
 
> You're trying to have the best of both worlds. SliceAndDice is right. Now we know you're secretly rooting for a Croat clod.
 
Heck no. I hope Federer crushes that Towering Inferno! But if for some reason Cilic zones and is too good on the day, it will be a shame but what can you do? I'm not going to be inconsolable like so many of these lunatic Federer fanatics. Some people live vicariously through Federer and other tennis players watching every point of every match he plays like their lives depended on it. It's ridiculous. It's entertainment.
 
However, if Fed does win, I'll be rubbing it in the faces of posters like Whisper, Bob, Shakes, StephenJ, etc. :)
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 16 07:25PM +1000

On 16/07/2017 12:08 PM, Court_1 wrote:
 
>> Who would want to dance with any Croat? Cilic and Whisper all all the evidence we need that they are lowlifes.
 
>> I hope Federer is in top form tomorrow and that Cilic isn't on his USO juice. It's out of our hands now. Go, Great Man!
 
> I actually like Cilic and his no-nonsense aggressive tennis. He seems like a nice guy and apparently he's extremely well-liked on tour but I would like the graceful Federer to prevail tomorrow!
 
Most Croatians are good looking, funloving & have lots of friends. Not
sure what Gracchus' problem is?
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 16 07:34PM +1000

On 16/07/2017 2:24 PM, Gracchus wrote:
 
>>> Geez ok. You called him an awkward, unibrowed clod and then said you like him. Geddit? It sounded like it was coming from two different people.
 
>> He is an awkward unibrowed clod and I do like him. :)
 
> You're trying to have the best of both worlds. SliceAndDice is right. Now we know you're secretly rooting for a Croat clod.
 
Maybe Court1 prefers real men? Roger is a bit effeminate.
 
 
 
 
 
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Tuan <phamquangtuan48@gmail.com>: Jul 15 09:07PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 12:49:25 AM UTC+10, Patrick Kehoe wrote:
 
> :)))
 
> Something like that... shouldn't be flying...
 
> P
 
If I was her husband I would prevent her from even watching on TV. Not good for baby!
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 15 11:42PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 12:07:16 AM UTC-4, Tuan wrote:
 
> > Something like that... shouldn't be flying...
 
> > P
 
> If I was her husband I would prevent her from even watching on TV. Not good for baby!
 
For one, she's not married and as if her boyfriend or anybody could prevent Serena from doing anything. She does what she wants.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 16 07:33PM +1000

On 16/07/2017 2:07 PM, Tuan wrote:
 
>> Something like that... shouldn't be flying...
 
>> P
 
> If I was her husband I would prevent her from even watching on TV. Not good for baby!
 
Wait til Court1 reads this post - boy you're going to cop it.
 
Remember how Mirka makes Stan cry? She has nothing on Court1.
 
: )
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 16 07:17PM +1000


>>> P
 
>> She's really lovely. I loved how she dealt with her nerves and misfiring forehands to start the match and kept enough pressure on Venus to finally run away with it like she did... Amazing! Hope she starts dominating the game now.
 
> Amazingly natural personality! Impossible not to like her.
 
I see some similarities with Ana Ivanovic.
 
 
 
 
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ahonkan <ahonkan@gmail.com>: Jul 16 02:23AM -0700

> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 3:34:32 PM UTC-7, kaennorsing wrote:
 
> > She's really lovely. I loved how she dealt with her nerves and misfiring forehands to start the match and kept enough pressure on Venus to finally run away with it like she did... Amazing! Hope she starts dominating the game now.
 
> Amazingly natural personality! Impossible not to like her.
 
Everybody thought she was the real deal after reaching the Wimbledon final
in 2015 and winning the FO in 2016. But she suffered a puzzling loss of
form and went through some really bad losses where it seemed she liked to
throw the towel instead of fighting. It is great she won here and hope she
keeps it up. The women's game is too unpredictable w/o Serena and it is
doubtful how hungry Serena will be if/ when she returns.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jul 16 07:13PM +1000

On 16/07/2017 7:32 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you+tube+sympathy+violin&view=detail&mid=4262649E4113558410594262649E411355841059&FORM=VIRE
 
 
 
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calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 15 10:05PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 1:04:34 AM UTC+2, Garvin Yee wrote:
 
> A 3 setter is not a beatdown, by definition, as the opponent still
> won a set.
 
When Navratilova lost the 1988 Wimbledon final 7-5 2-6 1-6 to Graf after leading 7-5 2-0 she herself called that a beatdown.
 
Max
Darkfalz <darkfalz.public@gmail.com>: Jul 16 12:57AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 9:04:34 AM UTC+10, Garvin Yee wrote:
> won a set.
 
> But really weird how Venus' game completely collapsed after the
> first set....wow....
 
I said a BO5 is necessary for women in slams from semis onwards, and that I'd rather watch a 3 set beatdown (where the player needs to be on fire for more than 1 hour) than a 2 set beatdown.
Garvin Yee <drsmith004@gmail.com>: Jul 16 02:03AM -0700

On 7/16/2017 12:57 AM, Darkfalz wrote:
 
>> But really weird how Venus' game completely collapsed after the
>> first set....wow....
 
> I said a BO5 is necessary for women in slams from semis onwards, and that I'd rather watch a 3 set beatdown (where the player needs to be on fire for more than 1 hour) than a 2 set beatdown.
 
Again, if both players win at least one set, that's not a beatdown
in my book.
 
Even a straight sets win can be very competitive. But a 6-2, 6-2
is a beatdown, and especially a double breadstick or double bagel.
 
 
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Darkfalz <darkfalz.public@gmail.com>: Jul 16 01:20AM -0700


> > Trump treat Macron like the little nobody he is.
 
> Macron and Merkel are the leaders of Europe.
> The nobodies are the Brits now. On their way into obscurity on the world stage. A third-rate power.
 
Leading them right off a cliff. The average IQ of France has dropped 4 points in 10 years. 10 years! It would have taken hundreds to increase it by the same amount, one miserable death at a time.
 
How much has Germany's dropped after Merkel's experiment? How much further will the birthrate of native Germans (you know, the ones with the big brains who make the economy work) drop after the increased tax burden and fear of raising children in the world Merkel created is factored in?
 
The Poles and Hungarians will be the most intelligent Europeans soon, on average, simply because they haven't imported inbred, differently evolved masses.
Darkfalz <darkfalz.public@gmail.com>: Jul 16 12:59AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 9:56:47 AM UTC+10, undecided wrote:
 
> > If 37 year old women are making the final, really speaks volumes about the depth of the women's game.
 
> > That being said, I watched about 30 minutes of Cilic and Querry the other day. I know it has ever been thus at Wimbledon (at least for the last 30 years) but fuck me, two giant dudes hitting massive serves until one of them flounders and can't return rally balls, I'd rather watch second rate women's tennis match than that any day of the week. I hope Fed dismantles him.
 
> You'd rather have a 6'1'' guy hit massive serves? Fed would have zero wimbledons without his serve. It's probably better than Querrey's and Cilic's combined.
 
Of course it is. It takes a lot more skill and variety. He's not hitting it out of a tree like the other two.
calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 16 12:44AM -0700

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:39:07 AM UTC+2, Court_1 wrote:
 
> She's a basket case and no, you don't finger-wag the crowd to stop applauding for you when you exit an arena because you couldn't handle the support the crowd was giving the home player. This is a sport.
 
> I like Muguruza's tennis when she plays well and can find the court instead of making error after error but I don't like her attitude. I've seen or read about her meltdowns too often since she won her FO.
 
> Mladenovic made something like 17 double faults today and Muguruza couldn't deal with that? She may end up as a one-slam wonder. She's weak mentally.
 
 
Oops, the mentally weak basket case won a match yesterday ...
 
 
Max
calimero377@gmx.de: Jul 15 10:00PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 2:27:09 AM UTC+2, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Are you PAUL? Speaking of which where is Paul THESE DAYS?
 
PAUL HAS BEEN SILENCED!
 
ALLAH IS GREAT!
 
 
Max
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 15 11:39PM -0700

On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 8:27:09 PM UTC-4, soccerfan777 wrote:
> Are you PAUL? Speaking of which where is Paul THESE DAYS?
 
Colonel Bernie Sanders losing did him in.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jul 15 11:21PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 12:22:12 AM UTC-4, SliceAndDice wrote:
 
> I knew you especially would love it :)
 
It's like I wrote the words myself! :)
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jul 16 06:41AM +0100

1 Andy Murray 7,750
2 Rafael Nadal 7,465
3 -1 Novak Djokovic 6,325
4 -1 Stan Wawrinka 6,140
5 Roger Federer 5,745 if wins Final = 6,545 #3
6 Marin Čilić 5,075 if wins Final = 5,875 #5
7 +1 Dominic Thiem 4,030
8 +1 Kei Nishikori 3,740
9 -2 Milos Raonic 3,310
10 +2 Alexander Zverev 3,160
11 Grigor Dimitrov 3,160
12 -2 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 2,805
13 +1 Gaël Monfils 2,775
14 -1 David Goffin 2,605
15 Tomáš Berdych 2,570
16 +1 Pablo Carreño Busta 2,350
17 +1 Jack Sock 2,290
18 -2 Lucas Pouille 2,255
19 Roberto Bautista Agut 2,245
20 Nick Kyrgios 1,940
21 +5 Gilles Müller 1,885
22 -1 John Isner 1,885
23 +5 Sam Querrey 1,855
24 -2 Albert Ramos Viñolas 1,725
25 Feliciano López 1,595
26 -3 Ivo Karlović 1,595
27 +2 Fabio Fognini 1,475
28 +2 Mischa Zverev 1,461
29 -5 Pablo Cuevas 1,425
30 -3 Richard Gasquet 1,390
31 Steve Johnson 1,305
32 Juan Martín del Potro 1,280
33 +1 Karen Khachanov 1,249
34 -1 Paolo Lorenzi 1,223
35 +7 Kevin Anderson 1,140
36 Gilles Simon 1,095
37 +9 Benoit Paire 1,095
38 -1 Diego Schwartzman 1,085
39 -4 Fernando Verdasco 1,070
40 +1 Ryan Harrison 1,038
 
If Federer wins the final top 10 is:
 
1 Andy Murray 7,750
2 Rafael Nadal 7,465
3 +2 Roger Federer 6,545
4 -2 Novak Djokovic 6,325
5 -2 Stan Wawrinka 6,140
6 Marin Čilić 5,075
7 +1 Dominic Thiem 4,030
8 +1 Kei Nishikori 3,740
9 -2 Milos Raonic 3,310
10 +2 Alexander Zverev 3,160
 
If Čilić wins final top 10 is:
 
1 Andy Murray 7,750
2 Rafael Nadal 7,465
3 -1 Novak Djokovic 6,325
4 -1 Stan Wawrinka 6,140
5 +1 Marin Čilić 5,875
6 -1 Roger Federer 5,745
7 +1 Dominic Thiem 4,030
8 +1 Kei Nishikori 3,740
9 -2 Milos Raonic 3,310
10 +2 Alexander Zverev 3,160
 
Points to be defended until end of 2017
 
Murray 5,460
Nadal 370
Federer 0
Djokovic 3,740
Wawrinka 2,990
Čilić 2,350
Thiem 820
Nishikori 2,045
Raonic 1,615
Zverev 585
 
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Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jul 16 06:16AM +0100

1 +2 Karolína Plíšková 6,855
2 Simona Halep 6,670
3 -2 Angelique Kerber 5,975
4 +3 Johanna Konta 5,110
5 +10 Garbiñe Muguruza 4,990
6 -1 Elina Svitolina 4,935
7 -1 Caroline Wozniacki 4,780
8 Svetlana Kuznetsova 4,500
9 +2 Venus Williams 4,461
10 Agnieszka Radwańska 3,985
11 -2 Dominika Cibulková 3,710
12 +1 Jeļena Ostapenko 3,530
13 -1 Petra Kvitová 3,135
14 Kristina Mladenovic 3,155
15 -11 Serena Williams 2,810
16 +2 Madison Keys 2,353
17 +2 Anastasija Sevastova 2,235
18 -1 Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova 2,160
19 -3 Elena Vesnina 2,121
20 +2 Caroline Garcia 1,955
21 +4 Coco Vandeweghe 1,848
22 +7 Ana Konjuh 1,785
23 -3 Timea Bacsinszky 1,764
24 -3 Daria Gavrilova 1,740
25 -2 Barbora Strýcová 1,725
26 +2 Mirjana Lučić-Baroni 1,632
27 -1 Lauren Davis 1,601
28 +3 Zhang Shuai 1,550
29 +6 Lesia Tsurenko 1,543 *
30 +7 Shuai Peng 1,525 *
31 -1 Daria Kasatkina 1,520
32 +6 Anett Kontaveit 1,510 *
33 -6 Carla Suárez Navarro 1,475
34 -10 Kiki Bertens 1,386
35 -3 Laura Siegemund 1,381
36 -3 Roberta Vinci 1,375
37 -1 Samantha Stosur 1,335 *
38 +8 Alison Riske 1,335 *
39 +5 Kristyna Pliskova 1,293 *
40 -6 Lucie Šafářová 1,280
 
* It's possible, but unlikely, that these players may lose points from
the Bucharest and/or Gstaad tournaments played w/e 11 Jul 2016.
 
Completely unofficial.
 
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Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jul 15 09:56PM -0700

On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 7:40:37 PM UTC-7, SliceAndDice wrote:
 
> > > Half the people here pretending to root for Venus didn't really want her to win. They were bowing to peer pressure.
 
> > I sure wasn't. Garbine has everything Venus lacks: looks, charm, elegance and the will and motivation to fight for every point... Why root for Venus?
 
> Seems a bit harsh. Venus especially has been through a lot, and that she is still making finals, showing love for the game is very admirable. She could have easily hung up her racquet once Serena completely outshone her or when she was diagnosed with a debilitating autoimmune disorder. But she has continued to fight through it all with grace. And Muguruza has a VERY long way to go to match her. And you do not have to root for her (and Serena) to see that. I certainly do not.
 
It's not harsh at all. Put things in proper perspective.
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