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Sunday, July 16, 2017

soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:44AM -0700

Completely drunk and partying?
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jul 16 10:38AM -0700

...so the next year Fed has, um, a multi-slam year; then EIGHT YEARS LATER,
has yet another one...
 
Another dumb-ass Aussie.
 
heh
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:39AM -0700

Pat Cash has a very puncheable face
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jul 16 10:42AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:38:20 AM UTC-7, Carey wrote:
> has yet another one...
 
> Another dumb-ass Aussie.
 
> heh
 
 
 
Correction: *NINE* YEARS LATER
 
And yeah, Cash looks like a guy who it'd be fun to punch in the face.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 16 10:40AM -0700

Op zondag 16 juli 2017 17:41:18 UTC+2 schreef RaspingDrive:
> > Obviously I wanted him out of the way, but it's sad to see players melt down on the biggest stage of all. Very odd considering how unflappable he was in the USO final against Federer. Just goes to show that the stakes at Wimbledon are higher than anywhere else.
 
> > Was he really injured? Who knows? If he was just falling apart mentally, calling the trainer might still make sense to save some face and perhaps disrupt Federer's rhythm. Fortunately that didn't happen.
 
> Big ball 'basher' needs to develop some craftiness on grass.
 
There's truth to this though I don't know if he's capable of it. Cilic is a very robotic player. The minute Federer stopped coming over every ball and started mixing up the return with the slice it was like a virus got installed onto the Cilic hard-drive and he simply unraveled from there... Robots can't handle creative play.
 
Also, it's amazing how well 35 year old Federer still gets so many big serves in play and minimizes the ace count against him. Did it against Raonic, then against Berych, today again with Cilic. These are monster servers but Federer makes them look average... Still. Amazing.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 16 10:42AM -0700

Op zondag 16 juli 2017 18:19:04 UTC+2 schreef SliceAndDice:
> > Obviously I wanted him out of the way, but it's sad to see players melt down on the biggest stage of all. Very odd considering how unflappable he was in the USO final against Federer. Just goes to show that the stakes at Wimbledon are higher than anywhere else.
 
> > Was he really injured? Who knows? If he was just falling apart mentally, calling the trainer might still make sense to save some face and perhaps disrupt Federer's rhythm. Fortunately that didn't happen.
 
> He is still young, hopefully he gets more chances. He certainly has the game.
 
Amazing how 28 is considered young in tennis today. Just a decade or so ago it used to be old and you started thinking about retirement.
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:15AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 8:09:53 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Federer won his 8th Wimbledon.
 
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:))) Enjoy the victory !
 
I'm not hiding, Waleed. Wasn't watching the tournament much anyways (actually have not been watching much tennis for a few years now except for some of the slam SF's/F's). And once Djok lost, I kind of lost interest in the tournament.
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:16AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 8:17:06 AM UTC-7, soccerfan777 wrote:
> He is busy finding holes in Sampras and starting a thoughtful debate.....bwahahahaha
 
You hate Sampras fans that much, huh ?
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:31AM -0700

> And once Djok lost, I kind of lost interest in the tournament.
 
This shows it all ;)
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:34AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:31:08 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > And once Djok lost, I kind of lost interest in the tournament.
 
> This shows it all ;)
 
What does it show ?
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:41AM -0700

I don't hate them at least at this point. Just feel sad at this point
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:42AM -0700

> What does it show ?
 
Your posts in the past showed how much you never wanted Federer to win the 8th and for you to stop watching after Djokovic lost simply shows how much you hate Federer watching anyone you think can derail Federer's train.
human@whoever.com: Jul 16 10:22AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 8:34:10 AM UTC-7, RaspingDrive wrote:
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> No updates necessary. The number 19 tells it all. The number 14 with a career slam told it all. The 15 told it all. The 16 told it all...
 
Gives him something to do. Life is basically meaningless for him at any rate. He can hang on to some 7/7 vs 8/11 and start calculating percentages.
 
Or grow a new tail.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 16 12:40PM -0500

On 7/16/2017 10:02 AM, Whisper wrote:
 
> Federer 100
> Sampras 80
 
Pretty Amazing. Think of everything Pete accomplished, and it was
incredible, and yet if he won two more W and another USO, he'd still be
behind Federer on 7/5/4/3.
 
 
 
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kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 16 10:26AM -0700

Op zondag 16 juli 2017 18:16:21 UTC+2 schreef StephenJ:
> overall achievements across men and women. Really, he's so out-distanced
> the other men of the Open Era that if you want to challenge him, you
> have to mention Serena, as silly as that kind of comparison is.
 
Very true. Apart from the longevity (perhaps?) Federer is relatively still ahead of Serena though. His records are marginally greater than hers, relative to their respective competitor's broken records.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 16 12:38PM -0500

On 7/16/2017 12:26 PM, kaennorsing wrote:
>> the other men of the Open Era that if you want to challenge him, you
>> have to mention Serena, as silly as that kind of comparison is.
 
> Very true. Apart from the longevity (perhaps?) Federer is relatively still ahead of Serena though. His records are marginally greater than hers, relative to their respective competitor's broken records.
 
Good point. Fed's achievements are relatively greater, and he is
approaching Serena even in absolute terms, which is pretty crazy.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 16 10:33AM -0700

Op zondag 16 juli 2017 18:09:23 UTC+2 schreef soccerfan777:
> That would have meant a calendar slam at this age!
 
Unlikely, with Rafa at a career high level. He may have beaten everyone apart from Rafa though, but he obviously didn't fancy it.
 
And, of course, even IF he did he may have then lost Wimbledon, so I'm glad he didn't.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:36AM -0700

No he wouldn't have won it and it meant nothing for him. He wanted Wimbledon and playing there would lower his chances.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:35AM -0700

Funny really
human@whoever.com: Jul 16 10:11AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 9:49:55 AM UTC-7, StephenJ wrote:
> After today's match, Mac said that Pete thought that after he won
> Wimbledon #7, nobody would catch him in a million years.
 
> This has to be just about as tough as the day Fed won slam #15. Brutal.
 
Nah, Sampras made his peace when Fed got to 14 and had the career slam. He just miscalculated given his own struggles to first top 12, and then finish with 14. That was a monumental feat.
 
The last guy before him to get into double digit slams was Borg, and he quite with the pressures at 26.
 
The only ones who keep getting gutted are mindless fanatics who swore by 7543, then switched from GOAT to BOAT to H2H to considering 2014, 2015 Federer to be "PEAK", then WEAK era, ...
 
And are still sucking wind or dick, as they project a Fedal final at the USO '17 which somehow is going to leave the year tied with TWO SLAMS each.
 
 
That being the same ass, who claimed that you win Wimbledon and one more slam, and that is the best for the year.
 
Sampras was and is a great champion. Possibly had the perfect game for the 90s grass. Federer is more versatile, and now has bragging rights with his 8th. But it is not as if it undoes even the slightest of Sampras's accomplishments
 
So Jaros, keep needling that asshole, that is all these Sampras digs are good for, it is not as if you believe it yourself
AZ <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:27AM -0700


> That being the same ass, who claimed that you win Wimbledon and one more slam, and that is the best for the year.
 
> Sampras was and is a great champion. Possibly had the perfect game for the 90s grass. Federer is more versatile, and now has bragging rights with his 8th. But it is not as if it undoes even the slightest of Sampras's accomplishments
 
> So Jaros, keep needling that asshole, that is all these Sampras digs are good for, it is not as if you believe it yourself
 
Great post. Exactly what needs to be said.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jul 16 12:35PM -0500


> And are still sucking wind or dick, as they project a Fedal final at the USO '17 which somehow is going to leave the year tied with TWO SLAMS each.
 
> That being the same ass, who claimed that you win Wimbledon and one more slam, and that is the best for the year.
 
> Sampras was and is a great champion.
 
No question he was, and I agree that objectively, nothing Fed does
should be tough for Pete. He's got those 7 W titles, 14 GS titles, a
gorgeous wife, tens of millions in the bank, will always be famous and
with the highest public reputation, and he's got 30-40 years in front of
him to enjoy all of it.
 
Still, the sporting ego is tough. Despite all he has, I bet it was a
tough day for Pete seeing Fed win #8. Being the undisputed Wimbledon
King was the thing he took pride in the most.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:33AM -0700

He doesn't have the fastest serve but his serve is just out of this world, combined with his game is just powerful.
 
Talking about Federer
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jul 16 10:08AM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 7:53:43 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
> Fed is the Wimbledon GOAT!
 
> Suck it Whisper, Shakes, Bob, Iceberg, etc.
 
:( But congrats to Fed. Amazing achievement, really !!
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jul 16 10:12AM -0700

Op zondag 16 juli 2017 17:10:16 UTC+2 schreef soccerfan777:
> Year end #1... Lol that bogus irrelevant stat. The only one that matters is weeks as #1
 
Actually, I hope Federer gets his 6th year end #1 this year. That would be fitting, especially if it's achieved with another USO and/or WTF title... All would be all time records. Oldest year end #1 also, maybe?
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