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Thursday, July 13, 2017

BK@Onramp.net: Jul 13 10:10AM -0500

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 05:26:25 -0500 (CDT), Moderate
 
>> His version is going to get him in a pile of trouble. What a dumb
>> move to be his own "Deep Throat". He is his father's son though.
 
>How so?
 
Don't be credulous.
BK@Onramp.net: Jul 13 12:31PM -0500

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:14:07 -0500 (CDT), Moderate
 
>Really? What trouble?
 
The question is so idiotic there's no reason to reply.
Try following the news either on radio, TV or the Internet.
It's over all of the media.
BK@Onramp.net: Jul 13 01:29PM -0500

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 13:09:24 -0500 (CDT), Moderate
>> It's over all of the media.
 
>I did that. The only people alleging he is in trouble are fake
> news sites and ignorant fools like you. Nothing specific.
 
You are so full of shit it is pitiful. There is no fake news on this
at all and if you had a trace of character you'd know that.
 
There are lawyers and legal experts from universities who have given
opinions. Those have been shown by the media. Jr. Fucked up by lies
in the first place and making a meeting to gather dirt on Hillary
Clinton. He may face criminal charges and definitely will be called
by the bipartisan committee investigating the Russian situations.
That is obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense, which
doesn't include you. You fit right in with the Trump thinking....lie,
lie, lie.
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Jul 13 02:44PM -0500

> That is obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense, which
> doesn't include you. You fit right in with the Trump thinking....lie,
> lie, lie.
 
Hillary sought dirt on Trump from the Ukrainians. Where are her criminal
charges? LOL!
 
Also pretty fishy that that so-called Russian lawyer was let in country
by Loretta Lynch after she was denied. Hmmmmm.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Jul 13 02:10PM -0700

There are lawyers and legal experts from universities who have given
opinions. Those have been shown by the media. Jr. Fucked up by lies
in the first place and making a meeting to gather dirt on Hillary
Clinton. He may face criminal charges and definitely will be called
by the bipartisan committee investigating the Russian situations.
That is obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense, which
doesn't include you.
 
That is pure bullshit. He did not violate any laws. Your talking heads/experts are paid hacks. The only facts that really matter or what Trump Junior presented with the email thread and what molar on covers. Until then, it's pure speculation from a bunch of partisans who have time to fill on a 24/7 new cycle. The American public knows this and have deserted at CNN. Nick at Night gets higher ratings than they do.
Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 13 05:25AM -0500


>>He will get shit canned if he attempts to meddle in future elections. :-)
 
> That isn't what happened with Comey. Wray is open to investigating
> the whole administration.
 
It is exactly what happened with Comey.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 13 05:26AM -0500


>>Confirming Don jr version of events.
 
> His version is going to get him in a pile of trouble. What a dumb
> move to be his own "Deep Throat". He is his father's son though.
 
How so?
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 13 11:14AM -0500

>>> move to be his own "Deep Throat". He is his father's son though.
 
>>How so?
 
> Don't be credulous.
 
Really? What trouble?
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 13 01:09PM -0500


> The question is so idiotic there's no reason to reply.
> Try following the news either on radio, TV or the Internet.
> It's over all of the media.
 
I did that. The only people alleging he is in trouble are fake
news sites and ignorant fools like you. Nothing specific.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 13 02:30PM -0500

> That is obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense, which
> doesn't include you. You fit right in with the Trump thinking....lie,
> lie, lie.
 
So you have nothing.
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-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>: Jul 13 03:39AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 11:59:17 PM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
> > witch hunt. When are you going to wake up and stop blindly thinking
> > that Trump is qualified to be POTUS. The GOP is about to bolt.
 
> GOP is not bolting...unless you're talking about McCain, who needs to retire.
 
The GOP is increasingly walking on eggshells. Don't you recall how
they've been hiding from their own constituents and the raucous raised
in the Town Halls a few have tried?
 
Oh, and trying to bail on McCain? Famous for being a party Maverick?
At least he's got the balls to actually try to be a Statesman again, all the
while the rest are being a pack of cockroaches, afraid of sunlight.
 
> Trump beat your 2 candidates ...
 
Nope. Trump only ran against Hillary.
 
> and 16 Republican....
 
Not really - that's a very liberal interpretation, as primary races by
intent invariably start broad, since their purpose is to narrow down.
Particularly early on when the field is wide, most who drop out do
so not because of qualifications or party positions, but simply
because they lack the money. Now do you really want to go down
the rabbit hole of having to admit that Trump was successful because
he was able to buy his way in?
 
> fair n square.
 
Not really - some will point out that the popular vote didn't determine
the POTUS, because of historical anomalies in the Electoral College
which result in skewed representation (undermines equal representation
which people believe that 'one man, one vote' represents). Plus there's
been evidence accumulating on foreign actors being successful in
influencing the overall election process -- where those who don't like
to hear this try to redefine what "manipulation" means as being nothing
less than direct manipulation ("hacking") of voting machines. And then
there's been yet another member of the Trump team who's been now
clearly caught working with foreign entities without proper disclosure.
And so on...the list is increasingly long to the point of being tiresome.
 
 
> Get over it.
 
Oh, poor snowflake is already tired of "Winning"?
 
Well then, you're going to enjoy the crap that hits the fan today & tomorrow
from the latest GOP Healthcare Abomination Proposal becoming public.
Yeah, I guess I'd be in a bad mood too.
 
 
Oh, and here's another chapter reporting in:
 
Another special election ... and this time, its +2 Democratic seats
 
<http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article160664109.html>
 
FWIW, I caught part of a report last night that also said that these two
elections 'vastly outperformed' (or something like that) those districts'
past performance measures. IIRC, the same was also true for the GA
special election, although their degree of 'outperform' wasn't enough
to overcome the structural red advantage of that gerrymandered district
to actually flip the seat.
 
 
-hh
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Jul 13 07:43AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 11:59:17 PM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
 
> GOP is not bolting...unless you're talking about McCain, who needs to retire.
> Trump beat your 2 candidates and 16 Republican....fair n square.
> Get over it.
 
Maybe they're not bolting exactly (where would they go?), but when was the last time you heard a Republican senator speak highly of Trump?
He can't muster 51 votes for any important legislation he favors.
BK@Onramp.net: Jul 13 09:50AM -0500

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 20:59:14 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
 
>GOP is not bolting...unless you're talking about McCain, who needs to retire.
>Trump beat your 2 candidates and 16 Republican....fair n square.
>Get over it.
 
That's getting old. The outcome of the election has nothing to do
with the fact that you won't own up to knowing what a mess Trump is
creating. McCain isn't the only one that's losing confidence in him
either.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Jul 13 08:27AM -0700

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 20:59:14 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com>
wrote:
 
 
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That's getting old. The outcome of the election has nothing to do
with the fact that you won't own up to knowing what a mess Trump is
creating. McCain isn't the only one that's losing confidence in him
either.
 
What's old (besides you :-) is the constant Trump hate. He could balance the budget and effect bipartisan legislation but libs and their press would still anklebite. At the end of the day, it's all smoke and not one shred of evidence/fire. Meanwhile the Republican agenda presses on, despite the shrieking.
BK@Onramp.net: Jul 13 11:12AM -0500

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:27:08 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>creating. McCain isn't the only one that's losing confidence in him
>either.
 
>What's old (besides you :-) is the constant Trump hate. He could balance the budget and effect bipartisan legislation but libs and their press would still anklebite.
 
Anything he might do well wouldn't alter the kind of person he is.
Anklebite? I'm hoping for impeachment or his resignation.
 
 
>t the end of the day, it's all smoke and not one shred of evidence/fire. Meanwhile the Republican
>agenda presses on, despite the shrieking.
 
It is not pressing very much. They haven't passed anything of
importance yet, and healthcare looks very possibly going down.
We've had six months of governmental nothingness.
 
You think that Jr's lies and stupidity is smoke? Wake up Greg.
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Jul 13 09:39AM -0700

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 11:27:10 AM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
> creating. McCain isn't the only one that's losing confidence in him
> either.
 
> What's old (besides you :-) is the constant Trump hate. He could balance the budget and effect bipartisan legislation but libs and their press would still anklebite. At the end of the day, it's all smoke and not one shred of evidence/fire. Meanwhile the Republican agenda presses on, despite the shrieking.
 
He could never do any of those things. He has accomplished nothing of
note so far and it's unlikely he ever will. The Republicans own the
White House, the House, the Senate and the Supreme Court and they
can't accomplish a goddamn thing. People like you, who still support
Trump, are a rapidly diminishing minority. He has almost no support
among Congressional Republicans. Yet you blame it all on liberals and
the press. Get real.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Jul 13 10:05AM -0700

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He could never do any of those things. He has accomplished nothing of
note so far and it's unlikely he ever will. The Republicans own the
White House, the House, the Senate and the Supreme Court and they
can't accomplish a goddamn thing. People like you, who still support
Trump, are a rapidly diminishing minority. He has almost no support
among Congressional Republicans. Yet you blame it all on liberals and
the press. Get real.
 
It's early! :-)
Meanwhile, you think that Dems could get off their Partisan asses and actually approve some appointments. That would be good for the country; but that's an irrelevant reason to those who put party first.
BK@Onramp.net: Jul 13 12:25PM -0500

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:05:49 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>the press. Get real.
 
>It's early! :-)
>Meanwhile, you think that Dems could get off their Partisan asses and actually approve some appointments. That would be good for the country; but that's an irrelevant reason to those who put party first.
 
Trump's nominee for FBI director is going to be passed with Democrats
approval.
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Jul 13 12:03PM -0700

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 1:05:51 PM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
> the press. Get real.
 
> It's early! :-)
> Meanwhile, you think that Dems could get off their Partisan asses and actually approve some appointments. That would be good for the country; but that's an irrelevant reason to those who put party first.
 
They're not responsible for approving appointments.
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>: Jul 13 12:11PM -0700

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 11:27:10 AM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
>> either.
 
> What's old (besides you :-) is the constant Trump hate. He could
> balance the budget ...
 
But he hasn't balanced the budget.
 
> and effect bipartisan legislation ...
 
But he hasn't done that either (and it is now Day 174).
 
> ... but libs and their press would still anklebite.
 
There's really been more self-nukes than opposition.
 
 
> At the end of the day, it's all smoke and not one
> shred of evidence/fire.
 
But such cases of "smoke" were good enough for Benghazi,
were they not?
 
 
> Meanwhile the Republican agenda presses on, despite the shrieking.
 
Yes, the _agenda_ does (try to) press on, but what actual
real (meaningful) scores have there been?
 
Best that one can say is that 45 appointed a Supreme Court seat,
but that's problematic because that seat became vacated in Obama's
term months before the fall election but the Republicans insisted
on sitting on their Partisan asses and deliberately not perform
their solemnly sworn duty of their offices in the Senate, by
deliberating & voting on Obama's nomination for said appointment.
 
That's why it has been, and always will be known in the history
books, as a tainted, "stolen" seat.
 
 
-hh
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Jul 13 10:14AM -0700

A little bit of Best of Bill. Miss that guy!
 
"As an American, I have had quite enough of of Trump hysteria and demand that the press practice the Missouri model: show me.
 
Or shut up."
 
And....
 
"There have been so many smoking guns that the mainstream media should have stage 4 emphysema by now."
BK@Onramp.net: Jul 13 10:09AM -0500

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 05:25:54 -0500 (CDT), Moderate
 
>> That isn't what happened with Comey. Wray is open to investigating
>> the whole administration.
 
>It is exactly what happened with Comey.
 
Wrong. That was said in Rosenstein's letter
, but Trump said that didn't matter he was going to fire him anyway.
He even mentioned that Comey and the Russian situation played a role
in his decision.
 
May 12: After we posted our story, NBC News posted the full interview
with Trump. The president said that he thought about "this Russia
thing with Trump and Russia" when he decided to fire Comey.
 
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/05/trump-fire-comey/
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Jul 13 08:32AM -0700

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 05:25:54 -0500 (CDT), Moderate
 
>BK@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
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>> That isn't what happened with Comey. Wray is open to investigating
>> the whole administration.
 
>It is exactly what happened with Comey.
 
Wrong. That was said in Rosenstein's letter
, but Trump said that didn't matter he was going to fire him anyway.
He even mentioned that Comey and the Russian situation played a role
in his decision.
 
May 12: After we posted our story, NBC News posted the full interview
with Trump. The president said that he thought about "this Russia
thing with Trump and Russia" when he decided to fire Comey.
 
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/05/trump-fire-comey/
 
Ever consider that all these issues were factors? What is factual is that the Democrats hated him for good cause, until he was fired by someone they hate more. Hypocrisy to the nth degree.
"DumbedDownUSA" <dumb.america@gmail.com>: Jul 13 04:19PM

Dene wrote:
 
 
> Ever consider that all these issues were factors? What is factual is
> that the Democrats hated him for good cause, until he was fired by
> someone they hate more. Hypocrisy to the nth degree.
 
More conflating two issiues than hypocrisy.
 
AIUI they thought he played a role in influencing the election which he
should not have done. If he had been fired for that they would not have
complained for sure.
 
Trump fired him because of the Russia investigation. They thought that
was wrong.
 
That is not hypocrisy. It is two separate issues.
 
Trump lauded him as a hero and a great guy then fired him claiming
incompetence... that was hypocrisy.
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Jul 13 09:44AM -0700

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 11:32:16 AM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
> thing with Trump and Russia" when he decided to fire Comey.
 
> http://www.factcheck.org/2017/05/trump-fire-comey/
 
> Ever consider that all these issues were factors? What is factual is that the Democrats hated him for good cause, until he was fired by someone they hate more. Hypocrisy to the nth degree.
 
Dems don't like Comey any more than they did after he reopened the HRC
e-mail investigation just before the election. What they object to is
Trump firing him in order to sabotage an investigation into campaign collusion w/Russia. That's not hypocrisy.
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