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Friday, July 7, 2017

Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 07 05:13AM -0500

> change facts. Trump is a terrible person, and president. I don't
> understand what you see in him or why you excuse his obvious gaffes
> and faults.
 
BS. They are liberals. They falsify sources and spin lies.
 
They warp news.
 
 
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 07 05:16AM -0500

> that there is also an FBI investigation under way led by Robert
> Mueller. I suppose you agree with Trump that they're running a
> witch hunt.
 
Why are Democrats withholding the key piece of evidence from Mueller?
Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 07 05:54AM -0500

Loretta Lynch colluded with Clinton campaign to stall the FBI
investigation.
 
http://tinyurl.com/y9r6edtt
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 07 07:51AM -0500

>> On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 11:12:53 PM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
 
>> Witchhunt until proven otherwise.
 
> It's a witchhunt like Watergate, only the crimes are far more serious.
 
Not at all like Watergate. The media is purposely publishing
lies. They privately admit there is nothing to the Trump
collusion.
 
Then we have the Democrats refusing to release a key piece of
evidence. There is actual evidence of their collusion with
Russia.
 
Idiots.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 07 07:54AM -0500

>> My position has gone to the right because I'm tired of 16 years of weak presidents and gridlock.
 
> You can attribute this era of gridlock to its inventor: Newt Gringrich. Remember how he
> obstructed and did the first govt shutdown?
 
You mean when Gingrich balanced the budget? The requirements of
which Obama actively stopped and drove us into obese
debt.
 
I remember.
Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 07 12:33PM -0500


>>Hey, If a community organizer can do it..
 
> You can't possibly compare Trump's foreign policy knowledge with
> Obama's. Oh, I guess you could but it would make you look silly.
 
Obama's foreign policy gave us:
 
Russia in Crimea
Russia in Ukraine
Russia in Syria
ISIS everywhere.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 07 01:02PM -0500


> And what has Trump done about any of that? How are we to keep Russia
> out of those three areas. War?
 
> As far as Syria, one bombing which made no difference.
 
ISIS has been rolled back. Marines are shelling them 24/7. Keep up.
 
U.S. Marines (@USMC) tweeted at 7:00 PM on Thu, Jul 06, 2017:
Weather forecast for ISIS ? steel rain. https://t.co/pEJvBeopNV
(https://twitter.com/USMC/status/883113359213711361?s=03)
 
Trump told Putin Syria is not getting the land liberated from ISIS.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 07 02:00PM -0500


>> After the election. Why did he not do this before the election, so as to limit their meddling?
 
> Because the Obama administration didn't give a fuck about it until
> Hillary lost.
 
True dat. The Russians hacking servers had to be tamped down.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 07 02:02PM -0500


> <http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/obamacare-haters-freaking-out-over-new-report.html>
 
> -hh
 
This source is completely false and misleading.
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Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>: Jul 07 02:06PM -0500

>> lies. They privately admit there is nothing to the Trump
>> collusion.
 
> So you're involved with their private discussions. LOL
 
Absolutely. They were made public by Veritas.
 
>> evidence. There is actual evidence of their collusion with
>> Russia.
 
> Again, how in the world could you know this?
 
Wikileaks.
 
 
>>Idiots.
 
> Prove that.
 
Just did.
 
 
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BK@Onramp.net: Jul 07 12:21PM -0500


>> Oh, for Christ's sake. Your posts get more ridiculous every day.
>> Nothing ever leaks out of the Intel Committee.
 
>Edward Snowden says hi.
 
When was he on an Intel Committee?
BK@Onramp.net: Jul 07 12:22PM -0500

>> makes him fit to carry on negotiations on foreign policy issues he
>> knows nothing about?
 
>Hey, If a community organizer can do it..
 
You can't possibly compare Trump's foreign policy knowledge with
Obama's. Oh, I guess you could but it would make you look silly.
BK@Onramp.net: Jul 07 12:24PM -0500


>> Trump's speeches during the inaugural, state of the union, and now Poland are among the best speeches I've ever heard.
 
>I guess you must not listen to many speeches.
 
>I listened to a lot of O's speeches....full of empty promises.
 
List them and don't use that "you can keep your doctor" parroting.
BK@Onramp.net: Jul 07 12:34PM -0500

>"proven" to be a BS story. Perhaps you would be so kind as to tell us
>who proved it and when.
 
>BS was the word that the CNN producers used. I happen to be agree with him. I have noticed that CNN is not emphasizing the story anymore. I'm sure they'll find something else contrived to talk about. God forbid they discuss anything positive going on. Hear about the jobs report?
 
Did you hear about the fact that income is down, or static at best?
 
>He imposed sanctions on Russian diplomats in the US and kicked some
>of them out. What did you want him to do, bomb Moscow?
 
>After the election. Why did he not do this before the election, so as to limit their meddling?
 
How would that have limited their meddling? That was being done FROM
Russia.
BK@Onramp.net: Jul 07 12:36PM -0500

>his lies come to the forefront, and there are so many of them.
 
>I will agree that he is very very inarticulate.
>But… Unlike his predecessor, actions are what count.
 
Obama did a lot in 8 years, so far what are the actions of Trump that
you think are worth while?
BK@Onramp.net: Jul 07 12:41PM -0500

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 12:33:30 -0500 (CDT), Moderate <nospam@noemail.com>
wrote:
 
>Russia in Ukraine
>Russia in Syria
>ISIS everywhere.
 
And what has Trump done about any of that? How are we to keep Russia
out of those three areas. War?
 
As far as Syria, one bombing which made no difference.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Jul 07 11:02AM -0700

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>his lies come to the forefront, and there are so many of them.
 
>I will agree that he is very very inarticulate.
>But… Unlike his predecessor, actions are what count.
 
Obama did a lot in 8 years, so far what are the actions of Trump that
you think are worth while?
 
You go first. Tell me what Obama did the last six years...
I only have six months of Trump stuff.
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Jul 07 01:14PM -0500


> So? I'll bet that Trump won't say anything like Obama did. He's a
> pussy when it comes to Putin. He didn't even bring hacking up.
> Weakness.
 
How do you know exactly? We're you privy to the private conversation
like you just accused Mod of?
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Jul 07 01:16PM -0500

Dene wrote:
 
> He imposed sanctions on Russian diplomats in the US and kicked some
> of them out. What did you want him to do, bomb Moscow?
 
> After the election. Why did he not do this before the election, so as to limit their meddling?
 
Because the Obama administration didn't give a fuck about it until
Hillary lost.
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Jul 07 01:18PM -0500

John B. wrote:
> Or to revive the coal industry and put all the miners back to work.
> All these things are impossible to achieve. Now why don't you show
> me where and when Obama made promises like those?
 
"Obamacare will save the average family $2500"
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Jul 07 01:19PM -0500

John B. wrote:
>> what they're writing about and neither does Trump.
 
>> Trump's speeches during the inaugural, state of the union, and now Poland are among the best speeches I've ever heard.
 
> Well then you haven't heard very many. I think they were horrible.
 
I sure there are people who heard speeches YOU wrote that think they
were horrible.
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>: Jul 07 11:20AM -0700

Bobby wrote:
> > which Obama actively stopped and drove us into obese debt.
 
> >I remember.
 
> You remember many things incorrectly.
 
Nah, he's just trying to "Gosh, Golly!" claim that Newt was a
genius, by being clever enough to manipulate both Houses to
pass Clinton's Deficit Reduction Act of 1993 without a single
Republican ever voting in favor:
 
"Ultimately every Republican in Congress voted against the bill,
as did a number of Democrats. Vice President Al Gore broke a tie
in the Senate on both the Senate bill and the conference report.
The House bill passed 219-213 on Thursday, May 27, 1993.[1] The
House passed the conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993,
by a vote of 218 to 216 (217 Democrats and 1 independent...voting
in favor; 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against).[2]
The Senate passed the conference report on the last day before
their month's vacation, on Friday, August 6, 1993, by a vote of
51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President Gore voting in favor,
6 Democrats...and 44 Republicans voting against). President
Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
 
The government was able to raise additional revenue, which...helped
balance the budget....[5]"
 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993>
 
In the meantime, Bush Jr's avoidance of any means of improving
revenue to help pay for the Iraq War has already increased the
deficit by $2T, and future liabilities are going to cost $4T more.
That means that just the cost of Iraq is going to roughly be $18,404
per person in the USA, which is $46,564 per Household. Plus interest.
 
 
-hh
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Jul 07 01:21PM -0500


> The difference between Trump and other politicians is when he isn't
> speaking from a prepared speech he's a complete wacko. That's when
> his lies come to the forefront, and there are so many of them.
 
Whereas Obama could barely put a sentence together without a teleprompter.
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>: Jul 07 11:33AM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 2:18:03 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
> > All these things are impossible to achieve. Now why don't you show
> > me where and when Obama made promises like those?
 
> "Obamacare will save the average family $2500"
 
Promise kept:
 
"It is true that he never specified the baseline against
which his $2,500 savings would apply, because political
candidates usually do not detail their baseline
assumptions when they deliver stump speeches. A sensible
interpretation of Obama's promise would be a $2,500
savings against the baseline of existing projections —
Obama's reforms would save the average family $2,500
compared to what would happen if his reforms were not enacted.
That promise, again, has come true."
 
 
<http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/obamacare-haters-freaking-out-over-new-report.html>
 
 
-hh
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Jul 07 12:04PM -0700

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 10:33:36 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
> That promise, again, has come true."
 
> <http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/obamacare-haters-freaking-out-over-new-report.html>
 
> -hh
 
The people who saved money were the ones who qualified for a subsidy. The middle class...those who make 67k or more, got hosed.
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