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Sunday, June 4, 2017

jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:06PM

On Sun, 04 Jun 2017 21:51:17 +0200, *skriptis wrote:
 
> Breitbart otoh... Pure gold.
 
Indeed.... pure comedy gold. Glad we agree on something.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 04 09:51PM +0200

>> what they say, they're very close minded. read all sides first.
 
> Says the guy who cites breitbart, Fox News (mouthpieces for Trump), and
> anonymous sources... you're such a hypocrite bob.
 
What's wrong with breitbart
?
 
Fox is probably most split because they want money so the cater to
both sides. It means they're 50% right.
 
Tucker Carlson is phenomenal intelligent and funny. Others not much.
 
Breitbart otoh... Pure gold.
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Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jun 04 09:35PM +0100

On 04/06/2017 18:58, bob wrote:
>>> news" by any means.
 
>> What?
 
> "what" indeed.
 
That explains it really well.
 
BTW I was being ironic.
 
The other side appears to be biased in the opposite way, and is full of
fake news. It seems to be generally 'written' by high school dropouts,
who appear to know nothing of any consequence.
 
They are amusing though.
 
 
 
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Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Jun 04 01:41PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 4:01:03 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
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LOL, dear God, fukkmesideways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
undecided <costasz@gmail.com>: Jun 04 01:40PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 3:08:32 PM UTC-4, Carey wrote:
> I woulda loved to have seen this. Nadal would win of course, but Muster would get into it big time,
> and not be intimidated at all. Courier-Nadal would be fun too, but Muster... as Connors said, "that
> guy's a goddamn Marine!". Quite the comment considering the source.
 
I would have liked to see Guga vs Nadal at the FO....Guga had a very fluid clay court game.
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 04 11:12PM +0300

... not Paris," he said during his Thursday Rose Garden speech
announcing that he would withdraw the US from the Paris climate deal.
 
It was a clear reference to Pittsburgh's past as a steel and industrial
titan, an image that has given way over the past 30 years to its current
status as a growing healthcare and tech hub located in the Rust Belt.
 
Trump was making a pitch familiar to many who followed his presidential
campaign, claiming that by pulling out of Paris, cities such as
Pittsburgh would see a boon of coal, energy, and factory jobs — the kind
of jobs that were synonymous with Pittsburgh when its streets looked
like this:
 
https://twitter.com/BCAppelbaum/status/870383610955804672/photo/1
 
Many close to the city didn't see things quite the same way as Trump,
including Pittsburgh's mayor, Bill Peduto.
 
"Pittsburgh in the last 30 years has come back from a depression," he
added, noting the mass exodus of coal and steel jobs in the 1970s, which
led to a "very, very bad economy" with high unemployment. "But at the
same time, we didn't invest in our past, we invested in our future. We
are the example of what the Paris Agreement could mean for jobs and the
economy in the United States. And for him to use Pittsburgh as an
example, I can only say it was a far stretch at best."
 
Peduto issued an executive order on Friday signifying that the city
would still follow the Paris Agreement. Peduto said in a statement that
"for decades" the city "has been rebuilding its economy based on hopes
for our people and our future, not on outdated fantasies about our past."
 
Even over the course of the past decade, Pittsburgh has been able to
replace manufacturing job losses with significant growth in the
healthcare and tech sectors.
 
And as The Washington Post noted, Pittsburgh had more people working in
renewable energy fields in 2016 than it did in iron and steel
manufacturing or the coal industry.
 
"Trump has no clue re Pittsburgh," former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell,
a Democrat, tweeted. "It transformed itself by cleaning its environment.
It went from old industrial city to high tech Mecca!"
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/pittsburgh-trump-paris-agreement-2017-6?r=US&IR=T&IR=T
 
"Outdated fantasies ..."? Yup.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 04 11:15PM +0300

Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 4.6.2017 klo 23:12:
> And as The Washington Post noted, Pittsburgh had more people working in
> renewable energy fields in 2016 than it did in iron and steel
> manufacturing or the coal industry.
 
lol
 
Not to mention that Clinton won Pittsburgh, and was for Paris agreement.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 04 10:21PM +0200

>> manufacturing or the coal industry.
 
> lol
 
> Not to mention that Clinton won Pittsburgh, and was for Paris agreement.
 
You really think *that* makes a point?
It's sad.
 
So unintelligent.
 
 
Let me help you. Pittsburgh represent US city, while Paris
represents foreign, and globalist agenda.
 
It doesn't matter if whole city voted against him, he's still won
to help his country, including cities and states that voted
against him.
 
 
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"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 04 11:32PM +0300

On 4.6.2017 23:15, TT wrote:
>> in renewable energy fields in 2016 than it did in iron and steel
>> manufacturing or the coal industry.
 
> lol
 
Yeah, Trump has a nose for failed businesses like nobody else.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 04 11:36PM +0300

*skriptis kirjoitti 4.6.2017 klo 23:21:
 
> You really think *that* makes a point?
> It's sad.
 
> So unintelligent.
 
I agree. Indeed it makes Trump look really stupid to pick a city which
voted to stay with Paris agreement...
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 04 11:02PM +0300

Court_1 kirjoitti 4.6.2017 klo 22:33:
 
>>> Well, to each their own ...
 
>> What, her nose isn't big enough for you? Let me guess--you are German?
 
> Bouchard's ass pimples are better looking than Graf's face. No comparison between the two in the looks dept. Bouchard wins that contest.
 
Ass pimples? :-D
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 04 01:20PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 1:02:29 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> Court_1 kirjoitti 4.6.2017 klo 22:33:
 
> > Bouchard's ass pimples are better looking than Graf's face. No comparison between the two in the looks dept. Bouchard wins that contest.

> Ass pimples? :-D
 
That's cruder than usual for C1.
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jun 04 01:24PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 1:20:06 PM UTC-7, Gracchus wrote:
 
> > > Bouchard's ass pimples are better looking than Graf's face. No comparison between the two in the looks dept. Bouchard wins that contest.
 
> > Ass pimples? :-D
 
> That's cruder than usual for C1.
 
Nobody riles up Court_1 more than Pipe Cleaner and Graf. :)
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 04 11:36PM +0300

On 4.6.2017 23:24, Shakes wrote:
 
>>> Ass pimples? :-D
 
>> That's cruder than usual for C1.
 
> Nobody riles up Court_1 more than Pipe Cleaner and Graf. :)
 
"For a good time call 349-238470".
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 04 11:28PM +0300

On 4.6.2017 22:39, Court_1 wrote:
> On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 2:41:17 PM UTC-4, Guypers wrote:
 
>> Or a peak Novak can beat him in four sets!!
 
> Peak Novak never beat a Nadal in decent form at the FO.
 
But handed Rafa's ass to him in many other clay matches. Peak Novak
butchered Rafa.
 
Novak was a bit unlucky at RG. He was superior in the tummy match. And
lost by a putt one rain-interrupted semi that took a week to play.
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Jun 04 01:34PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 4:28:26 PM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
> butchered Rafa.
 
> Novak was a bit unlucky at RG. He was superior in the tummy match. And
> lost by a putt one rain-interrupted semi that took a week to play.
 
Yes peak Novak can beat peak Rafa on clay, on grass and hc no contest, but would lose to Fed on 3 out of 4!!!!!!
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 04 11:18PM +0300

It wasn't enough for Donald Trump to thumb his nose at humanity and the
planet we occupy. His fragile ego, which can't be strengthened even by
the power of the presidency, demanded that he turn his decision on the
Paris climate treaty into something like a beauty pageant, with suspense
built into his process and a court of lesser-beauties enlisted to praise
him.
 
The run-up to Trump's decision to abandon the Paris treaty included
consultations with world leaders, including Pope Francis, and pleadings
from chief executive officers representing many of the world's leading
companies. Exxon's CEO wrote a personal letter. More than a dozen
others, from Hilton, Unilever, Monsanto and the like also weighed in.
While men and women of goodwill sided with future generations, Trump
took to social media to declare, "I will make my final decision on the
Paris Accord next week!"
 
When the decision day came, Trump required that Vice President Pence
introduce him with the kind of abject but unspecific praise generally
reserved for the honoree at a pancake breakfast. Ignoring his faith and
family, Pence declared that serving Trump is "the greatest privilege of
my life" and then announced, "Thanks to President Donald Trump, America
is back."
 
After pausing for applause, as directed in his script, Pence called
attention to his "admiration" for the scandal-plagued Trump and the
"gratitude" he feels "for his leadership."
Anyone with a shred of humility would have turned red upon hearing
Pence's words. Trump beamed with approval and immediately stood to
praise himself. He said his recent foreign trip was "very, very
successful, believe me" and, of course, his legislative work is going
"very, very well."
 
 
The inexhaustible egos of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton
Michael D&#39;Antonio
By Michael D'Antonio
Updated 1544 GMT (2344 HKT) June 3, 2017
Trump has said often climate change isn't real
Play
Current Time 0:10
Duration Time 1:36
Loaded: 0%Progress: 0%0:10Fullscreen
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Now Playing Trump has said often...
Source: CNN
 
Trump has said often climate change isn't real 01:36
Story highlights
Michael D'Antonio: The world -- and his own aides -- played court to
Donald Trump as he pronounced his decision on the Paris climate change
accord
Meanwhile former rival Hillary Clinton made a new set of excuses for her
defeat, writes D'Antonio
Michael D'Antonio is the author of the book "Never Enough: Donald Trump
and the Pursuit of Success" (St. Martin's Press). The opinions expressed
in this commentary are his.
 
(CNN)It wasn't enough for Donald Trump to thumb his nose at humanity and
the planet we occupy. His fragile ego, which can't be strengthened even
by the power of the presidency, demanded that he turn his decision on
the Paris climate treaty into something like a beauty pageant, with
suspense built into his process and a court of lesser-beauties enlisted
to praise him.
 
The run-up to Trump's decision to abandon the Paris treaty included
consultations with world leaders, including Pope Francis, and pleadings
from chief executive officers representing many of the world's leading
companies. Exxon's CEO wrote a personal letter. More than a dozen
others, from Hilton, Unilever, Monsanto and the like also weighed in.
While men and women of goodwill sided with future generations, Trump
took to social media to declare, "I will make my final decision on the
Paris Accord next week!"
When the decision day came, Trump required that Vice President Pence
introduce him with the kind of abject but unspecific praise generally
reserved for the honoree at a pancake breakfast. Ignoring his faith and
family, Pence declared that serving Trump is "the greatest privilege of
my life" and then announced, "Thanks to President Donald Trump, America
is back."
On tour abroad, Trump does what Obama should have
On tour abroad, Trump does what Obama should have
After pausing for applause, as directed in his script, Pence called
attention to his "admiration" for the scandal-plagued Trump and the
"gratitude" he feels "for his leadership."
Anyone with a shred of humility would have turned red upon hearing
Pence's words. Trump beamed with approval and immediately stood to
praise himself. He said his recent foreign trip was "very, very
successful, believe me" and, of course, his legislative work is going
"very, very well."
 
In the heart of the speech Trump distorted the facts of the Paris
agreement and indulged in the kind of us-against-the-world rhetoric that
suggests the address was written by his Dark Lord adviser -- and chief
cheerleader, Stephen Bannon. When he finished, Trump called on the
Environmental Protection Agency head Scott Pruitt, who also couldn't
praise the boss enough.
 
In 13 paragraphs Pruitt used the words "you" and "your" more than 20
times. A good example: "Please know that I am thankful for your
fortitude -- courage -- and steadfastness as you serve and lead our
country."
 
Servile as Pruitt's display may have been, it wasn't as cringeworthy as
the President's speech. In between his claims to success Trump
referenced himself more than 30 times.
 
Why does the President need to hear so much praise? Perhaps it's because
things aren't going so well. Upon his return from a foreign trip where
he received, at best, mixed reviews, CNN's Gloria Borger reported Trump
was increasingly isolated, angry and depressed. She reported that a
Trump friend said "He now lives within himself, which is a dangerous
place for Donald Trump to be. I see him emotionally withdrawing. He's
gained weight. He doesn't have anybody whom he trusts."
 
Anyone who doubts that Trump was down should consider that this week the
President's aides, who typically praise their boss like he's a Golden
Retriever, amped-up the happy talk to an extraordinary level. Press
Secretary Sean Spicer said Trump's trip "was a historic turning point
that people will be talking about for years to come," and that he had
"united the civilized world in the fight against terrorism and
extremism." This came after spokeswoman Hope Hicks issued a high school
yearbook-style statement of praise that could be mistaken for parody.
Here's just a sample:
 
"President Trump has a magnetic personality and exudes positive energy,
which is infectious to those around him. He has an unparalleled ability
to communicate with people...he has built great relationships throughout
his life and treats everyone with respect. He is brilliant with a great
sense of humor ... "
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/03/opinions/inexhaustible-egos-of-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-opinion-dantonio/index.html
 
:)
 
You can read the Hillary portion of it from the link.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 04 02:55PM -0400

On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
 
>> i thought it was a mediocre movie. saw it a few times now, it's blah.
>> PC.
 
>I remember it as visually pleasing, story ok, but the acting often more melodramatic than convincing or emotionally moving. But maybe I'll see it in a different light in viewing again after so many years.
 
it's what you said: a swan song for h fonda. overrated IMO.
 
bob
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 04 11:13PM +0300

Gracchus kirjoitti 4.6.2017 klo 22:13:
> I do remember some emotionally effective scenes, mostly Hepburn making them work. The ones between Henry and Jane not so much. But again, it's been ages since I've seen it and probably need to give it another look.
 
Maybe you should see a Golden Pond & Laura Mars double feature?
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 04 01:17PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 1:13:06 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> Gracchus kirjoitti 4.6.2017 klo 22:13:
 
> > I do remember some emotionally effective scenes, mostly Hepburn making them work. The ones between Henry and Jane not so much. But again, it's been ages since I've seen it and probably need to give it another look.
 
> Maybe you should see a Golden Pond & Laura Mars double feature?
 
I'd probably leave in a straitjacket.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 04 02:59PM -0400

On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 19:49:47 +0100, Brian W Lawrence
>whether they are or not.
 
>Trump's travel ban was rejected by the courts partly because it gave the
>appearance of being a 'Muslim ban'.
 
it was "rejected by courts" because a judge with an opposing political
view heard the case.
 
brian, the usa is a divided nation right now. we're not 1 america
anymore unfortunately. sooner you realize that, sooner you'll
understand what's going on.
 
>We need to be smart, vigilant and tough. We need the courts to give us
>back our rights. We need the Travel Ban as an extra level of safety!"
>So he's on record as saying IT IS a travel ban. Not smart.
 
if a pro trump judge (or court) heard the case, it's a ban. if not,
it'll be "unconstitutional."
 
judges are just as biased in many cases as the press.
 
bob
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 04 11:01PM +0300

> Remember this alleged "97 % of all scientists consensus"?
 
100% of serious scientists most likely.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 04 09:46PM +0200


> did reagan (CA), clinton (NY) or bush I and II (TX) stick around DC
> after their terms? nope, only obama. really bad form.
 
> bob
 
How about going to Germany recently, meeting with Merkel and
giving speeches in Berlin, all that before those NATO and G7
meetings to steal the spotlight?
 
Embarassing. A clown.
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Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jun 04 01:01PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 10:10:05 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > I thought you would pick up on that. :) I only liked Djok after quite a while; basically, only after he stopped being a quitter and proved himself to be a fighter.
 
> You mean you started to like him when he stopped Federer winning two extra Wimbledon titles.
 
Not to mention when he stopped Fed winning two extra USO titles by snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. You know the one where Fed was *upset* that Djok went for a go-for-broke return at match-point ?
 
On a serious note, if my liking a player depended on him beating Fed, then I would've liked Nadal after Wim 2008. :)
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 04 12:23PM -0700

I think Djokovic will probably make it past Thiem and then be destroyed by Nadal.
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