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Sunday, June 4, 2017

Patrick Kehoe <pkehoe@telus.net>: Jun 04 06:24PM -0700

She started the tournament so well... I watched her first 2 matches... she seemed to be hitting his form... too bad...
 
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Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 04 08:39PM -0700

You know what though? She has a big attitude problem and obviously hasn't acclimated well to the pressure that comes with winning a slam. Her behavior at most tournaments since winning the FO 2016 has been appalling, i.e. throwing tantrums telling her coach she didn't want to be there, tanking matches, retiring in SFs, you name it with her. Then today after the match vs Mladenovic was over she finger-wagged the crowd not to applaud her upon her exit. Why? Because the drama queen couldn't take their overwhelming support of Mladenovic during the match. She was crying and complaining about it in her press conference. Bitch, what did you expect the French crowd to do? Get a grip.
 
IMO her behavior has been far from impressive since winning the FO. It puts into perspective how rare a real champion is, one who can handle the ups and downs which come with a higher profile and who can still win tournaments week after week, year after year like the Evert/Navratilova/Graf/Serena type players of the world.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 04 08:47PM -0700

She is a young proud girl not a bitch.
She isn't the first player that had issues with the crowds, there are many others that had the same issue specially on the same court with the French crowdz.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 04 05:01PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 3:58:18 PM UTC-7, bob wrote:
> was just a decent movie at best. henry fonda getting lost near the
> lake was all that was needed to give it the nod, given the alzheimer's
> culture of that time - which still exists. on golden pond 2? :-)
 
Yeah, they definitely do that. Since you mentioned it, I must reiterate that I hate "Dances With Wolves"...a whole lot. Also really pisses me off that they never gave Hitchcock a Best Director Oscar while a novice like Costner gets one for this cliched gloss. Plus a lot of Native Americans don't like the way they were portrayed either in that film. All too huggy-kissy while nearly all the whites were evil...it's just an extension of the "noble savage" stereotype which is just as bad as the bloodthirsty red heathen one that came before it. But I digress... :) You're right about the current social issue influencing the Oscars, and it may well have come into play with Alzheimer's that year.
 
"Still Alice" may have been " On Golden Pond 2" to some extent.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 04 06:51PM -0400


>> bob
 
>Henry Fonda and Hepburn both won Oscars, deservedly.
>Jane Fonda was just as good.
 
you sound like my aunt. mediocre movie. winning oscars means you
checked the right PC box.
 
bob
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 04 06:02PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 8:01:22 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
> > culture of that time - which still exists. on golden pond 2? :-)
 
> Yeah, they definitely do that. Since you mentioned it, I must reiterate that I hate "Dances With Wolves"...a whole lot. Also really pisses me off that they never gave Hitchcock a Best Director Oscar while a novice like Costner gets one for this cliched gloss. Plus a lot of Native Americans don't like the way they were portrayed either in that film. All too huggy-kissy while nearly all the whites were evil...it's just an extension of the "noble savage" stereotype which is just as bad as the bloodthirsty red heathen one that came before it. But I digress... :) You're right about the current social issue influencing the Oscars, and it may well have come into play with Alzheimer's that year.
 
> "Still Alice" may have been " On Golden Pond 2" to some extent.
 
But like OGP, Still Alice was a good portrayal of Alzheimer's and its effect on the victim and family. With that type of subject matter, a feature film can easily become like a Lifetime tv movie and get into cheesy territory but SA kept it simple and classy. Even though Julianne Moore received an Oscar for her performance, that movie was pretty low key and under the radar(unlike OGP.)
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 04 09:04PM -0400

On Mon, 5 Jun 2017 01:19:23 +0200 (CEST), *skriptis
> president".
 
>If something is funny you must admit it.
>;)
 
 
that is hilarious, yes. might tell it tomorrow.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 04 09:12PM -0400

On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 17:01:21 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
>> culture of that time - which still exists. on golden pond 2? :-)
 
>Yeah, they definitely do that. Since you mentioned it, I must reiterate that I hate "Dances With Wolves"...a whole lot. Also really pisses me off that they never gave Hitchcock a Best Director Oscar while a novice like Costner gets one for this cliched gloss. Plus a lot of Native Americans don't like the way they were portrayed either in that film. All too huggy-kissy while nearly all the whites were evil...it's just an extension of the "noble savage" stereotype which is just as bad as the bloodthirsty red heathen one that came before it. But I digress... :) You're right about the current social issue influencing the Oscars, and it may well have come into play with Alzheimer's that year.
 
>"Still Alice" may have been " On Golden Pond 2" to some extent.
 
i can give on golden pond a nod only for addressing the issue, but if
they were going to do it - which is fine - why not make a good movie?
 
dances with wolves - i enjoyed it more, thought it had potential. i
just wish it starred someone besides costner. lol. i vaguely recall
the oscars that year, someone said: "i'm jealous, costner actually
gets rewarded for making great movies that he dreams about" or
something like that.
 
bob
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 04 08:41PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:12:39 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
 
> i can give on golden pond a nod only for addressing the issue, but if
> they were going to do it - which is fine - why not make a good movie?
 
OGP wasn't a "good" movie, it was an "excellent" movie.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 04 06:43PM -0400


>You are really a true believer.
>Too lazy to check out this alleged study which came up with the 97-% claim. That's the point - people who lie this blatantly most probably have something to hide. And/or profit from it.
>The climate change cult is probably the biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of mankind.
 
just cause people may profit from the CO2 reduction technologies
doesn't mean they're necessarily wrong though.
 
used to be, back in the day, it was said that 95% of all scientists
think global warming is caused by people burning excess CO2. CO2 in
core samples showed direct relations between rises in temps and rises
in CO2. in came the CO2 crowd, i.e. how to lower this before the temp
rises beyond conrol to a runaway condition - glaciers melt, they quit
reflecting sunlight, they turn to water which absorbs sunlight, and on
and on.
 
i'm not sure i believe people's contribution is the main problem.
 
bob
heyguys00@gmail.com: Jun 04 06:37PM -0700

He has a daughter in school who wants to stay in DC. How horrible! Lol
 
Presidents have to buy huge houses--half is taken up by secret service. Bush bought two houses side by side...
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 04 04:59PM -0700

> Yeah, the difference is his shots are better now, more improved in many ways. Better serve, better bh.
 
Somehow these better shots will not be there any more when the clay season is over.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 04 05:55PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 7:59:07 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > Yeah, the difference is his shots are better now, more improved in many ways. Better serve, better bh.
 
> Somehow these better shots will not be there any more when the clay season is over.
 
Maybe, maybe not. He made the AO final and nearly won it didn't he?
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 04 08:56PM -0400

On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 16:00:40 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
>> backtracking.
 
>> bob
 
>I said that his forehand looked weaker at IW/Miami,
 
afaik, IW and miami are in march.
 
> not the AO! Don't twist my words. Since IW/Miami he's improved his fh, his bh and his serve. He looks better on clay than he has in a long time.
 
bob
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 04 06:27PM -0700

> Maybe, maybe not. He made the AO final and nearly won it didn't he?
 
Yes he did but his fans are saying he wasn't playing his best and just started playing his best just recently :)
 
Check TT posts.
Patrick Kehoe <pkehoe@telus.net>: Jun 04 06:29PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 4:59:07 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > Yeah, the difference is his shots are better now, more improved in many ways. Better serve, better bh.
 
> Somehow these better shots will not be there any more when the clay season is over.
 
He has just that fraction more time on clay, than he does on hardcourt and that makes all the difference timing his backhand cross court shots and the forehand buggy whip bender down the line... with those firing, he's a unique kinda monster out there... on hard court and grass he just doesn't have those milla second set up intervals to the same extent... and that equates to big hitting making him more reactive and less able to reverse defence into offensive strikes... on the clay, he can turn a point around almost at will sometimes...
 
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 04 06:36PM -0700


He has just that fraction more time on clay, than he does on hardcourt and that makes all the difference timing his backhand cross court shots and the forehand buggy whip bender down the line... with those firing, he's a unique kinda monster out there... on hard court and grass he just doesn't have those milla second set up intervals to the same extent... and that equates to big hitting making him more reactive and less able to reverse defence into offensive strikes... on the clay, he can turn a point around almost at will sometimes...
 
Thanks Patrick for explaining the obvious to nadal fans that keep repeating Nadal just started playing well two weeks ago :)
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 04 08:56PM -0400

On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 16:13:43 -0700 (PDT), PeteWasLucky
 
>> badly. :-)
 
>I meant she was in a bad form.
 
can't take a joke...
 
bob
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 04 06:29PM -0700

> can't take a joke...
 
Why? Did my reply upset him and he hired you to speak for him? :)
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 04 09:08PM -0400

On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 16:15:12 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
 
>On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 2:19:22 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
 
>> lol. i think she's almost calling you a liar!
 
>I am. I don't believe he's seen 996/1001 movies on that list of greatest all time movies.
 
jaros sees movies almost every day, he posts when he goes and i've
witnessed it for a couple yrs.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 04 09:02PM -0400

>paranoid individuals (remember the rallying cry from these guys that
>Obama was going to declare himself "king" before his terms were up?) I
>haven't listened to this Herman Cain though, I'll have to give it a shot.
 
so you describe their take on the world as "ravings from seemingly
paranoid individuals" yet you fail to see that people still angry
cause the election didn't go their way sound like "ravings from
seemingly paanoid individuals."
 
>'cmon bob, you know these guys are a bunch of biased whack jobs.
 
i know they're biased. same as the other side.
 
problem i have is that you and everyone else calls them biased, yet
won't see it from the other side. wake up, it's a 2 sided war. both
sides lie, both sides are equally biased. as soon as you admit that,
i'm in full agreement with you.
 
bob
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Jun 04 05:00PM -0700

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:45:18 AM UTC+10, Shakes wrote:
> On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 1:40:36 PM UTC-7, undecided wrote:
 
> > I would have liked to see Guga vs Nadal at the FO....Guga had a very fluid clay court game.
 
> Yes, me too. He had a better serve and a great BH. He was tall enough to deal with the bounce.
 
He was 6'3 and I don't think that is tall enough to deal with the bounce Nadal was able to generate. Safin and Del Po probably were probably the only guys weren't be bother by the bounce as they both are well above 6'4, have two handed backhand.
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Jun 04 05:23PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 5:00:22 PM UTC-7, John Liang wrote:
 
> > > I would have liked to see Guga vs Nadal at the FO....Guga had a very fluid clay court game.
 
> > Yes, me too. He had a better serve and a great BH. He was tall enough to deal with the bounce.
 
> He was 6'3 and I don't think that is tall enough to deal with the bounce Nadal was able to generate. Safin and Del Po probably were probably the only guys weren't be bother by the bounce as they both are well above 6'4, have two handed backhand.
 
It's not just the physical height. He also had a BH that could come over the ball at or near shoulder height. He could also hit it pretty flat, kind of like Wawrinka.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 04 05:06PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 4:30:02 PM UTC-7, *skriptis wrote:
> here with Khan, I'm just as bad as you are.
> So have you ever been involved in ethnic cleansing? Shall we go
> together?
 
Sure, why not.
 
> using their ethnicities or insult their physical appearance and
> physical marks that are typical of their ethnic and racial
> groups.
 
That thing about sneaky little eyes seems to have really stuck with you. I wonder why.

> So I'm not racist, you otoh...yes.
 
Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Jun 04 05:04PM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 7:40:50 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
 
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> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> http://www.avg.com
 
He could learn from you by inventing new formulas for GOAT, BOAT, shifting goal post so Federer always stay at No.1 much like what you have been doing for years.
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