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Thursday, June 29, 2017

Pelle Svanslos <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 29 11:00AM +0300

On 29/06/2017 1.56, bob wrote:
>> silly wars in the first place, are now responsible for them?
 
> and obama's silly wars.....you always leave that out? you're as bad as
> CNN.
 
Nice dodge.
 
And what wars did Obama start? What wars did Obama start that had +500k
casualties? In general, why do you always have to bring Obama into
something that has nothing to do with him? That's dumb. It's the
equivalent of saying "I can't argue on the merits of what I say".
 
>> By this token, every US citizen at the time was responsible for Auschwitz.
>> bob, bob, bob, ...
 
> a helluva lot of german citizens were responsible for it.
 
A much better case can be made of you being responsible for 500k
casualties in Iraq. And Polar Bears too.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 29 02:51AM -0700

Obama caused the latest disaster in Iraq and destroyed Libya and Syria. He even purposely allowed Turkey to keep ISIS supply lines open, furthering the awfulness of Syria and Iraq. Also
He pretty much caused the war in Ukraine too by trying to bring down the democratically elected govt.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 29 06:16PM +1000

On 29/06/2017 12:29 AM, Court_1 wrote:
> 3. Murray(if Murray is healthy?)
> 4. Djokovic
 
> But of course a lot will depend on the draw.
 
Agreed. If Rafa survives into week 2 then he becomes my pick.
 
 
 
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Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jun 29 10:47AM +0100

On 28/06/2017 15:22, Carey wrote:
>> On 28/06/2017 10:31, Brian W Lawrence wrote:
 
>>> <http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2017-06-28/seeding_announced_for_the_championships_2017.html>
 
> wheres Tomic
 
Currently ranked 60.
 
 
 
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Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jun 29 10:46AM +0100


>>> Photos by Annie Liebowitz.
 
>> the main pic was in the Evening Standard last night!
 
> Leibovitz!
 
Yeah, thanks :-)
 
 
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Pelle Svanslos <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 29 11:01AM +0300

On 29/06/2017 1.59, bob wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:32:40 +0300, Pelle Svanslos <pelle@svans.los>
> wrote:
 
> not putin's puppet anymore?
 
Being a Paper Tiger WRT to China and a Putin's puppet aren't mutually
exclusive.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 29 02:18AM -0700

No, got it from idiots saying he was Putin's puppet! So you did indeed steal it from me, like said you are clearly desperate like the dumb
Russian joke election investigation, you know the election gave your fave Hillary a good thrashing in! Hahahh
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 29 02:19AM -0700

Is it mutually exclusive with Trump absolutely
Beating your Hillary and Dems to bits in the election!
Pelle Svanslos <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 29 12:26PM +0300

On 29/06/2017 12.18, The Iceberg wrote:
> No, got it from idiots saying he was Putin's puppet! So you did indeed steal it from me,
 
Ask Google groups. It says what I say. You're not only a thief but a
lying thief.
 
Who the heck would claim IP rights on the word poodle anyways? Geez.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 29 02:38AM -0700

Nah you're the liar, I say Obama was China's poodle cos he was, you can't deny it and I said that cos dumb lying pro-Hillary types like you tried to pretend Trump was Putin's puppet. Your Paper Tiger post at the time was totally unrelated and NOTHING but another weak dig by someone that can't take that TRUMP WON! this latest post is just you trying to steal my phrase.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 29 02:45AM -0700

It would help your case whether you say you reckon the Paper Tiger thing is right or not yet you never did and still don't.
Pelle Svanslos <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 29 12:21PM +0300

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump's decision to visit France on its
national day next month at the invitation of new President Emmanuel
Macron represents a shrewd political calculation by both leaders.
 
Macron's decision to treat Trump to full bore French pageantry on a day
that includes a military parade along the Champs-Elysee that will
feature US soldiers and a spectacular fireworks display at the Eiffel
Tower, will likely please the US President, and may be an attempt to
play into an increasing trend of global leaders seeking to flatter a
leader who has a highly developed sense of his own image.
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/donald-trump-macron-france-visit/index.html
 
A day after I lamented the Europeans poor understanding of what "shiny
objects" can accomplish WRT Trump-o, there's one!
 
Politics is fun!
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 29 02:40AM -0700

CNN Lol
Pelle Svanslos <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 29 12:12PM +0300

https://gizmodo.com/boaty-mcboatface-has-returned-from-its-inaugural-missio-1796482341
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 29 02:21AM -0700

At last you post some decent news! :)
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jun 29 09:09AM +0100

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-time-magazine-with-trump-on-the-cover-hangs-in-his-golf-clubs-its-fake/2017/06/27/0adf96de-5850-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html?utm_term=.8dcf87a7deb8>
 
"The framed copy of Time magazine was hung up in at least five of
President Trump's clubs, from South Florida to Scotland. Filling the
entire cover was a photo of Donald Trump.
 
"Donald Trump: The 'Apprentice' is a television smash!" the big headline
said. Above the Time nameplate, there was another headline in all caps:
"TRUMP IS HITTING ON ALL FRONTS . . . EVEN TV!"
 
This cover — dated March 1, 2009 — looks like an impressive memento from
Trump's pre-presidential career. To club members eating lunch, or
golfers waiting for a pro-shop purchase, it seemed to be a signal that
Trump had always been a man who mattered. Even when he was just a
reality TV star, Trump was the kind of star who got a cover story in Time.
 
But that wasn't true.
 
The Time cover is a fake.
 
There was no March 1, 2009, issue of Time magazine. And there was no
issue at all in 2009 that had Trump on the cover."
 
lol
 
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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 29 02:13AM -0700

To think some journo was so obsessed, petty and dull as to look it up! Wash post lol
Pelle Svanslos <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 29 12:07PM +0300

https://twitter.com/CaitrionaPerry/status/879804904696496128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F06%2F28%2Fus%2Ftrump-flirt-irish-reporter.html
 
Bizarre indeed.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 29 02:12AM -0700

You must be the biggest stalker of Trump out there, you research and post stuff hourly about the guy!
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 29 06:05PM +1000

On 29/06/2017 12:16 AM, Court_1 wrote:
>> upped that level considerably.
 
> But we don't know how he'll play at Wimbledon based on his FO performance. He may make the final and win the title but he may lose in round 2 depending on his draw. First of all, we need to see his draw. We also need to see if Djokovic can somehow up his level in time for Wimbledon. He's an unknown factor right now.
 
> I think it's wishful thinking for you to think and hope that Nadal will blow Federer off a grass court if they meet in the final. Nadal may beat Federer but blow him off the court?
 
If they both get to the final & if he plays with the same intensity as
FO final, then yes I'm tipping straight sets for Rafa.
 
Stan is like a mini version of Federer, but better bh & no fear of Rafa.
We saw what unchained Rafa did to him - 62 63 61 - & Stan actually
played well.
 
Frightening.
 
Note this isn't slick, low bouncing grass of previous eras.
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 29 06:15PM +1000

On 29/06/2017 12:20 AM, Court_1 wrote:
 
>> 3. Rafa will want pay back for AO and Sunshine Double defeats. Can't underestimate just gut instinct for getting back at Roger. If Federer has a mental edge, then Rafa has a major chip on the proverbial shoulder heading into any encounter with Feds now. Suddenly HE'S the hunter - mentally - and Rafa LOVES being the hunter, the Fed-Hunter. And we all know the ultimate Fed-Hunter is Rafa.
 
>> 4. So, an interesting give and take set of possibilities. Still, Rafa will be in tough to get to a final. That's going to be a real challenge for him.
 
> Federer isn't going to play Nadal the same way he played that giraffe Zverev in Halle. Don't you worry! Federer isn't stupid.
 
Agreed. A Fed/Rafa final would be the best thing for the game at this
point. You'll have 2 of the best players ever in the biggest final, &
both super confident splitting 1st 2 slams of the yr.
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 29 06:21PM +1000

On 29/06/2017 12:53 AM, Patrick Kehoe wrote:
 
> In that sense, the prospect of Wimbledon and the USO of 2017 has legacy and historical stakes that are/could be off the charts. With and without 18-15, so to speak; though, all the more so because of 18-15.
 
> Much still hanging in the balanace.
 
> P
 
Yes, let's wish them good health & luck for 2 more slam final clashes at
Wim/USO. Amazing they may share the slam spoils in 2017, just as they
did in 2006/2007.
 
 
 
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kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jun 29 02:05AM -0700

Op woensdag 28 juni 2017 13:57:59 UTC+2 schreef Whisper:
 
> intensity ever. He willed himself to play a truly astonishing level of
> tennis in FO final. Imo a repeat of that level would see him beat Fed
> 64 64 63 type at Wimbledon.
 
This is just beyond dumb. So dumb it's up there with your 'Roddick will beat Federer 9/10 times in slams' and 'Fed will be lucky to ever win a slam' nonsense from 2003/2004. Why is it as dumb as that shit? You assume Rafa can simply copy paste his level from FO clay vs Stan onto Wimbledon centre court vs Federer. As if conditions and opponent have no influence whatsoever.
 
Might just be the dumbest thing I've ever read.
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Jun 29 02:11AM -0700

Op woensdag 28 juni 2017 14:01:03 UTC+2 schreef *skriptis:
 
> Good post. Great way of explaining the math, odds and numbers.
 
> Lots of idiots around here who assume that having e.g. 40% chance
> means the player will lose.
 
The 5% is way off because Rafa was down the entire match, save for a few games early in the 5th before being blown out of the water in the final 5 games of the match. Then got beat in the next 2 matches even easier... That's why 5% was way off.
Pelle Svanslos <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 29 11:08AM +0300

On 29/06/2017 1.05, bob wrote:
 
>>> serena hasn't been a great mover past few yrs,
 
>> She's always been a Hippo.
 
> true, but in her younger days a much faster hippo with more stamina.
 
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