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Thursday, June 22, 2017

SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jun 22 09:52AM -0700

Mischa is a terrific volleyer and protects his serve very well, but I really do not understand his Nadalesque approach to returning (i.e. standing miles behind the baseline). I feel that it isn't a good fit for the rest of his game.
 
Fed is still looking rusty, but that could be because Zverev is rushing him, at least when he is serving.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 22 10:56AM -0700

> Fed is still looking rusty, but that could be because Zverev is rushing him, at least when he is serving.
 
Fed is trying to find his grass game not his HC game by his own standards, the low ground strokes, flat backhand passing shots on the serve return, plus Zverev is rushing him and was serving very well.
 
Expect Federer to get better and betterer :)
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 22 08:53AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 7:40:13 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
 
 
> I have rated around 150 films which list the country and language as
> France and French... My average rating for these films is 6,1 while my
> average for all films is 6,45. So yes, French films often do let down.
 
I like some of Truffaut's stuff, like "Shoot the Piano Player" and the Doinel series. A lot of other French directors are annoying for the reasons you cited. A little bit of Godard or Resnais is more than enough. The Italians don't seem to take themselves as seriously even in highly stylized films.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 22 08:57AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 10:40:13 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
 
> I liked Diabolique (6/10), although thought it wasn't quite the classic
> it's supposed to be.
 
I disagree 100%. Diabolique is precisely the classic it's supposed to be and more. I think it's a brilliant film. I would give it at least an 8/10.
 

 
> I have rated around 150 films which list the country and language as
> France and French... My average rating for these films is 6,1 while my
> average for all films is 6,45. So yes, French films often do let down.
 
I probably wouldn't watch any French action films. That's not my thing. But I disagree with you about French films as I feel a lot of quality films have come out of France, i.e. films like Amour, Au revoir les enfants, Incendies, A Very Long Engagement, etc. With respect to Amelie, I don't know if I will like it or not but I can say for sure that I did like director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's film A Very Long Engagement and did not find that it was style over substance at all. In fact I would say it had equal parts style and substance. I was really impressed with the film and the director.
 
But while you and I agree on some films that we both like, there are many we disagree about and seem to have quite different movie tastes. That's what makes the world go around.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 22 09:03AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 10:46:51 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
 
> ...and this basically is the problem with Amelie too - it's ALL style
> over substance. Hell, people here who praise it probably won't remember
> the story either... that's why Carey has to see it again...
 
Why are you trying to get Carey to watch Amelie again? He already said he liked the movie. Let him like what he likes. Grif liked Amelie too. I think I have more in common in terms of movies taste with Grif than anybody else on this ng aside from some of that immature action crap he likes. :) He seems to have a very wide range of movies he likes but seems to like a lot of quality movies of all genres IMO.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 22 09:09AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 8:57:48 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:

> I probably wouldn't watch any French action films. That's not my thing. But I disagree with you about French films as I feel a lot of quality films have come out of France, i.e. films like Amour, Au revoir les enfants, Incendies, A Very Long Engagement, etc. With respect to Amelie, I don't know if I will like it or not but I can say for sure that I did like director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's film A Very Long Engagement and did not find that it was style over substance at all. In fact I would say it had equal parts style and substance. I was really impressed with the film and the director.
 
"Incendies" is Canadian, like director Villeneuve, right?
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 22 09:15AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 12:09:12 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
> On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 8:57:48 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> > I probably wouldn't watch any French action films. That's not my thing. But I disagree with you about French films as I feel a lot of quality films have come out of France, i.e. films like Amour, Au revoir les enfants, Incendies, A Very Long Engagement, etc. With respect to Amelie, I don't know if I will like it or not but I can say for sure that I did like director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's film A Very Long Engagement and did not find that it was style over substance at all. In fact I would say it had equal parts style and substance. I was really impressed with the film and the director.
 
> "Incendies" is Canadian, like director Villeneuve, right?
 
I believe it's classified as a French and Canadian film. It's on many best French film lists.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 22 07:22PM +0300

Gracchus kirjoitti 22.6.2017 klo 18:53:
>> France and French... My average rating for these films is 6,1 while my
>> average for all films is 6,45. So yes, French films often do let down.
 
> I like some of Truffaut's stuff, like "Shoot the Piano Player" and the Doinel series. A lot of other French directors are annoying for the reasons you cited. A little bit of Godard or Resnais is more than enough. The Italians don't seem to take themselves as seriously even in highly stylized films.
 
Italians make beautiful films... and yes, they're usually down to earth too.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 22 09:26AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 9:15:40 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> > > I probably wouldn't watch any French action films. That's not my thing. But I disagree with you about French films as I feel a lot of quality films have come out of France, i.e. films like Amour, Au revoir les enfants, Incendies, A Very Long Engagement, etc. With respect to Amelie, I don't know if I will like it or not but I can say for sure that I did like director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's film A Very Long Engagement and did not find that it was style over substance at all. In fact I would say it had equal parts style and substance. I was really impressed with the film and the director.
 
> > "Incendies" is Canadian, like director Villeneuve, right?
 
> I believe it's classified as a French and Canadian film. It's on many best French film lists.
 
The infallible Wikipedia calls it Canadian. :) It's a Canadian production with Canadian director, and most of the principal actors are Canadian (and one Belgian). I think when people make up those lists, they lump all French language films together as French.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 22 07:29PM +0300

Court_1 kirjoitti 22.6.2017 klo 18:57:
>> average for all films is 6,45. So yes, French films often do let down.
 
> I probably wouldn't watch any French action films. That's not my thing. But I disagree with you about French films as I feel a lot of quality films have come out of France, i.e. films like Amour, Au revoir les enfants, Incendies, A Very Long Engagement, etc. With respect to Amelie, I don't know if I will like it or not but I can say for sure that I did like director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's film A Very Long Engagement and did not find that it was style over substance at all. In fact I would say it had equal parts style and substance. I was really impressed with the film and the director.
 
> But while you and I agree on some films that we both like, there are many we disagree about and seem to have quite different movie tastes. That's what makes the world go around.
 
I haven't seen that many films from Jeunet but The City of Lost Children
(Scifi) was pure weirdness for weirdness' sake, it made no sense
whatsoever (and looked very good).
 
He apparently also directed Alien: Resurrection, which was proficiently
made and quite normal Alien film.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 22 07:35PM +0300

Court_1 kirjoitti 22.6.2017 klo 19:03:
>> over substance. Hell, people here who praise it probably won't remember
>> the story either... that's why Carey has to see it again...
 
> Why are you trying to get Carey to watch Amelie again?
 
I'm not, he said he wants to see it again.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 22 09:44AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 9:35:17 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> >> the story either... that's why Carey has to see it again...
 
> > Why are you trying to get Carey to watch Amelie again?
 
> I'm not, he said he wants to see it again.
 
That is good. Now we don't have to send any muscle.
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Jun 22 09:56AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 9:44:34 AM UTC-7, Gracchus wrote:
 
> > > Why are you trying to get Carey to watch Amelie again?
 
> > I'm not, he said he wants to see it again.
 
> That is good. Now we don't have to send any muscle.
 
 
:)
 
Has anyone here seen the Italian thriller 'The Double Hour'? I liked it and
would like to hear others' opinions.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 22 10:51AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 12:26:06 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
 
> > > "Incendies" is Canadian, like director Villeneuve, right?
 
> > I believe it's classified as a French and Canadian film. It's on many best French film lists.
 
> The infallible Wikipedia calls it Canadian. :) It's a Canadian production with Canadian director, and most of the principal actors are Canadian (and one Belgian). I think when people make up those lists, they lump all French language films together as French.
 
On IMDb under country it says Canada and France. It's a French and Canadian film!
 
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/film/incendies-a-poetic-tale-of-violent-trauma-and-reconciliation/article627779/
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 22 10:55AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 12:28:58 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> whatsoever (and looked very good).
 
> He apparently also directed Alien: Resurrection, which was proficiently
> made and quite normal Alien film.
 
The three films he's best known for and which have the best reviews are Amelie, A Very Long Engagement and Delicatessen. I think that Alien movie bombed.
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 22 08:58AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 4:10:57 PM UTC+2, The Iceberg wrote:
> It's a totally dumb argument, look how dumb your country looks for banning a book for decades just cos Hitler wrote it - best of all as I can pick Mein Campf at any high street book shop in London.
> As I said who defines what is offensive, I find it offensive that Raja says Nadal is better than Sampras, should the police arrest him cos of it?
 
So you bought your "Mein Kampf" in London. Nice for you. We in today's Germany don't like propaganda by a guy who had 6 million jews killed and caused the death of 8 million Germans. Sounds crazy, I know ...
 
Max
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 22 08:59AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 5:31:20 PM UTC+2, The Iceberg wrote:
> You sound like a Nazi, wanting to ban and burn the books! How pathetic that you'd be scared of a book.
 
I'm sure you love your child pornography books.
 
 
Max
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 22 09:08AM -0700

No thanks, that's what you corrupt banker sickos are into, with your depraved secret parties you all have.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 22 09:10AM -0700

No but I got good mind to buy it, just to prove how dumb it is to ban some silly book! why isn't Marx banned? Oh you like 70millon Russians, Chinese etc being murdered coz of that one.
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 22 10:00AM -0700

Marx didn't murder anyone. Hitler and his evil buddies did.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 22 06:30PM +0200

> No but I got good mind to buy it, just to prove how dumb it is to ban some silly book! why isn't Marx banned? Oh you like 70millon Russians, Chinese etc being murdered coz of that one.
 
Sure he does.
 
Nazi types of today like him, would obey of course, and honour
6
million Jews as that's something they can't ignore or show any
disrespect in the western mainstream so they have to honor them,
and would even talk about Germans as Nazi victims but would
shamelessly avoid mentioning 20 million Soviets. You ever heard
him mentioning that?
 
Also, "Hitler's Mein Kampf was not about exclusively about the
Jews but primarily about destroying Russia and Slavs in general,
killing them and repopulating their lands. Lebensraum.
Extermination and colonisation.
 
Jews were secondary, merely the ones who irritated him, were too
much liberal, or unpatriotic, so he wanted them out. Resettlement
to Madagascar or Palestine were considered as solutions for Jews.
Nazis and Zionists even worked together for a brief pre-ww2
period to achieve that goal.
 
But for the Slavs it was death and destruction from the very start.

So when you see a guy mentioning Jews, but avoids mentioning three
times as much killed Slavs, you've spotted a Nazi.
 

 
 
 
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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 22 06:36PM +0200

> Good points Max. There is nothing wrong with live and let live. Everyone should be free to follow their life style as long as they don't cause harm to each other.
 
> The US Democrats are no different to US Republicans in that regard. They want to censor Internet, tap into people's phones and most of all help the lobbyists and their sponsors at the expense of the voters. There are no liberals in US politics.
 
Do they storm your home when you post your political opinion on
Facebook? E.g. wall should (not) be built? Mexicans bring drugs?
Stop illegal immigration?
 
They do that in Germany.
 
 
Also next time you or anyone start criticizing China for internet
censorship, you better realize Germany is doing the same thing as
China. Asking/demanding big companies, Google, Facebook, etc to
censor certain materials they deem offensive.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 22 09:30AM -0700


> > They need to recognize that they have a problem in the first place. Somehow the 2016 election didn't get that across strongly enough. This woman in Georgia says flat-out in debate that she doesn't believe in a livable wage and the Democrat still can't beat her. That's Hillary's legacy.
 
> What BS!
> I know many people who have a very livable wage.
 
Incorrect. The Israelis concocted that rumor.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 22 09:34AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 1:08:10 AM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> As an outsider I can see it cos the Dems don't care one bit about poor people or real issues any more, they only care about the liberal PC elite, rich students, Wall St bankers and Saudi types, they so busy pandering to PC gender stuff, it no surprise Trump is miles ahead.
 
All true about the Democrats, but Trump sure doesn't care an iota about the poor or middle class.
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 22 09:01AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 12:26:02 PM UTC+2, Paul wrote:
 
> BULLSHIT.
 
> IT WAS A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION:
 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Rm6ZFROmc
 
 
The jews right?
Didn't they also kill JFK?
 
 
Max
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