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Saturday, June 10, 2017

Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 11 12:08AM +1000

On 10/06/2017 11:54 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> My instincts tell me Stan has 1 chance in 10 of winning this match,
> which is still a reasonable chance.
 
> Rafa won all his matches in str8 sets and still there were moments when you feel the old nervous Rafa is there. Wondering how Rafa will play if he drops one of the first two sets and Wawrinka gets in the Stanimal mode.
 
It's so much more exciting than say Murray v Rafa isn't it?
 
 
 
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bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 10 10:24AM -0400

On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 23:49:05 +1000, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>> bob
 
>Exactly. This is why Fed has to go in any short list of boat/goat. His
>rock bottom form was perhaps only 5% off his peak. Phenomenal stuff really.
 
i had him maybe 10% off peak at times, but i think we're fairly close
here. rafa and djok have both gone to like 50, 60% levels more than
once.
 
bob
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 10 06:57AM -0700

On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 3:45:17 PM UTC+2, Court_1 wrote:
> I like her game but I was a Seles fan.
 
 
Women should play tennis gracefully and elegantly. Not like Seles or Ostalenko.
 
 
Max
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 06:59AM -0700

On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:50:53 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> > live by them, die by them.
 
> > bob
 
> All she does is hit as hard as she can left, right, left, right...
 
If she can wins slams doing it, who cares. The worst is when you have ball bashers who can't win more than a few matches if their lives depended on it, i.e. Thiem.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 07:01AM -0700

Halep just needs to continue getting as many balls back as possible and wait for the error and implosion to come.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 07:02AM -0700

> > I like her game but I was a Seles fan.
 
> Women should play tennis gracefully and elegantly. Not like Seles or Ostalenko.
 
> Max
 
STFU.
Garvin Yee <drsmith004@gmail.com>: Jun 10 07:05AM -0700

On 6/10/2017 7:01 AM, Court_1 wrote:
> Halep just needs to continue getting as many balls back as possible and wait for the error and implosion to come.
 
Agreed.
 
Maybe Halep in straights....
 
 
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calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 10 07:08AM -0700

On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 4:05:38 PM UTC+2, Garvin Yee wrote:
 
> Agreed.
 
> Maybe Halep in straights....
 
But maybe only in three.
However, Ospapenko could still win it.
 
Max
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Jun 10 07:11AM -0700

On Saturday, 10 June 2017 14:43:07 UTC+1, bob wrote:
> >Vamos Simona!
 
> i wouldn't call it that ugly, but she definitely goes for winners.
> live by them, die by them.
 
it's quite fun to watch, she's like a slightly cleverer version of Madison Keys, but she's gone total AWOL now!
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 11 12:11AM +1000


> But maybe only in three.
> However, Ospapenko could still win it.
 
> Max
 
She could, but would have to come back from 4-6 0-3.
 
 
 
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Garvin Yee <drsmith004@gmail.com>: Jun 10 07:13AM -0700


>> Maybe Halep in straights....
 
> But maybe only in three.
> However, Ospapenko could still win it.
 
No, I was wrong.
 
Ostapemko has a flashy, hard hitting game, but Halep
is clearly more solid.
 
Now fuck off, please....
 
 
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TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 10 05:18PM +0300

Court_1 kirjoitti 10.6.2017 klo 16:59:
 
>>> bob
 
>> All she does is hit as hard as she can left, right, left, right...
 
> If she can wins slams doing it, who cares. The worst is when you have ball bashers who can't win more than a few matches if their lives depended on it, i.e. Thiem.
 
Thiem is no ball basher.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 10 10:21AM -0400

>> live by them, die by them.
 
>> bob
 
>All she does is hit as hard as she can left, right, left, right...
 
and your pt?
 
bob
Garvin Yee <drsmith004@gmail.com>: Jun 10 06:55AM -0700

On 6/10/2017 6:54 AM, Whisper wrote:
 
> Halep wins 1st set 6-4.
 
I guessed Halep in 3.
 
But Jelena playing well for her first slam final!
 
 
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Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Jun 10 06:58AM -0700

On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:56:23 AM UTC-4, Garvin Yee wrote:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/34735015@N03/sets/72157623566520134/
 
> http://fineartamerica.com/art/all/garvin+yee/all
 
> https://www.facebook.com/garvin.yee.37
 
Brainless basher, female Thiem??
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 07:04AM -0700

On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:58:06 AM UTC-4, Guypers wrote:
 
> Brainless basher, female Thiem??
 
Yes, but Thiem's never made a slam final and he's 23. Ostapenko just turned 20 days ago.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 11 12:08AM +1000

On 10/06/2017 11:55 PM, Garvin Yee wrote:
 
> I guessed Halep in 3.
 
> But Jelena playing well for her first slam final!
 
Looks like Halep 64 63 type?
 
 
 
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TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 10 05:19PM +0300

Court_1 kirjoitti 10.6.2017 klo 17:04:
> On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:58:06 AM UTC-4, Guypers wrote:
 
>> Brainless basher, female Thiem??
 
> Yes, but Thiem's never made a slam final and he's 23. Ostapenko just turned 20 days ago.
 
Women age faster. ;-P
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 11 12:06AM +1000

On 10/06/2017 11:50 PM, Federer Fanatic wrote:
> |
 
> I see you've quelled your childlike enthusiasm for Stan and logic has kicked in.
 
> FF
 
I picked Rafa to beat Stan in the final pre-tournament - never wavered
from that analysis.
 
 
 
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Federer Fanatic <TheRelentlessTide@nospam.invalid>: Jun 10 09:18AM -0500

On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 00:06:25 +1000, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> wrote:
| On 10/06/2017 11:50 PM, Federer Fanatic wrote:
|> On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 23:42:41 +1000, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> wrote:
|> | On 10/06/2017 10:32 PM, SliceAndDice wrote:
|> |> On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 6:06:24 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
|> |>> On 10/06/2017 2:15 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
|> |>>> I am happy Wawrinka beat Djokovic and Nadal to win a slam but I still see that slam final as a probable anomaly. If they have a rematch and Wawrinka wins again, you can call me foolish but not until then. We will soon have our answer as to whether or not Stan will change his losing pattern vs Nadal. Maybe he will and Nadal will never beat him again or maybe not and Nadal will never lose to Wawrinka again? ?????? Same goes with Wawrinka vs Djokovic. Will his win over Djokovic be the new norm in their match-up?
|> |>>> ----------- end of post-------
|> |>>>
|> |>>> - since then Wawrinka won the FO beating Federer & peak djokovic and winning the US open beating peak djokovic.
|> |>>>
|> |>>> Will he beat nadal, no one knows, nadal is the favorite for sure, but it's fun reading that person comments on how this person never has a chance and that person will win everything.
|> |>>>
|> |>>
|> |>> I don't see anything wrong with that post? Stan was quite old to be
|> |>> winning a 1st slam, & his h2h v Rafa was woeful before that match -
|> |>> 12-0, never even won a set.
|> |>>
|> |>>
|> |> I don't think he is saying there is anything wrong with that post. I think he is pointing out that she is back to saying Wawrinka has no chance even after he has proved her wrong.
|> |>
|> |
|> | Well I'm more on Court1's side here. Not exactly 'no chance', but about
|> | 1 in 10. Expect Rafa to win in 3 or 4 sets - 5 would be a massive bonus.
|> |
|> | Stan winning would be almost shocking to me. It's going to take some
|> | all time boat-level tennis from Stan.
|> |
|> |
|> |
|>
|> I see you've quelled your childlike enthusiasm for Stan and logic has kicked in.
|>
|> FF
|>
|
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| I picked Rafa to beat Stan in the final pre-tournament - never wavered
| from that analysis.
|
|
 
As did I. Just saying you've backed off of the enthusiasm for Stan's game.
Be truthful. You will ecstatic if Stan wins?
 
FF
StephenJ <stephenj@flex.com>: Jun 10 08:37AM -0400

On 6/10/2017 8:31 AM, bob wrote:
>> themselves, no blather about 'context' needed.
 
> the words "i hope you won't need to investigate," if those were the
> words, are simply expressing a wish, not anywhere near an order.
 
Agreed, that's what's clear cut about them.
 
In the end, the American People really will decide, and so far, even
though Trump's approval rating is in the toilet, there is no groundswell
for impeachment because what is clear is that no decisive objective
evidence against Trump has been presented.
 
In July 1974, Nixon was almost universally hated, and everyone thought
he was a crook. But until the tape was released which proved he
obstructed justice, he wasn't going to be impeached.
 
The same will prevail here, no amount of drip drip drip testimony from
anyone, nor the endless critical pontificating of the media will force
actual impeachment. Only an objective "smoking gun" like a tape or DNA
or something similar will do it.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 10 08:31AM -0400

On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 06:17:58 -0400, StephenJ <stephenj@flex.com>
wrote:
 
 
>You can keep declaring that things are 'clear cut' all you want, but the
>words Trump actually used can only "clearly" mean what you claim if you
>are biased against Trump and want to think the worst about him.
 
which is how TT and a large portion of the american and world's
population are thinking. that's why it's impossible to get a good read
on things, and have to read multiple sources and make your own logical
judgment.
 
it's like listening to rst talk about fed, nadal, djok, roddick,
sampras.
 
>"clearing the room" and "well then why did he fire him?" to assign
>meaning to the words. If they were clear cut, they would speak for
>themselves, no blather about 'context' needed.
 
the words "i hope you won't need to investigate," if those were the
words, are simply expressing a wish, not anywhere near an order.
 
bob
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 10 11:58PM +1000

Well my wife is kind of the opposite. She hates him because he left his
'older' wife & child & ran off with 18 yr old hottie : )
 
She also likes Murray (has some kind of fetish for Scottish accents?
She was a big 'Bay City Rollers' fan).
 
But yeah, for most non-tennis people Stan is the guy who seems to appeal
the most.
 
 
 
 
On 10/06/2017 11:20 PM, StephenJ wrote:
 
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bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 10 09:40AM -0400

On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 06:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
>> previous stan.
 
>> bob
 
>Stan has been a different animal in finals the past three years but he's never played Nadal in a FO final! If you want Stan to beat Nadal for sure on Sunday, you have to get Nadal to put on a Djokovic mask!
 
from november 2013- may 2016 djok beat nadal 11 of 12 overall and 4 of
5 on clay, 1 of 2 at FO. right in the very middle of that, stan
whipped an incredibly motivated djok in a FO final.
 
thanks fofr making me look it up.
 
bob
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 06:02AM -0700

On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 8:19:38 AM UTC-4, kaennorsing wrote:
 
> Thing is, it usually takes a while before Stan gets into animal mode. I'm afraid Rafa won't give him the time to settle into the match.
 
That's what I think will happen. Nadal stated in his press conference that he knows he has to play aggressively and not give Stan the chance to blast winners or he will have trouble. But even if Stan wins the first set, I still think Nadal will prevail.
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