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Sunday, June 11, 2017

Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 11 04:37PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 4:30:02 PM UTC-7, *skriptis wrote:
 
> > Henin only 5
 
> It's about motivation, not quality. And we know McEnroe had issues
> with that.
 
Just like Rios. Reached #1 and decided he didn't care. He would easily have won 20+ slams with a little more motivation. So from a certain perspective, he's the best to ever play the game.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 12 01:53AM +0200


>> It's about motivation, not quality. And we know McEnroe had issues
>> with that.
 
> Just like Rios. Reached #1 and decided he didn't care. He would easily have won 20+ slams with a little more motivation. So from a certain perspective, he's the best to ever play the game.
 
I have no problem with him being coulda woulda goat.
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bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 11 08:10PM -0400

On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 16:37:28 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
 
>> It's about motivation, not quality. And we know McEnroe had issues
>> with that.
 
>Just like Rios. Reached #1 and decided he didn't care. He would easily have won 20+ slams with a little more motivation. So from a certain perspective, he's the best to ever play the game.
 
rios had really beautiful groundstrokes.
 
bob
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 11 06:10PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 6:37:29 PM UTC-5, Gracchus wrote:
 
> > It's about motivation, not quality. And we know McEnroe had issues
> > with that.
 
> Just like Rios. Reached #1 and decided he didn't care. He would easily have won 20+ slams with a little more motivation. So from a certain perspective, he's the best to ever play the game.
 
LOL, funny. Too bad *dipshit will miss the sarcasm.
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 11 01:10PM -0700

You don't see Rosewall and Gonzales on that list either. Doesn't meant fiddly squat
Jason White <infiniti_g35_guy88@yahoo.com>: Jun 11 06:04PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 1:10:18 PM UTC-7, soccerfan777 wrote:
> You don't see Rosewall and Gonzales on that list either. Doesn't meant fiddly squat
 
They are regularly omitted from conversations. But they played in an time where professionals weren't allowed to play at Wimbledon. Not their fault. Sounds like they were probably good enough to win at least once and are given benefit of doubt.
 
Lendl, ouch. What from I've seen on TV, nice guy. Funny guy. But no Wimbledon, no goat.
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 11 06:07PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 8:04:59 PM UTC-5, Jason White wrote:
> > You don't see Rosewall and Gonzales on that list either. Doesn't meant fiddly squat
 
> They are regularly omitted from conversations. But they played in an time where professionals weren't allowed to play at Wimbledon. Not their fault. Sounds like they were probably good enough to win at least once and are given benefit of doubt.
 
> Lendl, ouch. What from I've seen on TV, nice guy. Funny guy. But no Wimbledon, no goat.
 
Agree to disagree then. For me he is there with Federer, Connors, MecEnroe, Borg and Nadal.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 12 01:25AM +0200

> for a club level tennis player? or perhaps someone who works cleaning
> latrines at the local tennis club?
 
> bob
 
Maybe he got a deportation notification?
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Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Jun 11 04:55PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 7:21:11 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
> for a club level tennis player? or perhaps someone who works cleaning
> latrines at the local tennis club?
 
> bob
 
Nice thing to say, how about your ex wife?
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 11 08:35PM -0400

On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 16:55:03 -0700 (PDT), Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>> latrines at the local tennis club?
 
>> bob
 
>Nice thing to say, how about your ex wife?
 
#1 i'm not on some sort of rampage swearing and calling people
"faggots."
 
#2 haven't a clue about my ex.
 
#3 so are you confirming raja's wife left? :-)
 
bob
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 11 06:03PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 6:21:11 PM UTC-5, bob wrote:
> for a club level tennis player? or perhaps someone who works cleaning
> latrines at the local tennis club?
 
> bob
 
I know you feel sad today. No reason to personal because of that... lol... Bye Bye Sampras! LOL
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 11 06:04PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 6:08:35 PM UTC-5, StephenJ wrote:
> On 6/11/2017 6:09 PM, soccerfan777 wrote:
> > Surface king is another bullshit bogus stat invented by Whisper. Nadal has always been the better and greater player than Sampras.
 
> That's an incredibly dumb thing to say, even by your standards.
 
Fuck you asshole... How is Laver GOAT if he is not slam king in any of the slams? Sampras invented this bullshit because Sampras won 7 Wim and 5 USO... this bullshit will disappear from RST if Federer wins Wimbledon in a few weeks.
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 11 06:06PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 6:55:04 PM UTC-5, Guypers wrote:
> > latrines at the local tennis club?
 
> > bob
 
> Nice thing to say, how about your ex wife?
 
Boobsie is too much of a misogynist to have ever been in any relationship with any female or even stripper.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 12 02:51AM +0300

Jason White kirjoitti 12.6.2017 klo 2:27:
> On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 9:18:55 AM UTC-7, soccerfan777 wrote:
>> I missed the final. But hats off to Nadal. Now he has to win it 2 more times and surpass Court at AO
 
> For sure? Sampras is superior than Nadal at 3 of the 4 slams.
 
And the one slam which Rafa leads is 10 vs 0...
:-P
 
What if Rafa had won 2 AO and 1 USO instead vice versa: would that make
him a better player?
...If your answer is 'no' - then your 'superior at 3/4 slams' comparison
has a serious logical flaw.
Jason White <infiniti_g35_guy88@yahoo.com>: Jun 11 05:22PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 4:50:53 PM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> him a better player?
> ...If your answer is 'no' - then your 'superior at 3/4 slams' comparison
> has a serious logical flaw.
 
Sampras being better at 3 of 4 isn't up for debate. That's simply true. Whether that makes him the better tennis player than Nadal is for each person to decide. I think it's worth discussing, so I brought it up. I would consider Nadal's case to be stronger with 3-7-2-3 vs. 1-10-2-2.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 11 08:33PM -0400

>him a better player?
>...If your answer is 'no' - then your 'superior at 3/4 slams' comparison
>has a serious logical flaw.
 
it's the low wimbledon count that's a flaw, not HC. not to worry,
everybody has some sort of flaw, even fed. were rafa to win another
wimbledon, or god forbid 2, it's go a long way to GOATness.
 
bob
Jason White <infiniti_g35_guy88@yahoo.com>: Jun 11 05:55PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 5:33:18 PM UTC-7, bob wrote:
> everybody has some sort of flaw, even fed. were rafa to win another
> wimbledon, or god forbid 2, it's go a long way to GOATness.
 
> bob
 
Tennis is mostly played on the hard surface. Can be mostly attributed to USTA control and influence. But 7 slams to 3 isn't insignificant. 5 year-end titles to 0 should be looked at also. We already knew Nadal is better on clay, ages ago. But how much can Nadal close the gap in other areas? Even Djokovic has advantages in these categories.
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 11 05:56PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 6:27:34 PM UTC-5, Jason White wrote:
> On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 9:18:55 AM UTC-7, soccerfan777 wrote:
> > I missed the final. But hats off to Nadal. Now he has to win it 2 more times and surpass Court at AO
 
> For sure? Sampras is superior than Nadal at 3 of the 4 slams. All the #1 stats, too.
 
And Laver is superior to whom at which of the 4 slams? Yet he is a solid GOAT candidate for many of you.
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 11 05:55PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 6:19:26 PM UTC-5, bob wrote:
 
> >Faggot!
 
> there's something wrong with you.
 
> bob
 
I know it is a sad day for you. You can live in denial for sometime but you will have to eventually accept it. Sampras is no longer relevant. The only record he had of any significance was 14 slams and now even that is surpassed by not one but two champions!
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 11 08:51PM -0400

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Federer Fanatic <TheRelentlessTide@nospam.invalid>: Jun 11 07:25PM -0500

On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 14:41:50 -0700 (PDT), calimero377@gmx.de <calimero377@gmx.de> wrote:
| On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 11:06:26 PM UTC+2, Federer Fanatic wrote:
|> On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 13:28:38 -0700 (PDT), calimero377@gmx.de <calimero377@gmx.de> wrote:
|> | On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 9:56:44 PM UTC+2, jdeluise wrote:
|> |> On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 15:48:28 -0400, bob wrote:
|> |>
|> |> > no, it's not. comey was slipping into the abyss over the course of an
|> |> > entire year or more. i liked him, but he wasn't cut out for the job.
|> |>
|> |> Sure... you liked him when he was vocally investigating Hillary, not so
|> |> much when he was investigating your associates of your hero. Typical.
|> |
|> | Comey let Hilary skate. For this alone he deserved to be fired.
|> | Incredible that she isn't in prison. Could join a cell with the orange clown. Despicable persons both.
|> |
|> |
|> | Max
|>
|>
|> Do you like Merkel? I.E., as a leader of modern Germany? She seems to enjoy her position of power.
|
|
| Yes, I like her. The best German (even european?) politician in a generation. Always voted for her (or for the Free Democrats if they were willing to form a coalition with her CDU party).
| And no, she doesn't seem to enjoy her position. Typical Protestant.
|
| Max
 
 
So she is the reluctant leader? She likes beer?
 
FF
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 11 05:40PM -0700

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 2:25:32 AM UTC+2, Federer Fanatic wrote:
> |
> | Max
 
> So she is the reluctant leader?
 
 
No.
 
> She likes beer?
 
Lol, why would she like beer?
 
 
Max
DavidW <no@email.provided>: Jun 12 10:15AM +1000

Congrats to Guypers for winning the RST 2017 RG contest with 14 points!
This was the 6th win for Guypers, all in the last 10 contests.
 
http://home.pacific.net.au/~davidw/tennis/contest/rst_2017sp_RG.html
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Jun 11 05:29PM -0700

On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 8:12:50 PM UTC-4, DavidW wrote:
> Congrats to Guypers for winning the RST 2017 RG contest with 14 points!
> This was the 6th win for Guypers, all in the last 10 contests.
 
> http://home.pacific.net.au/~davidw/tennis/contest/rst_2017sp_RG.html
 
 
Thanks for running this, much appreciated, all in good fun!
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Jun 11 08:31PM -0400

On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 17:29:14 -0700 (PDT), Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>> This was the 6th win for Guypers, all in the last 10 contests.
 
>> http://home.pacific.net.au/~davidw/tennis/contest/rst_2017sp_RG.html
 
>Thanks for running this, much appreciated, all in good fun!
 
you've won 6 of 10, that is incredible. good job.
 
bob
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