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Friday, June 23, 2017

krisraja777@gmail.com: Jun 23 07:34AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 6:30:12 PM UTC-5, bob wrote:
> >In the Weimar Republic Nazis and Commie attacked each other and both the mainstream parties - verbally and later physically. Nasty newspaper article whished death to political opponents and minorities. We know how that all ended.
 
> >So now in Germany today it is not considered "free speech" anymore when you post in the internet that "Merkel should be hanged", "jews should burn in the ovens" or "Muslims are dirty scum". Thankfully.
 
> who decides which phrases are legal or illegal?
Those kind of free speeches get reported as spam even in YouTube. It is not exercising free speech when you spread hatred; it is just being an arsehole.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 23 04:38PM +0200


>> >So now in Germany today it is not considered "free speech" anymore when you post in the internet that "Merkel should be hanged", "jews should burn in the ovens" or "Muslims are dirty scum". Thankfully.
 
>> who decides which phrases are legal or illegal?
> Those kind of free speeches get reported as spam even in YouTube. It is not exercising free speech when you spread hatred; it is just being an arsehole.
 
Well, your comments being erased/deleted on websites that enforce
their own policy, is a bit different from armed police forces
storming your house because of those comments.
 
 
 
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soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 23 08:07AM -0700


> Sometimes even Raja is perceptive.
> But why are you a liberal then ... ?
 
> Max
 
Good question... I have always been liberal in thoughts. I do not support any political party though anywhere (in US, India or rest of the world). They are all scum until proven innocent.
 
For me liberal who is accepting and assimilating with all cultures, pro-immigration (I have always been an immigrant - grew up in Bombay but my parents were from south Tamil Nadu), pro-women's rights, anti-war, anti-discrimination and pro-abortion (unless the women is a criminal/addict). I do not believing in government deciding what is best for you or your body. I do not believe in communism either. I don't think everyone is equally intelligent and deserves the same riches in life. I do think however that no one should be allowed to die on the street. I am pro-universal health care. I admire the Northern-European and Western-European system where health care and education are free (more or less). I am not for tax-cuts. If government does not tax where does it get its money from for free health care and education. I am not a socialist either. I believe in a good balance of public and private sector (30% public and 70%private?). I think countries like Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland etc do well in that regard. They all do not have the same system and I don't know the details of how they provide free education and free health care but I like the concept.

For me the so called conservatives (all over the world) are xenophobes and/or "money its a crime share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie" kind of crowd to begin with. And it is all downhill (and everything I stand against) from there.
 
Anyway you will ignore most of my post and declare me a tree-hugging hippie. So I don't have much expectations from you or the other Trumpers here.
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 23 08:10AM -0700

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:01:03 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:
 
> Well, your comments being erased/deleted on websites that enforce
> their own policy, is a bit different from armed police forces
> storming your house because of those comments.
 
Do you know what those "comments" were, Soviet boy?
 
 
Max
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 23 08:12AM -0700

> > still to this day.
 
> I don't think you know any Germans. I know many. And not a single one - young or old - says that.
> Why those racist lies? Are you a Trumper?
 
I have been to Germany and all the Germans are nice people who are proud of their heritage but humble. And I was in Munich and Bavarians are supposed to be the rudest of all Germans. I didn't sense much rudeness there. Its pretty apparent boobs has never been outside his own country. Anyone who calls a random German he sees on the Internet a Nazi, has to be ignorant troll to begin with
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 23 08:13AM -0700

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 10:01:03 AM UTC-5, *skriptis wrote:
 
> Well, your comments being erased/deleted on websites that enforce
> their own policy, is a bit different from armed police forces
> storming your house because of those comments.
And that happens in Croatia?
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 23 08:14AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 6:37:27 PM UTC-5, bob wrote:
 
> > Free trade and exchange of ideas is essential for wealth and freedom for all. Military intervention can be a tool under certain circumstances for toppling dictators who suppress their peoples.
> >US Democrats are not liberal in that European sense, though.
 
> bob
 
Whats your definition of liberal, dumbass? Let me guess... anyone who hates Trump?
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 23 08:17AM -0700

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-5, bob wrote:
> >As I said who defines what is offensive, I find it offensive that Raja says Nadal is better than Sampras, should the police arrest him cos of it?
 
> exactly. who decides what is "hate speech" or what is illegal?
 
> bob
 
Anything which talks about causing harm to a certain race, religion, culture, gender is hate speech by default. What is illegal should be decided by the courts.
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 23 08:16AM -0700

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 2:25:49 AM UTC+2, TennisGuy wrote:
> cause any damage with firemen at the ready.
 
> How selfish of you.
> You greedy bastard!
 
 
What I'm asking myself is whether people like you get an orgasm when they lie like this.
Who ever claimed the towers went down "in free fall" or "molten steel" was involved?
But people like you repeat those lies again and again and again and again.
 
 
Max
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 23 02:53PM +0300

Court_1 kirjoitti 23.6.2017 klo 4:28:
 
> "Alien: Resurrection was released on November 26,1997 and received mixed reviews from film critics. Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun-Times felt "there is not a single shot in the movie to fill one with wonder", later naming it one of the worst films of 1997."
 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Resurrection#Critical_reception
 
> It wasn't as highly regarded as some of Jeunet's other films such as Amelie, A Very Long Engagement and Delicatessen.
 
Need to see Delicatessen to make a final judgement on the quirky bastard.
 
I liked Alien Resurrection a lot, mainly because Weaver was so damn bad
ass... definitely better than Alien 3.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 23 06:01AM -0700

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 7:53:01 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
 
> Need to see Delicatessen to make a final judgement on the quirky bastard.
 
> I liked Alien Resurrection a lot, mainly because Weaver was so damn bad
> ass... definitely better than Alien 3.
 
What about "A Very Long Engagement?" No interest in that film?
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 23 04:14PM +0300

Court_1 kirjoitti 23.6.2017 klo 16:01:
 
>> I liked Alien Resurrection a lot, mainly because Weaver was so damn bad
>> ass... definitely better than Alien 3.
 
> What about "A Very Long Engagement?" No interest in that film?
 
Probably not my genre...
 
If it's serious and NOT quirky romance then I could consider.
 
Sort of like...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0783233/reference
 
Which I liked a lot.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 23 06:31AM -0700

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 9:14:51 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
 
> Sort of like...
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0783233/reference
 
> Which I liked a lot.
 
It's not a quirky romance at all although the film does have characters with quirks and it does have its lighthearted moments mixed in with the horrors of war. It's really a war film with some pretty disturbing war scenes but it's also a romance, mystery, adventure. If you liked Atonement, I think you may like this one. Give it a shot and tell me what you think. Jodi Foster has a cameo role in it.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 23 08:03AM -0700

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 6:31:57 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> It's not a quirky romance at all although the film does have characters with quirks and it does have its lighthearted moments mixed in with the horrors of war. It's really a war film with some pretty disturbing war scenes but it's also a romance, mystery, adventure. If you liked Atonement, I think you may like this one. Give it a shot and tell me what you think. Jodi Foster has a cameo role in it.
 
If that last bit was supposed to be incentive...
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 23 02:49PM +0300

The Iceberg kirjoitti 23.6.2017 klo 14:13:
> Yeah fair point, case proved really, I doubt a sizeable percentage of the population know what DDL looks like compared to Robert de Niro or Dicaprio.
 
He looks like Abraham Lincoln.
 
...Which btw was not Oscar deserving performance, imo.
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 23 02:56PM +0300

Gracchus kirjoitti 22.6.2017 klo 7:29:
>> been pretty good in those roles. i liked crazy heart and want to see
>> hell or high water soon.
 
> IMO "Crazy Heart" was nothing special. I'm sick of stories about people who want to drink themselves to death and Bridges' musical skills are nothing to brag about.
 
Have to disagree there... good story and performance.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 23 01:41PM +0200

> Yeah fair point, case proved really, I doubt a sizeable percentage of the population know what DDL looks like compared to Robert de Niro or Dicaprio.
 
He's like Nadal of movie industry with his long breaks.
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Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Jun 23 05:52AM -0700

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 7:49:07 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> > Yeah fair point, case proved really, I doubt a sizeable percentage of the population know what DDL looks like compared to Robert de Niro or Dicaprio.
 
> He looks like Abraham Lincoln.
 
> ...Which btw was not Oscar deserving performance, imo.
 
I haven't seen the movie Lincoln yet.

RE DDL, he sure didn't look like Abe Lincoln in The Last of the Mohicans!
 
*swoon*
TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 23 04:00PM +0300

Court_1 kirjoitti 23.6.2017 klo 15:52:
 
> I haven't seen the movie Lincoln yet.
 
> RE DDL, he sure didn't look like Abe Lincoln in The Last of the Mohicans!
 
> *swoon*
 
:)
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Jun 23 08:01AM -0700

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 4:56:19 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> >> hell or high water soon.
 
> > IMO "Crazy Heart" was nothing special. I'm sick of stories about people who want to drink themselves to death and Bridges' musical skills are nothing to brag about.
 
> Have to disagree there... good story and performance.
 
But you agreed that it was basically an inferior version "Tender Mercies." So either the writers of "Crazy Heart" copied the earlier film intentionally or the story wasn't that original in the first place. I suppose in both cases it was really character study above story, which I've no problem with when the character is interesting. But IMO a drunken old mediocre country singer isn't very interesting. Seriously, would you want to sit through that thing again?
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jun 23 05:43AM -0700

Gilles Muller is in scintillating grasscourt form this year, winning s'Hertogenbosch and now in the semis of Queens. Definitely a dark horse.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 23 11:07PM +1000

On 23/06/2017 10:43 PM, SliceAndDice wrote:
> Gilles Muller is in scintillating grasscourt form this year, winning s'Hertogenbosch and now in the semis of Queens. Definitely a dark horse.
 
Probably lose 1st rd Wimbledon.
 
Remember Zverev was in scintillating clay form but lost 1st rd FO.
 
 
 
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 23 07:28AM -0700

It's Cilic, I really hope Federer can avoid him.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 23 11:44PM +1000

Pretty enjoyable, fast paced, lots of eye-candy.
 
Negatives - largely predictable, characters not much substance.
 
John C Reilly the funniest & best character, Samuel L Jackson good not
great, Tom Hiddleston no gravitas - too wimpy to play a leading man.
The monkey had more personality than most of the actors.
 
Rating : somewhere between 6-5 to 7 overall.
 
 
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soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 23 06:53AM -0700

Your rating is not in line with the review. It should be 2/10 based on what you said
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