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Monday, June 5, 2017

Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Jun 05 08:11PM +1000

On 5/06/2017 7:45 PM, The Iceberg wrote:
> We should still respect Fed a bit for exploiting the situation when the other better players are out of sorts though and having the best clown thrashing record ever seen!
 
Yes, this is a big feather in Fed's cap. He never played half arsed -
treated every single match like a Wimbledon final, whether it was a
Wimbledon final or 1st rd qualifiers.
 
 
 
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heyguys00@gmail.com: Jun 05 08:28AM -0700

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:11:46 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
> Yes, this is a big feather in Fed's cap. He never played half arsed -
> treated every single match like a Wimbledon final, whether it was a
> Wimbledon final or 1st rd qualifiers.
 
Maybe that's the secret to separating yourself from other GOAT contenders. It would take savant-level mental focus and toughness for Fed to do what you describe. Maybe in the end that's more important than best at best.
 
I mean, if Djok were able to do it he wouldn't have crashed after last year's FO. If Rafa were able to do it he wouldn't crash out of 25% of slams before the semis...
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jun 05 08:06AM -0500

Murray has been so lackluster i kinda expected him to lose today. Looks
pointless, as beating Nadal in the final would seemingly take a miracle.
 
But hey, anything can happen. Good job Andy.
 
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soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Jun 05 07:01AM -0700

So you every time a Brit wins you rejoice. Is it because you consider UK to be an ally? Will you do the same every time a Saudi Arabian wins considering Trump is close friends with them?
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jun 05 08:21AM -0700

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 9:06:48 AM UTC-4, StephenJ wrote:
 
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Murray has been looking good since the DelPo match. Could sneak past Wawrinka, who isn't looking as good at the moment. However, very difficult to tell with Stan, he is a dark horse in the true sense.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Jun 05 08:21AM -0700

Will he?
undecided <costasz@gmail.com>: Jun 05 07:58AM -0700

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:09:49 AM UTC-4, John Liang wrote:
 
> > > He was 6'3 and I don't think that is tall enough to deal with the bounce Nadal was able to generate. Safin and Del Po probably were probably the only guys weren't be bother by the bounce as they both are well above 6'4, have two handed backhand.
 
> > It's not just the physical height. He also had a BH that could come over the ball at or near shoulder height. He could also hit it pretty flat, kind of like Wawrinka.
 
> I just don't think that will be enough, Guga is not what I called strongly build, he is taller but much thinner, on the backhand side Wawrinka can probably flat out this shot with unmatched power, I don't think Guga can match the sort of power that Wawrinka can generate, Guga's backhand is more on par with Federer but with a lot less variety. I don't see him troubling Nadal at all with his game on clay or on any other surfaces.
 
Guga was thin and light thus he could move extremely well. His BH was not meant to overpower opponents like Wawrinka's is. His BH was more about long rallies, direction and top spin. We'd see some incredible long rallies with Guga vs Rafa.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jun 05 08:13AM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 4:45:18 PM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:
> On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 1:40:36 PM UTC-7, undecided wrote:
 
> > I would have liked to see Guga vs Nadal at the FO....Guga had a very fluid clay court game.
 
> Yes, me too. He had a better serve and a great BH. He was tall enough to deal with the bounce.
 
+1. Muster/Nadal would probably put me to sleep.
undecided <costasz@gmail.com>: Jun 05 07:55AM -0700

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:29:57 PM UTC-4, Patrick Kehoe wrote:
 
> > Somehow these better shots will not be there any more when the clay season is over.
 
> He has just that fraction more time on clay, than he does on hardcourt and that makes all the difference timing his backhand cross court shots and the forehand buggy whip bender down the line... with those firing, he's a unique kinda monster out there... on hard court and grass he just doesn't have those milla second set up intervals to the same extent... and that equates to big hitting making him more reactive and less able to reverse defence into offensive strikes... on the clay, he can turn a point around almost at will sometimes...
 
> P
 
Having time to get in position and wind up these shots seems to be his problem. Clay helps in that respect. Now, better opponents may take away some of that time so that even Clay may not help. Let's see when he faces Djoker/Wawrinka.
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jun 05 02:04PM +0100


> No private jets to nice conference locations, no stylish receptions and parties anymore?
 
The next UN Climate Change Conference (COP23) is in Bonn in November,
COP24 should be in Katowice in Nov 2018 & COP25 in 2019 at a location
yet to be decided. They are annual events.
 
Not sure Bonn or Katowice in November are necessarily nice locations though.
 
The UNFCCC hold other meetings too:
 
<http://unfccc.int/meetings/unfccc_calendar/items/2655.php>
 
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Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jun 05 02:16PM +0100

On 01/06/2017 15:35, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
 
 
> Trump's true base—those who approved strongly—has shrunk from about 30
> percent of the electorate in February to just about 20 percent in May.
 
> http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-latest-approval-rating-drops-support-among-diehard-backers-618492
 
The rolling Gallup Daily poll has just gone down to 36% (01-03 June).
It has only been lower once - 35% 26-28 March.
 
 
 
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TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: Jun 05 04:33PM +0300

Brian W Lawrence kirjoitti 5.6.2017 klo 16:16:
 
>> http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-latest-approval-rating-drops-support-among-diehard-backers-618492
 
> The rolling Gallup Daily poll has just gone down to 36% (01-03 June).
> It has only been lower once - 35% 26-28 March.
 
It's just one poll (and not very good at that).
 
38,9%:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 05 07:28AM -0700

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 3:16:37 PM UTC+2, Brian W Lawrence wrote:
 
> > http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-latest-approval-rating-drops-support-among-diehard-backers-618492
 
> The rolling Gallup Daily poll has just gone down to 36% (01-03 June).
> It has only been lower once - 35% 26-28 March.
 
Gallup?
Those guys who gave Hillary a 96 % chance to win ... ?
 
Lol
 
 
Max
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Jun 05 05:18PM +0300

Lost the 1st 0-6, won the fourth 6-0 against Verdasco.
 
Thoughtful.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jun 05 07:25AM -0700

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 10:18:33 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
> Lost the 1st 0-6, won the fourth 6-0 against Verdasco.
 
> Thoughtful.
 
Nishi is (surprisingly for me, considering his style of play) very good on clay. Will likely get mauled by Murray in the next round though. Andy seems to have rediscovered his form.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 05 02:39PM +0200


> But with tennis "heroes", you're supposed to wear chastity belts all
> your life if you fall out with the previous hero?!
 
> Ridiculous! How old are you?! 13?
 
Haha.
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SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: Jun 05 07:02AM -0700

Has been cruising through her matches so far. Match against Svitolina could well decide the new champion. I am not counting out Mladenovic, she seems to be feeding off the French frenzy.
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Jun 05 02:35PM +0100

On 03/06/2017 10:31, Brian W Lawrence wrote:
 
>>> Well put.
 
>> Brian says it's no big deal.
 
> Cite?
 
No?
 
If you check what I actually typed I was talking about climate science
research funding. The long term effect on the US' standing in the world
could be quite severe, although I doubt that the president and his
supporters are bothered at the moment.
 
 
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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 05 03:10PM +0200


>> Therefore Pittsburg vs Paris. Makes perfect sense.
 
> The Accord has nothing to do with Paris apart from a meeting held
> there long after the US and most other countries had signed up.
 
So?
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jun 05 08:14AM -0500

> On 6/4/2017 8:37 PM, heyguys00@gmail.com wrote:
> He has a daughter in school who wants to stay in DC.
 
I wonder if it's a public school of the kind he thinks other Americans
should attend?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jun 05 08:17AM -0500

On 6/5/2017 3:45 AM, Brian W Lawrence wrote:
 
>> what is fake about obama sticking around buying a home in DC being bad
>> form? did he not buy the house after all?
 
> Surely Obama, or any US citizen, can live anywhere they choose?
 
It's not a question of what Obama has the right to do, it's what he
should do. In the USA, there's a bi-partisan tradition of the old
President "going away" politically once his term of office is over, of
staying out of the limelight, rarely commenting about the job his
successor is doing, or even on public events more generally.
 
And typically, part of that is retreating far away from the center of
power, Washington.
 
 
 
 
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calimero377@gmx.de: Jun 05 06:14AM -0700

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 2:49:01 PM UTC+2, Brian W Lawrence wrote:
 
> Yes, and I've not read or heard anything like that, which was why I
> asked. It's not something discussed by UK media, which is what I read
> and listen to most.
 
Read the NYT, WaPo, AP and listen to CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC.
 
 
Max
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jun 05 08:10AM -0500

On 6/4/2017 11:40 AM, TT wrote:
 
>> er, yes. Sorry if that wasn't clear, LOL.
 
> Did you notice that there are 9 more pages... it's a list of 1000 films,
> not 100...
 
Nope, I thought it stopped at 100, so that's what my comment referred
to. So to be clear, those are the 5 films out of the first 100 that I
haven't seen.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jun 05 08:11AM -0500

On 6/4/2017 8:08 PM, bob wrote:
 
>> I am. I don't believe he's seen 996/1001 movies on that list of greatest all time movies.
 
> jaros sees movies almost every day, he posts when he goes and i've
> witnessed it for a couple yrs.
 
Actually, in this case I have not. I thought the list stopped at 100, so
those were the 5 films out of the first 100 that I haven't seen. I
didn't look at the other 900 films, LOL. :)
 
 
 
 
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stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: Jun 05 08:05AM -0500


>> Forget it max, we said Bye Bye to Steffi months ago, LOL!
 
> You said bye, bye to Steffi already ...
 
Bye Bye Steffi !!! :)
 
 
 
 
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