Digest for rec.sport.pro-wrestling@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 4 topics

Friday, June 2, 2017

Freezer <freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com>: Jun 02 12:58PM

If I don't reply to this post, the terroists win.
 
> Not really. They added the 619 and other touches. Kind of
> like how Eddie was allowed to be on top of the card because
> Latino Heat was a WWE idea.
 
But my point was they treated Rey as legit from the start. Not as
"one of those other guys."
hobbyfan@yahoo.com: Jun 02 06:17AM -0700

> My post was more a jab at how people seem to find ways to join The Lawsuit. Some who too never worked extensively for Vince.
 
Ah, yes, Konstantine Kyros and his ambulance-chasing, hoping for a big payday at Vince's expense---and failing.
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Jun 02 08:31AM -0700

> Shinsuke Nakamura is one of the best professional wrestlers in the
> world. The fact that you are unable to appreciate his work is
> further proof of your idiocy.
 
Nakamura may be good in Japan, but that does not necessarily transfer to the WWE. Wrestling in the US is completely different from what goes on in Japan. Charisma is VERY important in the US as well as angles -- not the case in Japan. I have seen him a couple of times and have not been overly impressed at all. The guy got an immediate push and I don't know if that kind of thing is warranted being that he came from such a different wrestling culture. The WWE can do what they want to but I for one have not been moved one iota by his presence to view Smackdown on a more regular basis because of him.
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Jun 02 08:34AM -0700

> On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 1:35:48 PM UTC-4, robert stickler wrote:
> > He has no charisma
 
> Yes, he does. People sing along with his theme music, in case you haven't noticed. WWE Uncreative doesn't know how to address that, so they're trying to pigeon-hole him into "just another WWE superstar". More proof that Vince is nuts.
 
People danced to Fandango's music. That doesn't necessarily mean someone has charisma. It means the music is good and that's IT. Creative can't ve blamed for every failure or else you have to credit them for every success.
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Jun 02 08:42AM -0700

> On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 3:32:03 PM UTC-4, robert stickler wrote:
> > But I hate him
 
> Educate yourself on Nakamura, Rob. Rent some New Japan or Ring of Honor DVD's. If you can't rent, buy. Places like FYE and Best Buy will have them.
 
Do I have to rent tapes from every minor league team to assess baseball players when they come into the MLB or do I wait to see how they actually hit big league pitching? It doesn't matter what they do in New Japan or ROH or anything until they hit "the big leagues." Now, there are different grade levels in pro wrestling just as there are in baseball (Triple A, Double A, Japanese baseball, etc.) but it just doesn't matter what they have done until they reach the big leagues. Same in pro wrestling. These other wrestling promotions simply are NOT on par with WWE, no matter what kind of pedigree people claim they have. Lots of Japanese baseball players who are stars over there fail big time in the US for many reasons. Same goes in pro wrestling. Until you lace up the boots and wow them in MSG, you haven't even come close to the brass ring.
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Jun 02 08:45AM -0700

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 9:27:21 AM UTC-5, Freezer wrote:
 
> More like Vince can't tolerate someone getting over *his way*.
> See also: treating every ex-WCW guy like trash when they first
> crossed over*.
 
Good grief, man! How many years ago did Vince bury WCW wrestlers after he bought them out? That certainly doesn't happen nowadays! Look at Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Austin Aries, etc. If someone can make the promotion money, Vince doesn't care what there past is.
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Jun 02 08:50AM -0700


> > > On the other hand, if one cannot succeed at other people's styles, what does that say about them as a performer?
 
> > Jim's right on that point. Rey couldn't use the Bronco Buster, which he'd lifted from X-Pac, so they came up with the 619, which Rey has incorporated into his moveset ever since. The hydraulics they used when Rey first came in was another "touch" WWE added.
 
> So could Perro Aguayo's family technically sue WWE for coming up with the 619?
 
How many different versions are there of the RKO/Stunner?Diamond Cutter? Or The Scorpion Death Lock? Or how about AJ Styles' finisher that was copied by McCool? Can you imagine a judge's reaction to somebody who wants to sue over a professional wrestling finisher? They have a lot more important things to do. Even a jaywalking case would rank above this. Now, who is gonna sue over that bat flipping thing in the MLB? Surely SOMEBODY started that!
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Jun 02 08:51AM -0700

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 10:34:58 AM UTC-5, Trijcomm wrote:
> > > He has no charisma
 
> > Yes, he does. People sing along with his theme music, in case you haven't noticed. WWE Uncreative doesn't know how to address that, so they're trying to pigeon-hole him into "just another WWE superstar". More proof that Vince is nuts.
 
> People danced to Fandango's music. That doesn't necessarily mean someone has charisma. It means the music is good and that's IT. Creative can't be blamed for every failure or else you have to credit them for every success.
 
spelling error fixed
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Jun 02 08:53AM -0700

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 10:45:13 AM UTC-5, Trijcomm wrote:
> > See also: treating every ex-WCW guy like trash when they first
> > crossed over*.
 
> Good grief, man! How many years ago did Vince bury WCW wrestlers after he bought them out? That certainly doesn't happen nowadays! Look at Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Austin Aries, etc. If someone can make the promotion money, Vince doesn't care what their past is.
 
Spelling error fixed. Spell check didn't catch it, of course.
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Jun 02 10:33AM -0700

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 11:42:40 AM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> > > But I hate him
 
> > Educate yourself on Nakamura, Rob. Rent some New Japan or Ring of Honor DVD's. If you can't rent, buy. Places like FYE and Best Buy will have them.
 
> Now, there are different grade levels in pro wrestling just as there are in baseball (Triple A, Double A, Japanese baseball, etc.) but it just doesn't matter what they have done until they reach the big leagues. Same in pro wrestling. These other wrestling promotions simply are NOT on par with WWE, no matter what kind of pedigree people claim they have. Lots of Japanese baseball players who are stars over there fail big time in the US for many reasons. Same goes in pro wrestling. Until you lace up the boots and wow them in MSG, you haven't even come close to the brass ring.
 
You continue to prove you are as ignorant about wrestling as you are politics
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Jun 02 10:43AM -0700

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 12:33:33 PM UTC-5, me wrote:
 
> > > Educate yourself on Nakamura, Rob. Rent some New Japan or Ring of Honor DVD's. If you can't rent, buy. Places like FYE and Best Buy will have them.
 
> > Now, there are different grade levels in pro wrestling just as there are in baseball (Triple A, Double A, Japanese baseball, etc.) but it just doesn't matter what they have done until they reach the big leagues. Same in pro wrestling. These other wrestling promotions simply are NOT on par with WWE, no matter what kind of pedigree people claim they have. Lots of Japanese baseball players who are stars over there fail big time in the US for many reasons. Same goes in pro wrestling. Until you lace up the boots and wow them in MSG, you haven't even come close to the brass ring.
 
> You continue to prove you are as ignorant about wrestling as you are politics
 
Obviously I am glad you believe that because it shows I am right on the mark since you admitted you don't even have a brain to think with. Thanks for the confirmation.
"Aldrichtom" <Aldrichtom@stilllost.com>: Jun 02 07:10PM

On 2-Jun-2017, wrote:
 
> > close to the brass ring.
 
> You continue to prove you are as ignorant about wrestling as you are
> politics
 
I find the whole production a huge waste of time, if I want to watch a dance
off then I will watch some ham and egger production on Prime time channel. I
want to watch wrestling.
hobbyfan@yahoo.com: Jun 02 11:05AM -0700

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 1:33:33 PM UTC-4, me wrote:
 
> > > Educate yourself on Nakamura, Rob. Rent some New Japan or Ring of Honor DVD's. If you can't rent, buy. Places like FYE and Best Buy will have them.
 
> > Now, there are different grade levels in pro wrestling just as there are in baseball (Triple A, Double A, Japanese baseball, etc.) but it just doesn't matter what they have done until they reach the big leagues. Same in pro wrestling. These other wrestling promotions simply are NOT on par with WWE, no matter what kind of pedigree people claim they have. Lots of Japanese baseball players who are stars over there fail big time in the US for many reasons. Same goes in pro wrestling. Until you lace up the boots and wow them in MSG, you haven't even come close to the brass ring.
 
> You continue to prove you are as ignorant about wrestling as you are politics
 
What Rev. Dimwit fails to comprehend is that New Japan is that country's equivalent to WWE in terms of "the big leagues". Japan has 2 baseball leagues, same as we do. Their stars come here, lured, like in every other line of work, by money and greater fame. Our athletes, after their primes, go the other way to extend their careers and help younger athletes learn the game.
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Jun 02 11:17AM -0700

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 1:43:50 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
 
> > > Now, there are different grade levels in pro wrestling just as there are in baseball (Triple A, Double A, Japanese baseball, etc.) but it just doesn't matter what they have done until they reach the big leagues. Same in pro wrestling. These other wrestling promotions simply are NOT on par with WWE, no matter what kind of pedigree people claim they have. Lots of Japanese baseball players who are stars over there fail big time in the US for many reasons. Same goes in pro wrestling. Until you lace up the boots and wow them in MSG, you haven't even come close to the brass ring.
 
> > You continue to prove you are as ignorant about wrestling as you are politics
 
> Obviously I am glad you believe that because it shows I am right on the mark since you admitted you don't even have a brain to think with. Thanks for the confirmation.
 
please provide proof where I said I didn't have a brain. Oh wait! I never said that! So once again, you show your ignorance. You are wrong about wrestling, you are wrong about politics, you are wrong about everything.
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: Jun 02 03:23PM -0700

Me never watches wrestling
fitnessforyou2002@yahoo.com: Jun 02 11:29AM -0700

What would that be like?
" %" <persent@gmail.com>: Jun 02 01:24PM -0700

> What would that be like?
 
a flat rat in the rain
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: Jun 02 01:59PM -0700

> What would that be like?
 
mishawacky mash
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: Jun 02 03:22PM -0700

How cool!
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: Jun 02 05:56AM -0700

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 12:20:41 AM UTC-4, robert stickler wrote:
 
> > > 11;55 pm
 
> > 21:00 no am no pm
 
> 12:20 am
 
8;55 aqm
" %" <persent@gmail.com>: Jun 02 08:00AM -0700

The Brunei Bindlestiff wrote:
 
>>> 21:00 no am no pm
 
>> 12:20 am
 
> 8;55 aqm
 
the big hand is on the 12 and the little hand is on the 8
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: Jun 02 02:01PM -0700

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 11:00:34 AM UTC-4, % wrote:
 
> >> 12:20 am
 
> > 8;55 aqm
 
> the big hand is on the 12 and the little hand is on the 8
 
5;00 pm
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: Jun 02 03:21PM -0700

6:21 pm
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: Jun 02 02:02PM -0700

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 12:22:18 AM UTC-4, robert stickler wrote:
> > > Take my life?
 
> > Sure!
 
> threat reported to the fbi.
 
fbi on the hunt for the idiot prank calling them.
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: Jun 02 03:20PM -0700

A prank call?
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