Digest for rec.sport.football.college@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

Tuesday, June 20, 2017

Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 21 12:01AM -0400

On 6/20/2017 3:29 PM, wolfie wrote:
>> IF you read it, you saw that I'm correct.
 
> No, I didn't. If you think you are, quote the part of
> the law backing you up. I did, after all.
 
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=us+code+immigration
darkstar7646@gmail.com: Jun 20 09:15PM -0700

On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 7:13:21 AM UTC-7, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
> > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-shoot-down-all-flying-objects-in-syria-us-regime-warplane-isis-terror-a7797101.html
 
> > You're doing a fine job, Trumpy.
 
> But I thought he was colluding?
 
Who says he's colluding in the USA's interests?
 
Trump would be very happy seeing most of our cities turned to smoldering ash.
 
Mike
darkstar7646@gmail.com: Jun 20 09:18PM -0700

On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 7:20:14 AM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:
 
> This just shows how little respect they have for him. He sold his soul to Putin and got nothing in return. Well, that's not exactly true. The country got nothing in return. He got sweet loans from Russian banks and oligarchs when no bank with any sense would touch him. Maybe he's just paying them back the only way he can afford to.
 
Putin is evil, homophobic, and a pig.
 
One thing he is NOT is stupid.
 
That's why he is the most powerful man in the world and 2nd place isn't even close!
 
Mike
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jun 20 08:46PM -0700

Watch Chelsea Clinton shame Steve Bannon
and the entire White House.
<http://tinyurl.com/y73dme5v>
 
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Michael Press
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jun 20 08:01PM -0700

...please stand up and bring your $23 million. Got this whole pallet of whoop-ass that's barely been used.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jun 20 10:04PM


>> Life ain't fair. Get over it.
 
>Says the guy on not one, but two, government paid
>health care plans.
 
But I had to earn them. I want some unentitled money.
 
Life ain't fair but I got over it.
 
Hugh
 
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Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jun 20 10:08PM

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:28:56 -0400, Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>
wrote:
 
 
>> Says the guy on not one, but two, government paid
>> health care plans.
 
>That he earned.
 
Give him a break - he doesn't know what EARNED means. He thinks
ear-ning is an ear infection.
 
Hugh
 
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Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jun 20 10:09PM

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:29:59 -0400, Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>
wrote:
 
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>I bet I said the same thing to convicts at least 5 times a day.
 
If wolfie was one he never knew what you meant.
 
Hugh
"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com>: Jun 20 03:22PM -0500

>> Second, the slow-walking that you describe is what the Republicans
>> did for the entirety of Obama's term.
 
> $1 to "Death Panels"
 
There is a good distance from that to accusing the opposing party's
legislators, in so many words, of murder.
 
--
Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed. -- Francis Bacon
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 20 04:25PM -0400

On 6/20/2017 4:16 PM, xyzzy wrote:
>>> everything, even approvals of appointments that are a slamdunk.
 
>> Are you even listening to yourself? First, you seems to be describing why Democrats and Republicans can't bargain on any abortion bill. Second, the slow-walking that you describe is what the Republicans did for the entirety of Obama's term.
 
> $1 to "Death Panels"
 
Death Panel = Triage
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 20 04:28PM -0400

On 6/20/2017 3:55 PM, wolfie wrote:
>> Life ain't fair. Get over it.
 
> Says the guy on not one, but two, government paid
> health care plans.
 
That he earned.
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 20 04:29PM -0400

On 6/20/2017 3:43 PM, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
 
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I bet I said the same thing to convicts at least 5 times a day.
"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Jun 20 07:23PM -0400

"Ken Olson" wrote
 
>> Says the guy on not one, but two, government paid
>> health care plans.
 
> That he earned.
 
Nah, he's said the government taking money from one
person and giving it to another is socialism. I'm pretty
sure he's against that.
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jun 20 04:56PM -0700

In article <247635b0-275c-4e43-977c-eb218a9240ad@googlegroups.com>,
 
> Obamacare had 100 Senate hearings and 161 amendments from Republicans.
 
> That the Democrats couldn't get it passed in a bipartisan nature was not for lack of trying.
 
> Repubs aren't even trying.
 
Don't want to. Just watching the dumpster fire
that the Democratic Party started.
 
> It's supremely ironic that you are chastising the Democrats for supposedly passing it by themselves because they had the power, when you're describing what the GOP is doing now, to a T.
 
Government participation in the financial end of medicine
is a disaster. Now that government is in, how does it get out?
 
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Michael Press
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jun 20 04:58PM -0700

In article <59497aaf.199361718@news.eternal-september.org>,
 
> >So, all you free market types - what's the free market
> >solution here?
 
> Life ain't fair. Get over it.
 
Riposte of the week.
 
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Michael Press
"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Jun 20 08:14PM -0400

"Michael Press" wrote
 
>>> solution here?
 
>> Life ain't fair. Get over it.
 
> Riposte of the week.
 
Standard low-information, no idea reply. My kid
did better on the playground at 4yo.
"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Jun 20 08:16PM -0400

"Michael Press" wrote
 
> Government participation in the financial end of medicine
> is a disaster.
 
Best results for lowest price medical care in US? Government-ran.
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 20 08:41PM -0400

On 6/20/2017 7:23 PM, wolfie wrote:
 
> Nah, he's said the government taking money from one
> person and giving it to another is socialism. I'm pretty
> sure he's against that.
 
So am I, but that doesn't mean I will give my money to a system without
taking what I have coming from it, or more likely my wife, as I don't
expect to live long enough to collect.
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: Jun 20 07:40PM -0700

Apparently they do remember that.
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jun 20 06:55PM -0700

Rachel Maddow abandons coverage of the Handel-Ossoff
election returns to report that "Vladimir Putin money went to Trump".
 
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Michael Press
CtrlAltDel <altiemcd@aol.com>: Jun 21 01:51AM

for Michelle Obama and posse to travel the world on the backs of the
working poor from Appalachia? That is bullshit as they already put dirt
and mud into a lot of their meals to make them stretch.
CtrlAltDel <altiemcd@aol.com>: Jun 21 01:41AM

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 06:53:28 -0700, xyzzy wrote:
 
 
> And one other thing, looking at the picture of the "melted roads" in
> that article, the road surface itself didn't melt or buckle, it's the
> pothole patches that did. Probably uses a different, softer material.
 
Okay, I noticed it was just the potholes after you mentioned it. And
Wolfie posted a link and makes it seem plausible that perhaps
Englanistanians just love melting infrastructure stories for some reason.
 
It may be like Drudge always posting stories about squalid conditions
being found among dozens or even hundreds of animals in a home. There is
almost always a story about animals being taken out of a house. If your
only contact with the outside world was Drudge, you may start to believe
that everyone had about a foot of cat feces on the floor of their homes.
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: Jun 20 04:22PM -0700

On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 7:31:13 PM UTC-5, Michael Press wrote:
 
> There are thousands of surveys. If you ever participated in one
> then you would know enough not to trust them. Everybody shades
> their answers. I do.
 
Of course they are not precise and of course there are problems with who participates by nature, but thats true of any field. Just as some physics phds in the private sector underreport(or overreport), so do people in every field. combining that with all the other information(published govt salaries, published academia salaries, posted job listings, forum boards, etc) presents a more complete picture. But the surveys most definately mean something when comparing one field to another- if field A pays an average of x and field B pays an average of 2.5x, it's a pretty damn good bet that field B overall pays a lot more...even if the individual numbers for each arent that precise.
A physics PHD(or any hard science phd) is not a safe route to a guaranteed income in the top 3% or so. Especially when you look at the number of years involved. It's only reasonable that I lot of really smart people look at that reality and decide to do something else.
 
That's not to say most people with physics PHDs aren't really smart. I'm sure they almost all are. Just pointing out that a lot of other really smart* people opt not to study fields like that for financial and lifestyle reasons.
 
*I was not one of those as I couldn't pass calculus 2 without 3 attempts. I scored a 470 on my math sat. But in my med school class there were many 'hard' science and engineering types with graduate degrees in those disciplines(and engineering if that counts) who were at the top of their class/program but chose not to make a career out of it because of that reality.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jun 20 10:14PM

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:27:09 -0700, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>
wrote:
 
 
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SCOTUS said offensive trademarks are allowed by the Constitution. That
means political correctness is no longer an excuse for lying.
Hail to the Redskins.
 
Hugh
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jun 20 01:27PM -0700

Kenneth Nail, mayor of Hanceville, Ala., asked Mitch Landrieu,
mayor of New Orleans, for the four monuments
that were taken down in May. The New Orleans mayor
has not responded, but Nail reports that he has received
only positive feedback regarding his request.
 
Good on you, Mister Mayor.
 
<http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/20/alabama-mayor-offers-to-take-the-confederate-statues-new-orleans-tore-down/>
 
<http://tinyurl.com/y6vryrbo>
 
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