Digest for rec.sport.football.college@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 10 topics

Monday, June 26, 2017

"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: Jun 26 02:59PM -0700

You can bet when you're in a government healthcare facility under a single payer federal program, there won't be any waterfalls in the parts of the hospital you're in.
 
The administrative wing might be a different story.
"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Jun 26 06:01PM -0400

"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" wrote
"wolfie" wrote:
 
>> I'm all for free markets. Healthcare isn't one and can't be.
> Price controls sure aren't working well.
 
What price controls?
 
Obamacare was a free-market solution - here's some money,
go buy insurance. Only critical rules were "you can't make the rest
of us pay for your healthcare when you don't buy coverage" and
"the coverage you buy has to actually do something."
"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Jun 26 06:03PM -0400

"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" wrote
 
>> Most of health care is "pay or die" - we both know this.
 
> IsN'T
 
Really? Like what, other than stuff you shouldn't
need insurance to cover anyway (common cold, etc.)
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: Jun 26 03:04PM -0700

> Obamacare was a free-market solution...
 
 
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA!!!
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jun 26 03:56PM -0700

On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 2:41:27 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
 
> assuming anything he says is true, mia is an example of one of the three biggest problems. His talk of his income (and he's a fairly small fry in the system) shows that medical people simply make too much money.
 
NO CARRIER
 
In a capitalistic society, there is no such thing.
dotslashderek@gmail.com: Jun 26 06:16PM -0700

All (or the vast majority) of the "Silicon valley" folks are in favor of single payer, Germany / Australia similar systems, cheezy. What do you make of that?
 
And I'd include all the major players there - including Athena, helmed by one "some bush offspring" jr.
 
The people *in* the system know where the inefficiencies are and it's nowhere in the vacinity of government over reach. And this is an obvious place where capitalism fails (what's the alternative to the fda again? Right, enough of us die from taint that the backlash affects some companies bottom line).
 
All I see is a proposal about a hypothetical problem (where do you the draw the line, gonna be rationing) as an excuse to bury our poorest because they don't meet the grade.
 
And even that might be fine if you weren't also adding poor kids to the list. Show me a system where a kid born in Cass has the same access to opportunity as a kid born in bloomfield. It ain't no holds bar capitalism.
 
Cheers.
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: Jun 26 03:03PM -0700

Let's discuss some things that have improved via nationalization.
 
Air travel? Nope
 
Education? Nope
 
VA Medical centers? Nope
 
Health Insurance? Nope
 
I'm sure there is something.
Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com>: Jun 26 03:17PM -0700


> VA Medical centers? Nope
 
> Health Insurance? Nope
 
> I'm sure there is something.
 
this is like a Monty Python movie. The interstate road system. Well, of course, the interstate road system. What else?
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jun 26 04:01PM -0700

On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 5:18:03 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
 
> > Health Insurance? Nope
 
> > I'm sure there is something.
 
> this is like a Monty Python movie. The interstate road system. Well, of course, the interstate road system. What else?
 
The military, up until Veet Nam and social engineering.
"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Jun 26 09:02PM -0400

"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" wrote
 
 
> VA Medical centers? Nope
 
> Health Insurance? Nope
 
> I'm sure there is something.
 
You should go to Somalia. They don't have anything like
those things there, total non-government free market.
You're bound to think it's a paradise.
dotslashderek@gmail.com: Jun 26 06:04PM -0700

Love to see you roll out your proof on education.
 
Please to be controlling for things like single parent families. Asking for a friend.
 
Cheers.
Some dued <theodoreward@gmail.com>: Jun 26 06:14PM -0700

Not to mention that "improved" is so subjective as to be meaningless. You can always claim victory with that criteria.
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 26 09:03PM -0400

http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2014/05/139936-25-images-prove-climate-changes-whether-man-anything/
"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <iamtj4life@gmail.com>: Jun 26 01:47PM -0700

low tonight in Madison will be about 48-50.
 
Feels more like fall.
 
And what happens in fall?
 
FOOTBALL HAPPENS
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: Jun 26 02:48PM -0700

We were like that a few weeks ago. Dry and cool.
 
Now, we've just had the remnants of a cyclone blow though and it's warm and muggy.
Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com>: Jun 26 03:23PM -0700

> We were like that a few weeks ago. Dry and cool.
 
> Now, we've just had the remnants of a cyclone blow though and it's warm and muggy.
 
not sure what the temperature was yesterday. My phone said 98. Weather Underground said (I'm not joking) 112. I'm assuming the weather stations they use can't handle temperatures above a certain point. The Oregonian said downtown was 101.
 
Here's a reassuring headline: "Hawthorne Bridge malfunctions twice over weekend; record heat blamed"
Some dued <theodoreward@gmail.com>: Jun 26 05:31PM -0700

Oklahoma has been low 90s, unseasonably cool so far. It barely got cold over the winter too. That used to be called an Indian Summer when it happened for a few days in Winter. Now its called Winter.
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 26 08:46PM -0400

On 6/26/2017 8:31 PM, Some dued wrote:
> Oklahoma has been low 90s, unseasonably cool so far. It barely got cold over the winter too. That used to be called an Indian Summer when it happened for a few days in Winter. Now its called Winter.
 
It's supposed to be in the 40's in my area tonight.
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 26 08:16PM -0400

On 6/26/2017 12:22 PM, Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger wrote:
> Travel ban injunction: Stayed.
 
9-0 at that.
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 26 07:14PM -0400

On 6/26/2017 3:16 PM, Some dued wrote:
> I CAN read but know when to and when to not.
 
tmml
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jun 26 03:55PM -0700

> Theater is a right.
 
> I want my free theater.
 
> http://freebeacon.com/culture/feds-spend-20000-musical-illegal-immigrant-lesbian/
 
Trump got my vote in order to end this bullstuff. SAD!
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: Jun 26 01:30PM -0700

http://ijr.com/opinion/2017/06/265683-ran-wisconsins-successful-high-risk-pool-obamacare-heres-actually-worked/
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jun 26 03:53PM -0700

> http://ijr.com/opinion/2017/06/265683-ran-wisconsins-successful-high-risk-pool-obamacare-heres-actually-worked/
 
If it ain't broke, fix it until it's broke.
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: Jun 26 02:43PM -0700

https://mobile.twitter.com/FoxNews/status/879053212338327554
GrtArtiste <nineorbs@yahoo.com>: Jun 26 02:44PM -0400

On 6/26/2017 1:26 PM, JGibson wrote:
> I'm pretty sure I don't want a job in "Quality Assurenace" although maybe that spelling shows why they need somebody.
 
I'm sure you know what a "tendon" is.
 
I rec'd a message today from a customer at his car dealership who
complained that the "tendon" didn't wait on him immediately. Go figure.
 
GrtArtiste
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