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Tuesday, June 20, 2017

Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jun 20 01:27PM -0700

Kenneth Nail, mayor of Hanceville, Ala., asked Mitch Landrieu,
mayor of New Orleans, for the four monuments
that were taken down in May. The New Orleans mayor
has not responded, but Nail reports that he has received
only positive feedback regarding his request.
 
Good on you, Mister Mayor.
 
<http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/20/alabama-mayor-offers-to-take-the-confederate-statues-new-orleans-tore-down/>
 
<http://tinyurl.com/y6vryrbo>
 
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Futbol Phan <sgzphd@gmail.com>: Jun 20 02:58PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 3:27:14 PM UTC-5, Michael Press wrote:
 
> <http://tinyurl.com/y6vryrbo>
 
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> Michael Press
 
If the mayor of a nowhere town of 3000 people wants to re-erect statues of four individuals who tried to destroy the United States, good for him. Maybe it will become a tourist attraction; can only help in a place where a quarter of the people live below the poverty line.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jun 20 07:32PM

>> of the "Russians hacking the election" is microscopic.
 
>Define "hacking the election."
 
>The Russians had an obvious effect on the election.
 
So did Obama and Hillary so what's your point?
 
Hugh
 
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Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jun 20 12:17PM -0700

In article <f33511ef-db0a-431f-83e2-132121d59302@googlegroups.com>,
> > > citizen.
 
> > We have not seen a birth certificate.
 
> You're completely unhinged.
 
Show us the birth certificate.
 
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Michael Press
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jun 20 07:29PM

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:33:18 -0700 (PDT), xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>> > citizen.
 
>> We have not seen a birth certificate.
 
>You're completely unhinged.
 
The certificate of live birth lists him as Obama II, not Obama, Jr.
 
II is usually for same name but descent from a relative (brother?) not
direct descent. Do you know why that was?
 
Isn't saying he is black when only half-black inaccurate, even a lie?
 
Hugh
 
 
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Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jun 20 07:38PM

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:50:27 -0700 (PDT), xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>> > http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/politics/trump-mean-health-care/index.html
 
>> Remember how upset Republicans were about "we have to read it to know what's in it"?
 
>I meant "pass it" not "read it"
 
YES! Same thing with a stool sample.
 
Obamacare=Stool Sample
 
Hugh
 
 
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Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jun 20 07:40PM

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:32:47 -0700 (PDT), xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>Obamacare had 100 Senate hearings and 161 amendments from Republicans.
 
>That the Democrats couldn't get it passed in a bipartisan nature was not for lack of trying.
 
>Repubs aren't even trying.
 
Yabetchaarse.
 
It's supremely ironic that you are chastising the Democrats for
supposedly passing it by themselves because they had the power, when
you're describing what the GOP is doing now, to a T.
 
That's two GFYs now.
 
Hugh
 
 
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Some dued <theodoreward@gmail.com>: Jun 20 12:40PM -0700

I wonder what the actual cost is for this 12mil/year billed for treatment.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jun 20 07:43PM


>So, all you free market types - what's the free market
>solution here?
 
Life ain't fair. Get over it.
 
Hugh
 
 
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JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: Jun 20 12:45PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 2:41:10 PM UTC-4, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
 
 
> Why should they? When the one party calls the other murderers it is
> not a signal to bargain in good faith. Democrats are slow-walking
> everything, even approvals of appointments that are a slamdunk.
 
 
Are you even listening to yourself? First, you seems to be describing why Democrats and Republicans can't bargain on any abortion bill. Second, the slow-walking that you describe is what the Republicans did for the entirety of Obama's term.
JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: Jun 20 12:48PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 3:21:53 PM UTC-4, wolfie wrote:
 
> So, all you free market types - what's the free market
> solution here? The crazy left-wing solution is single-payer.
> One $12M/yr patient spread over 150M isn't that much...
 
Go to the emergency room and give a fake name.
"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Jun 20 03:55PM -0400

"J. Hugh Sullivan" wrote
 
> Life ain't fair. Get over it.
 
Says the guy on not one, but two, government paid
health care plans.
"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com>: Jun 20 03:08PM -0500

>> not a signal to bargain in good faith. Democrats are slow-walking
>> everything, even approvals of appointments that are a slamdunk.
 
> Are you even listening to yourself?
 
Of course. But not with your ears.
 
> First, you seems to be describing why Democrats and Republicans
> can't bargain on any abortion bill.
 
The difference being that when Republicans mention murder something
actually dies, and that the legislation in question is the proximate
cause thereof.
 
> Second, the slow-walking that you describe is what the Republicans did
> for the entirety of Obama's term.
 
The rate of appointment confirmations in 2009 belies that statement.
In other words, bullshit. Democrats for Trump have taken it to a new
level.
 
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xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: Jun 20 01:16PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 3:45:47 PM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
> > not a signal to bargain in good faith. Democrats are slow-walking
> > everything, even approvals of appointments that are a slamdunk.
 
> Are you even listening to yourself? First, you seems to be describing why Democrats and Republicans can't bargain on any abortion bill. Second, the slow-walking that you describe is what the Republicans did for the entirety of Obama's term.
 
$1 to "Death Panels"
"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com>: Jun 20 03:22PM -0500

>> Second, the slow-walking that you describe is what the Republicans
>> did for the entirety of Obama's term.
 
> $1 to "Death Panels"
 
There is a good distance from that to accusing the opposing party's
legislators, in so many words, of murder.
 
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Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 20 04:25PM -0400

On 6/20/2017 4:16 PM, xyzzy wrote:
>>> everything, even approvals of appointments that are a slamdunk.
 
>> Are you even listening to yourself? First, you seems to be describing why Democrats and Republicans can't bargain on any abortion bill. Second, the slow-walking that you describe is what the Republicans did for the entirety of Obama's term.
 
> $1 to "Death Panels"
 
Death Panel = Triage
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 20 04:28PM -0400

On 6/20/2017 3:55 PM, wolfie wrote:
>> Life ain't fair. Get over it.
 
> Says the guy on not one, but two, government paid
> health care plans.
 
That he earned.
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 20 04:29PM -0400

On 6/20/2017 3:43 PM, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
 
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I bet I said the same thing to convicts at least 5 times a day.
"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Jun 20 03:21PM -0400

"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" wrote
 
> Meanwhile, this headline at the Associated Press:
> Iowa's last statewide exchange insurer seeks 43 percent hike
 
The "why" here is actually interesting. There's ONE
person in Iowa who uses over $1M/month in medical
treatment. (He has a rare blood disorder.)
 
He obviously blows through his deductible in the first
few days of the year. After that, the insurer is on the
hook for over $12M, with possibly more if he has any
complications.
 
Under Obamacare, he can't be denied coverage and
the insurer can't cap payouts on a year or lifetime basis.
So the insurer has to try to spread out the cost - and that
means higher premiums. Or, with some, simply leaving
the market since they can't afford to risk this guy signing
up with THEM. (That's why Iowa is down to one exchange
carrier.)
 
Under the GOP plan, he'd get denied coverage or it
would be offered at a price he clearly couldn't pay.
(What would they charge for someone who they KNOW
is going to use $12M a year?) So he goes to a high-risk
pool, if Iowa creates one, or moves to another state that
does. And he still has to pay more, but now the bulk of
the cost is on the taxpayers. Or he simply goes without
coverage, can't get the maintenance care he needs, and
only gets treated by a hospital in urgent situations (who
then has to charge more for everyone or go broke).
 
(Just a side note on high-risk pools - Iowa has about 1.5M
employed residents. So, if it's a high-risk pool, each would
have to chip-in $8 in taxes just for him.)
 
So, all you free market types - what's the free market
solution here? The crazy left-wing solution is single-payer.
One $12M/yr patient spread over 150M isn't that much...
"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Jun 20 03:26PM -0400

"Emperor Wonko the Sane" wrote
 
> There have been a lot of hearings on the House bill
 
The House bill was DOA in the Senate. It's not being
took up. The Senate is writing their own bill.
 
> There will probably be hearings on the Senate version.
 
The Senate GOP leader says otherwise. I'd think he'd
know. (The GOP Senate Bill isn't being sent to any committee.)
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Jun 20 12:23PM -0700

<http://tinyurl.com/ybd3feof>
 
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Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Jun 20 07:36PM

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 08:29:44 -0700 (PDT), Futbol Phan
 
>> Hugh
 
>I'll bet if we had more guns in the country the number would drop substanti=
>ally from 1300, right?
 
Have you stopped beating your wife?
 
Hugh
 
 
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Emperor Wonko the Sane <doug@sorensensdomain.net>: Jun 20 12:01PM -0700

https://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo2973.html
http://tinyurl.com/y8vqox5y
 
Doug
"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com>: Jun 20 02:06PM -0500

> https://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo2973.html
> http://tinyurl.com/y8vqox5y
 
Deniers!
 
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Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Jun 20 12:35PM -0400

http://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/g2277/supermaneuverable-thrust-vector-engine-jet-stunts/
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