Digest for alt.sports.hockey.nhl.mtl-canadiens@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 3 topics

Thursday, June 29, 2017

Gerry <gerry14@hotmail.com>: Jun 29 04:33PM -0700

So here's an update based on a thought floated on TSN tonight...
 
Drouin ($5.5M) - Draisatl ($12M) - Galchenyuk (??RFA - $5.5M??)
Pacioretty ($4.5M) - Danault ($0.9125M) - Gallagher ($3.75M)
Lehkonen ($0.839167M) - Plekanec ($6M) - Byron ($1.167M)
Martinsen ($0.675M) - Mitchell ($1.2M) - Shaw ($3.9M)
De La Rose ($0.725M)

Schlemko ($2.1M) - Weber ($7.857M$)
Davidson ($1.425M) - Petry ($5.5M)
Beacuhemin (UFA - $1M) - Benn ($1.1M)
Jerabek ($0.925M)

Price ($6.5M)
Montoya ($1.0625M)

Total: $74.138M
(Cap is confirmed now at $75M)
 
The premise of course is that if you can't sign Radulov and Markov, you basically flip their money into an offer sheet on the most desirable RFA in the game, the Big Center, Draisatl. Now, obviously NHL teams don't do this, right? A sort of collusion/gentlemen's agreement, but also from the ownership a desire to generally not add further to salary inflation around the league.
 
But I don't know... how many years has it been? How many failed attempts? The Big #1 Center is always out of reach. For like generationS plural now.
 
The 4 1st round draft picks obviously isn't a problem... the way the Habs draft and develop, they can easily part with those.
 
Aside from the fact that offer-sheeting Just Isn't Done, the main drawback of course is that the Oilers would probably just match. You can make that contract 7yrs x $12M, and you can fill it with signing bonus money that makes it lockout-proof, full NMC/NTC, everything under the sun. And the Oilers will still match. And Chiarelli will hate you etc.
 
I say so what. Go offer that deal to Draisatl. Maybe he doesn't want to be second fiddle to Connor McDavid forever. Maybe even if/when the Oilers match, you're still doing a service to 29 other teams in the league, helping to keep them from building a dynasty. Like the way the Hawks have been perpetually handcuffed with those Kane/Toews deals... it doesn't completely stop them, but it definitely complicates their dynastic path, which other GMs shouldn't mind. Having Chiarelli and Oilers fans mad at you isn't that big a deal.
 
Getting a 21-year old #1 center... well, how else are they going to do it anyway?
 
The defense has issues to be sure. Price will be ok, Plekanec's money goes to him next year. Is having the #1 center worth trying to figure out that defense problem?
 
l8r,
Gerry
Mike <mike@gmail.com>: Jun 29 10:55PM -0300

On 2017-06-29 08:33 PM, Gerry wrote:
 
> The defense has issues to be sure. Price will be ok, Plekanec's money goes to him next year. Is having the #1 center worth trying to figure out that defense problem?
 
> l8r,
> Gerry
 
I wonder if the Habs were to sign Galchenyuk for a reasonable contract,
say $5Mx5 years and then flip him to Edmonton for Draisatl along with
perhaps a draft pick or two. Certainly its not an equal trade however,
it might give Edmonton some cap relief and a legit scoring winger that
would probably end up being a perennial 40G guy on McDavid's wing. Might
be worth exploring.
Nyssa <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com>: Jun 29 08:43AM -0400

Chuck wrote:
 
> Beaulieu whose PP stats matched Markov. One year for
> Markov should work but no to a 2nd year. That year they
> will need the cap space for Price
 
Exactly!
 
The Beaulieu dump was a boneheaded move even before this
Markov drama. Talk about painting yourself into a corner!
 
It must be getting rather cramped in the Foxhole what with
all that paint in the middle of the floor.
 
Nyssa, who wonders if MB's decision dartboard needs replacing
Chuck <barberphoto411@gmail.com>: Jun 29 08:50AM -0700

On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 8:43:46 AM UTC-4, Nyssa wrote:
 
> It must be getting rather cramped in the Foxhole what with
> all that paint in the middle of the floor.
 
> Nyssa, who wonders if MB's decision dartboard needs replacing
 
Another bonehead move would be taking Emelin back. But I`d make the trade if the cost was Plekanecs :)
Nyssa <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com>: Jun 29 01:11PM -0400

Chuck wrote:
 
>> replacing
 
> Another bonehead move would be taking Emelin back. But I`d
> make the trade if the cost was Plekanecs :)
 
LOL!
 
Yeah, I had been hoping Vegas would take Plecks.
 
I'd rather not have Emelin back, but I'd take Beaulieu back...
or PK. :/
 
I heard court jester PJ Stock interviewed yesterday. Based
on his enthusiasm for the "get Emelin back" idea, I wouldn't
be surprised if he had been behind the beginning of the rumor
that the Habs were trying to get him back in a reverse trade.
 
At least we can always count on Stock being on the wrong side
of right. He's consistent, if nothing else.
 
Nyssa, who wonders if anyone is going to be left to actually
play in front of Price at this rate
Chuck <barberphoto411@gmail.com>: Jun 29 11:21AM -0700

Bag of used pucks would be a better deal. PJ Stock? Isn't he related to a HNIC big wig? Otherwise why is he still around
Gerry <gerry14@hotmail.com>: Jun 29 10:32AM -0700

So just to resurrect this sad discussion... apparently Sylvain Lefebvre is totally expected to coach Laval next season. HE told the Habs he wanted to wait and see if he could land an NHL assistant job somewhere first, but since it is becoming apparent now that he can't, HE will allow them to re-sign him as their farm team head coach.
 
The benefits of nepotism or what.
 
Dude has coached an abysmal track record in the AHL standings and in terms of development for 5 years, can't get anybody else to hire him, but is still the go-to guy for the Habs.
 
l8r,
Gerry
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