Digest for alt.sports.football.pro.miami-dolphins@googlegroups.com - 11 updates in 4 topics

Friday, June 9, 2017

"euphemism@mindspring.com" <euphemism@mindspring.com>: Jun 09 06:15AM -0700

The Dolphins have agreed to a contract with receiver Mitch Mathews, who has played for three NFL teams in the past year, according to multiple sources.
The Dolphins signed Mathews after losing Rashawn Scott to a foot injury. The Dolphins are optimistic Scott will be ready for the start of training camp, according to a source.
 
Mathews went undrafted in 2016 out of BYU, where he caught 152 passes for 2083 yards (a 13.7 average) and 24 touchdowns in four seasons. He joined the Kansas City Chiefs after the draft but was released last August. He then spent part of October on Cleveland's practice squad before being cut Nov. 2. He spent April and May of this year on Minnesota's practice squad before being released.
 
Mathews joins a crowded competition for the Dolphins' receiver jobs behind Jarvis Landry, DeVante Parker and Kenny Stills. Leonte Carroo, Scott and Jakeem Grant are the incumbents competing for those jobs and are being challenged by seventh-round pick Isaiah Ford (Virginia Tech) and undrafted receivers Drew Morgan (Arkansas), Malcolm Lewis (UM) and Damore'ea Stringfellow (Mississippi), plus
undrafted Stanford rookie Francis Owusu, who was been away from the team because of studies at Stanford.
 
Morgan has been the most impressive of the rookie receivers, but Lewis has had some good moments, including a touchdown reception from David Fales during Thursday's final OTA practice.
 
Mathews, 26, who completed a Mormon mission at BYU, now joins that competition. At 6-5, he excels at catching jump balls and becomes the tallest of the Dolphins receivers.
 
Stills missed practice with an injury that is not considered serious. Cameron Wake and Damien Williams weren't at practice, but Adam Gase said it wasn't injury related. The Dolphins have a three-day mandatory minicamp next week before adjourning for summer vacation.
Dan the Man <dan708@yahoo.com>: Jun 08 09:14AM -0700

> > the cheetahs with them.
 
> Well, even the pundits are calling this a tank...
 
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/jets/2017/06/07/jets-tanking-2017-season-yep-and-thats-ok/376673001/
 
Yeah, this resembles the Philadelphia 76ers and their 'process', a steroids version of Suck For Luck.
"euphemism@mindspring.com" <euphemism@mindspring.com>: Jun 08 10:01AM -0700

> Why would anyone want to play for a team that's got a goal of losing every game?
 
 
I feel bad for Bowles. He seems to me to be a decent coach that is being thrown under the wheels of the bus. He could be a national hero if he were to make a winner out of this team, but by all accounts he has no quarterback and no wide receivers. They also seemingly decimated the OL. I have read that they are now the worst team in the NFL on paper. By the time they can rebuild, Bowles will get fired just to placate the angry fans.
"euphemism@mindspring.com" <euphemism@mindspring.com>: Jun 08 10:28AM -0700

On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 11:14:13 AM UTC-5, Dan the Man wrote:
 
> > Well, even the pundits are calling this a tank...
 
> > https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/jets/2017/06/07/jets-tanking-2017-season-yep-and-thats-ok/376673001/
 
> Yeah, this resembles the Philadelphia 76ers and their 'process', a steroids version of Suck For Luck.
 
==========
 
From the NY Post:
 
 
The NFL is viciously roasting the Jets, who have 'no plan'
By Brian Costello
 
The Jets are the laughingstock of the NFL, and they have not even lost a game yet in 2017.
 
People around the league from coaches to front-office executives to player agents are cackling about the state of the Jets franchise and the team's latest moves — releasing veteran linebacker David Harris and planning to dump wide receiver Eric Decker through either a trade or his release.
 
In several conversations over the past two days, NFL people have wondered whether the Jets actually have a plan, how much dysfunction there is inside the organization and why they waited until June to dump one of their most respected players.
 
All of it reflects poorly on owner Woody Johnson and general manager Mike Maccagnan, the architects behind this complete roster teardown (let's not call it a rebuild until we actually see evidence of building).
 
Coach Todd Bowles is a sympathetic figure around the league, viewed as someone who will ultimately pay the price for a 2017 season that looks like it will be filled with failure.
 
"They have the worst roster in the league and it's not close," one executive said.
 
A roster that looked bad got even worse Tuesday. Harris was the heart and soul of the Jets' defense, a player twice voted the most inspirational player on the team and once team MVP, in 2010. Decker impressed teammates with how he looked this spring after shoulder and hip surgeries and was clearly the best receiver the team had.
 
Nick Mangold, Brett Favre and Alan Faneca in 2008Anthony J. Causi
 
Clearly, Johnson wanted to save some money by getting rid of Harris and his $6.5 million, a shortsighted, ill-conceived decision. Harris was a respected voice in the locker room and one who could help shape second-year linebacker Darron Lee, who got himself into trouble over the weekend. Years ago, the Jets brought in guard Alan Faneca, whose greatest contribution to the Jets might have been teaching young players Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson how to be pros. Harris could have done the same for Lee.
 
The Jets are going with a youth movement, but teams still need a few veterans to point the way. Harris and Decker could have been those guides. You don't think Decker could have helped along young receivers Robby Anderson, ArDarius Stewart, Chad Hansen and Charone Peake?
 
Many people around the league are scratching their heads at the timing of these decisions, particularly Harris. Why would a team treat a player who spent 10 years representing the organization well and doing the right things like this? The time to make a request for a salary cut or to release him was in February or March, not after the eighth OTA.
 
"It's like they have no plan," one agent said.
 
More here:
 
http://nypost.com/2017/06/07/the-nfl-is-viciously-roasting-the-jets-who-have-no-plan/
BAH <bah@bah.com>: Jun 08 03:00PM -0400

On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 10:28:59 -0700 (PDT), "euphemism@mindspring.com"
 
>releasing veteran linebacker David Harris and planning to dump wide receiver Eric Decker through either a trade or his release.
 
Let's see if I have this straight - the jets announced that they will
be releasing Decker, but are hoping that some team will give them
something in a trade, rather than waiting to get him free? Yup,
that's your jets, New York!
mr.hvac@gmail.com: Jun 09 04:19AM -0700

euph...@mindspring.com
> Why would anyone want to play for a team that's got a goal of losing every game?
 
 
I feel bad for Bowles. He seems to me to be a decent coach that is being thrown under the wheels of the bus. He could be a national hero if he were to make a winner out of this team, but by all accounts he has no quarterback and no wide receivers. They also seemingly decimated the OL. I have read that they are now the worst team in the NFL on paper. By the time they can rebuild, Bowles will get fired just to placate the angry fans.
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100% agree. Bowles is an excellent coach. But the Jets are rudderless. They have no plan for the future except to lose and get the number 1 pick. I can only imagine the frustration that brings to a veteran player
BAH <bah@bah.com>: Jun 08 03:02PM -0400

Maybe it's conditioning ... but my first thought when the stinkin jets
announced that they would release Decker was "Shit, I can see this guy
signing with New England and killing us this year."
"euphemism@mindspring.com" <euphemism@mindspring.com>: Jun 08 12:48PM -0700

On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 2:02:02 PM UTC-5, BAH wrote:
> Maybe it's conditioning ... but my first thought when the stinkin jets
> announced that they would release Decker was "Shit, I can see this guy
> signing with New England and killing us this year."
 
 
I'm afraid that the Pats do not need Decker... they are going to be so loaded that Brady will go nuts trying to get everybody their share of the touches. But yes... it would be perfectly typical if he wound up in New England. All the other good players that are ex-Bills, ex-Dolphins and ex-Jets go there. It's a well established pattern.
mr.hvac@gmail.com: Jun 09 04:12AM -0700

Patriots don't want Decker. In fact they just locked up Edelman for the next 3 years. I know no one wants to hear this, but the Pats have tied up almost every loose end for the next couple seasons.
 
I've never seen any off season quite like this.
"euphemism@mindspring.com" <euphemism@mindspring.com>: Jun 08 10:08AM -0700

On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 5:51:56 PM UTC-5, Stu Gotts wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 12:16:42 PM UTC-4, Dan the Man wrote:
 
> > Shaun King IS a scream if it's the same guy I've seen on the interwebs. He's a white guy who "identifies" as black, whatever the hell that means! On a message board, he's often called Talcum X.
 
> FWIW: Shaun King is mixed race - white mother and his father was a light-skinned black man.
 
 
The article I read contained the words of a man who believed his outrage was pure and true. He is going to boycott the NFL this season. He said.
 
Now let's see him do just that. He can still write about hockey, basketball, baseball, soccer... whatever.
 
My bet is that he watches just as much NFL this year as ever... that he needs to be able to work Kaepernick's ongoing struggle into every new development in the 2017 season. He now needs to reveal to us all of the racism that is taking place before our blind, white eyes.
Stu Gotts <ishkabibble99@hotmail.com>: Jun 08 10:53AM -0700


> The article I read contained the words of a man who believed his outrage was pure and true. He is going to boycott the NFL this season. He said.
 
> Now let's see him do just that. He can still write about hockey, basketball, baseball, soccer... whatever.
 
> My bet is that he watches just as much NFL this year as ever... that he needs to be able to work Kaepernick's ongoing struggle into every new development in the 2017 season. He now needs to reveal to us all of the racism that is taking place before our blind, white eyes.
 
Like with the Ray Rice situation... both are talented players, but not talented enough that a team is willing to go through all the negativity that hiring them would engender.
 
Green is the color that matters in these situations, not black.
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