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Sunday, June 18, 2017

Valravn <gmwellbrook@gmail.com>: Jun 17 08:34AM -0700

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 6:20:53 AM UTC-7, Drumrboy wrote:
 
> While it isn't a clear cut statistic, it does give us an indication of how much of a quarterback's total pass yards are due to the QB vs receiver by eliminating the 2 yard dump pass that ends up being a 50 yard gain.
 
> Rank Player Team YDS YAC. Air Yards. AY/Att % of Air Yards. % of YAC to Total Yards
> 28 Ryan Tannehill MIA 2,995 1,493 1,502 3.86 50.2% 49.9%
The difference was clear. Before he was lost in December with a partially torn ACL, Tannehill put up a new accuracy rate to all parts of the field—he completed a career-high 67.1 percent of his passes overall, and he improved his completion rate on passes thrown 21 to 30 yards in the air from 31.9 percent in 2015 to 45.5 percent in 2016.
Valravn <gmwellbrook@gmail.com>: Jun 17 09:05AM -0700

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 6:20:53 AM UTC-7, Drumrboy wrote:
 
> While it isn't a clear cut statistic, it does give us an indication of how much of a quarterback's total pass yards are due to the QB vs receiver by eliminating the 2 yard dump pass that ends up being a 50 yard gain.
 
> Rank Player Team YDS YAC. Air Yards. AY/Att % of Air Yards. % of YAC to Total Yards
> 28 Ryan Tannehill MIA 2,995 1,493 1,502 3.86 50.2% 49.9%
Whether or not a quarterback benefits from YAC is a separate question from accuracy. I was at the Chargers game last year and watched RT put on a show. His first TD pass to Stills was from the 49 yd line to the middle of the end zone about 57 yards in the air just before being hammered (what else is new).
The next touchdown was set up by a pass to Jarvis Landry from the Chargers 36 to about the five in the air with about 2 yds YAC. Third TD from the Chargers 25 yd line to D Williams about five yards into the endzone. Trailing by XX with 4:00 minutes left in the fourth quarter, he launched one from the Dolphins 16 to across midfield at about the 54 hitting Devante Parker in stride on the left sideline while -guess what- getting hammered again.
 
Watch the tape. The Dolphins defense and Jakeem Grant tried like hell to give this one away. Tannehill carried the team. It still took an Alonso pick six to seal it.
 
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2016111309/2016/REG10/dolphins@chargers#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000739176&tab=recap
Drumrboy <drumrboy@aol.com>: Jun 17 03:24PM -0700

Bragging about a guy that completes 60% of his 3 yard passes is just asking for trouble.
 
Just saying....
Valravn <gmwellbrook@gmail.com>: Jun 17 09:49PM -0700

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 3:24:15 PM UTC-7, Drumrboy wrote:
> Bragging about a guy that completes 60% of his 3 yard passes is just asking for trouble.
 
> Just saying....
 
If "Air Yards" and completion % is the sole criterion by which to judge a QB, then RT was better in both categories than Derek Carr. In fact, his "Air Yards" number of 3.86 (much closer to 4 than 3) puts RT only one QB behind Aaron Rodgers and Philip Rivers - both of which he beat in completion percentage.
 
Not previously knowing about the AY/Att stat - 3.86 sounded like an incredibly small number, until I discovered the best in the game (that actually played the whole season) was 4.85 by Kirk Cousins. Wow, Drew Brees was a whopping 4.15 AY/Att with a mere 46.3% completion percentage.
 
So, lets see, by your standard, in 2016 RT was in the ball park for AY/Att with Aaron Rodgers and Philip Rivers and within spitting distance of Drew Brees. His completion percentage was points better than any of them.
 
https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-air-yards/2016/
 
Just sayin...
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