Digest for alt.sports.baseball.sf-giants@googlegroups.com - 16 updates in 7 topics

Monday, June 26, 2017

Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Jun 26 09:39AM

Last year's 49ers were as pathetic as they come, tying a franchise
record for the worst W/L record in history. It was ugly to watch.
They were only able to beat one team the whole season. The owner has
alienated many of the fans. Young great players would rather leave or
retire than to play for this team. Head coach prospect after head
coach prospect have turned down interviews for the job. I've never
seen anything like it.
 
Then came this year's Giants. I've seen many bad Giants teams over the
years, but nothing this bad. Even the 100-loss 1985 team seemed more
capable of winning a game than this bunch. No offense, no starting
pitching, no bullpen. Nothing. The only unknown is, will they
continue to be this bad for the rest of the season?
 
So, which is the more pathetic team, the 2016 49ers, or the 2017
Giants?
 
Seriously, thank god we have the Warriors!
"benf802961@aol.com" <benf802961@aol.com>: Jun 26 06:55AM -0700

The 49ers. I got totally sick of everyone talking about Kaepernick
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 25 11:59AM -1000

The only inning he hasn't given up a run was the 3rd and that's
probably because the Mets were exhausted from hitting running the
bases. At least he continued the Giants' pitching tradition of giving
up home runs with two. The only relievers with halfway decent ERA's
are Kontos with a 3.06 and the Gearrin's fake 2.23. Dyson kind of
stands out with the 10.13 shiner.
 
From the hitting department, 4 hits and 1 run.
 
Giants 1 (familiar total) Mets 5 (Moore's generosity)
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 25 12:23PM -1000

On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 11:59:42 -1000, John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>stands out with the 10.13 shiner.
 
>From the hitting department, 4 hits and 1 run.
 
>Giants 1 (familiar total) Mets 5 (Moore's generosity)
 
Panik walks, Pence singles with none out and Buster coming up. Montero
won't be around much longer at 102 pitches. Buster is working him over
for 7 pitches so far. Buster pops up and Panik gets doubled off. Just
the way it's going for the Giants. Belt's back to striking out on
pitches only a groundhog could hit.
 
Giants 1 Mets 5
ariess@bellsouth.net: Jun 25 03:31PM -0700

On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 5:59:49 PM UTC-4, JohnW wrote:
> stands out with the 10.13 shiner.
 
> From the hitting department, 4 hits and 1 run.
 
> Giants 1 (familiar total) Mets 5 (Moore's generosity)
 
there is something drastically wrong with this team. They are playing way below their talent level. Not saying that they have the greatest talent level, but they just do what they can to lose. We are on this big losing streak and many of the games are against teams that are not that great. Running into the final out with a good hitter up. popping up into a DP on ball 4, mediocre players getting clutch hits against us, but our allstars or previous allstars, not coming through in RBI situations, over and over and over and over again. And in the few games that they do? they can't pitch.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 25 12:58PM -1000

>against us, but our allstars or previous allstars, not coming through
>in RBI situations, over and over and over and over again. And in the
>few games that they do? they can't pitch.
 
It's one of those pervasive psych jobs that happen to a team when one
thing goes wrong and it snowballs. Bumgarner's injury really hurt them
mentally. You're right though. Relying on bozo's like Gorkys Hernandez
and an outfield that can't field or throw makes it worse.
 
They struggle at the plate because they're trying too hard, not
unusual. They run into outs because they're trying to be aggressive.
Again, it isn't for lack of trying. There's only one guy really
producing so ragging on Buster seems pointless.
 
Start with the bullpen at the end of the season and get rid of most of
them. The pitchers and hitters can't see the light of day if a cloud
like the bullpen hands over them.
 
Cueto should be gone, Cain will be gone, so it's time to rebuild the
rotation.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 25 01:38PM -1000

On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 12:58:20 -1000, John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>like the bullpen hands over them.
 
>Cueto should be gone, Cain will be gone, so it's time to rebuild the
>rotation.
 
Hunter Striclland continues the debacle by giving up a home run to
the first batter he faces. Don't suppose there was anything personal
when he hit the next batter.
 
Giants 2 Mets 8
Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Jun 26 09:40AM


> there is something drastically wrong with this team. They are
> playing way below their talent level.
 
Duh! Took you long enough to realize this. Almost half a season.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 25 09:35AM -1000


>Then again, the way Giants drafts have gone this decade, you only hope
>they can get a couple of prospects to be good for a few years, enough to
>get big contracts.
 
Poor Awesome Crybaby ...
Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Jun 26 09:39AM

>> now...
 
> He had a few good years, enough to earn a huge contract.
 
> Similar to Lincecum's career trajectory.
 
Fortunately his big contract was only for 2 years, nothing like Cain's.
Or else this would be really ugly. And imagine Pablo took the Giants'
offer instead of the Sox's. Man...
 
> You only hope the same thing doesn't happen to Bumgardner after he
> gets his next contract.
 
I'm already worried about his big layoff this year. We assume he'll
come back as the same pitcher, but you never know...
 
> Then again, the way Giants drafts have gone this decade, you only
> hope they can get a couple of prospects to be good for a few
> years, enough to get big contracts.
 
I like this year's draft. Maybe something good will turn up.
Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Jun 26 09:39AM

>>hope they can get a couple of prospects to be good for a few
>>years, enough to get big contracts.
 
> Poor Awesome Crybaby ...
 
Haha, the Cain ass kisser hasn't even wiped the brown stuff from his
face yet. Dirty Sanchez JW. LOL. We don't call him dumb & dumber for
nothing. :-D
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 25 01:08PM -1000

Bochy puts Oshit in the game and they go down another 2 runs. A single
and a home run by Bruce. Nice, robust ERA for Oshit. 5.06 ... Another
single and a walk ... Righetti has a talk with Oshit ... that settles
him down and he gets the final out.
 
Giants 1 Mets 7
ariess@bellsouth.net: Jun 25 03:21PM -0700

Partly Bochies play, because he had the runners going, and Posey popped out, and Panik was easily doubled off. Was there the possibility of the infield fly rule being called on that play?
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 25 12:48PM -1000


>Partly Bochies play, because he had the runners going, and Posey popped
>out, and Panik was easily doubled off. Was there the possibility of the
>infield fly rule being called on that play?
 
He hit into a pop fly that should have been one out. Beyond that, the
fault lays elsewhere. Belt could have done better than swinging at two
balls that were closer to the dirt than they were the bottom of the
strike zone.
 
Face it, the team sucks. No matter what they do, it''s going to go
wrong. Even success tends to blow up on before the last out is
recorded.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 25 09:40AM -1000

On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 12:06:57 +0200, "Roberto Ricca"
 
>I guess that, like the barber shop owner mentioned in the subject, all
>of us are allowed to speculate when things go awry, and if I had just a
>vote for "the reason why", I'd get it to Sabean's "dismissal".
 
What about Bumgarner? He wasn't peforming up to snuff and after his
injury, the team went into a steep nosedive. If they had any ideas
about recovering and making a run at 1st place, it went out the door
with Bumgarner when he went on the DL.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 25 09:36AM -1000

As Giants tumble, so do ticket prices on resale market
http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/article/As-Giants-tumble-so-do-ticket-prices-on-resale-11243547.php?t=71d246dfc3&cmpid=premartcl
 
Even with the low prices, is it worth watching them play ... and
continue to lose? Food is okay and you can't beat the view.
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