Digest for alt.sports.baseball.sf-giants@googlegroups.com - 19 updates in 8 topics

Tuesday, June 20, 2017

John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 19 05:02PM -1000

All it seems to be taking is 1 run, but Cueto gives up two and that
familiar refrain about the light hitting Giants applies again. The
Giants have managed only 4 hits against a knuckleball pitcher with a
4.51 ERA.
 
Once Cueto was out of the game, the bullpen came in and buried them
for good. Oshit came in and didn't last an inning while giving up 3
runs. Law came in and demonstrated that there is something
mechanically wrong with him. He gives up 4 runs.
 
That's not a bullpen, it's a joke. Then only thing Bochy could do
worse is put in Morris to relieve Law and he does it.
 
Giants 0 Braves 9
Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Jun 20 02:09PM

> familiar refrain about the light hitting Giants applies again. The
> Giants have managed only 4 hits against a knuckleball pitcher with a
> 4.51 ERA.
 
See, the biased retard is at it again. :-) Quite a difference from
what he said about Cain yesterday, huh? LOL.
 
> for good. Oshit came in and didn't last an inning while giving up 3
> runs. Law came in and demonstrated that there is something
> mechanically wrong with him. He gives up 4 runs.
 
Wow, the biased retard continues his act. Law pitched way worse than
Osich in this game, yet he's calling one guy names and making lame ass
excuses for the other. Right now Law's ERA is worse than Osich's, even
though 2 of Osich's earned runs today were due to Law's bad pitching.
 
> That's not a bullpen, it's a joke. Then only thing Bochy could do
> worse is put in Morris to relieve Law and he does it.
 
LOL. Is this idiot blind or something? If not for Morris coming in to
close out the inning, Law probably would've given up even more runs.
Law gave up 4 earned runs and 2 of Osich's runs, that's 6 runs, without
getting a single out. JW might need to check into a mental hospital.
LOL.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 19 11:34AM -1000

On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 18:38:20 -0400, "Bill McGarrity"
>Posey's choice of pitches?
 
>Someone see a fire sale on the horizon?
 
>--
Who are they going to fire sale, Bill? Based on current performance,
I don't see anyone worth trading or giving away. Belt? Pence? Gorkys
"Mendoza" Hernandez? Span and his limited throwing arm, plus his
injury history? Other than the kid in left, they've got one of the
worst outfields in MLB.
 
They need to get rid of about 60% of the bullpen and raise standards
for relievers. There's ample evidence for that.
 
I don't think it was so much him overriding Buster's choices as it is,
Melancon can't hit the target. Pitchers often shake off the catcher's
calls, but they also hit the right areas that they choose in the
strike zone. All that money they gave Melancon and they can't pitch
the clown on consecutive days?
 
I don't think Blach shook off Buster, but the two home runs were fat
pitches that the hitter couldn't miss.
 
There's a football analogy here and it's called the Baalke Syndrome.
Hire suspect players and watch them implode.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 19 11:37AM -1000

On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 07:37:22 -0700 (PDT), "benf802961@aol.com"
>Bumgarner
>Blach
 
>I would keep those 5 and unload the rest.
 
That's a good start, ben. You can include the batting instructor and
Evans, the GM. Evans made some horrible signings for big money and the
Giants are paying for it with a losing season, an embarrassing losing
season.
poldy <poldy@kfu.com>: Jun 19 08:10PM -0700

On 6/19/17 7:13 AM, Awesome Giants wrote:
 
> Slater should be safe too. If he continues to hit well, the Giants
> no doubt would keep him. If he sucks in the next few weeks, I'm not
> sure any team would want him.:-)
 
It's almost as if every Giants hitter is falling off like Aubrey Huff
after that one season.
 
Just when you didn't think it could get worse, they're re-defining new
lows for June Swoon.
ariess@bellsouth.net: Jun 19 09:25PM -0700

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 6:48:03 PM UTC-4, Bill McGarrity wrote:
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 19 11:08PM -1000

>after that one season.
 
>Just when you didn't think it could get worse, they're re-defining new
>lows for June Swoon.
 
It should be the 2017 Swoon, not the June Swoon. It's the whole damn
season with nothing good at the end.
Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Jun 20 02:02PM

>> weeks, I'm not sure any team would want him.:-)
 
> It's almost as if every Giants hitter is falling off like Aubrey
> Huff after that one season.
 
Not just the hitters. The pitchers are too. Starters, bullpen,
almost everyone. I've never seen anything like it. Most of them
are performing *well* under their norm.
 
> Just when you didn't think it could get worse, they're re-defining
> new lows for June Swoon.
 
Right now they're on pace to lose around 104 games. That's worse
than the 1985 100-loss team. It's April swoon, May swoon, June
swoon, probably July swoon, August swoon, and September swoon.
 
Their best chance for a winning month is October. :-)
 
What is the Giants' worst franchise W/L record? This team has
potential to break it.
Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Jun 20 02:05PM

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Just when you think wayne can't possibly get any dumber. Now his posts
are blending in with the previous poster's. What a dumbass. :-D
 
Well, wayne is kinda mirroring the Giants' season. It's an all-time
low. LOL.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 19 11:51AM -1000

Appeal denied: Giants' Strickland must serve 6-game suspension
By John Shea Updated 1:49 pm, Monday, June 19, 2017
 
http://www.sfgate.com/giants/article/Appeal-denied-Giants-Strickland-must-serve-11230922.php
 
"You always hope for less for the team's sake," Strickland said.
"Ultimately, that's their decision." So the dumbshit hits Harper for
the team's sake?
"benf802961@aol.com" <benf802961@aol.com>: Jun 19 03:42PM -0700

On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 2:51:49 PM UTC-7, JohnW wrote:
 
> "You always hope for less for the team's sake," Strickland said.
> "Ultimately, that's their decision." So the dumbshit hits Harper for
> the team's sake?
 
Now the Giants go on a 6 game winning streak.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 19 05:03PM -1000

On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:42:22 -0700 (PDT), "benf802961@aol.com"
>> "Ultimately, that's their decision." So the dumbshit hits Harper for
>> the team's sake?
 
>Now the Giants go on a 6 game winning streak.
 
If that were only true. :( They made R.A. Dickey look like Cy Young
today. Oh yes, that good old bullpen outshined itself, if you know
what I mean.
Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Jun 20 02:04PM


> Now the Giants go on a 6 game winning streak.
 
LOL. Good one!
 
At least the Rockies are a 1st place team with the best record in the
NL. Atlanta is 32-37. If the Giants can't beat them...
 
The only bright spot in the Rockies sweep is that it knocked the bums
out of 1st place.
Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Jun 20 02:00PM

So far Law seems to be following Osich's career path to a tee. Osich
had a brilliant rookie season, then it was all down hill from there.
Law is doing exactly the same. Hope he turns it around.
 
Osich:
Year 1: 2.20 ERA
Year 2: 4.71
Year 3: 4.42
 
Law:
Year 1: 2.13 ERA
Year 2: 5.40
 
This year, Osich gave up 0 HR, Law gave up 5 HR.
 
Osich has a 1.309 WHIP, Law has a 1.700 WHIP.
 
Yeah, something is wrong with Law alright. It's called a suck muscle.
Awesome Giants <Giants@sf.giants>: Jun 20 01:58PM

Cueto (7IP, 2ER) outpitched Kershaw (6.1IP, 6ER, 4HR) by a landslide,
yet Cueto took a loss and Kershaw got another win, because the bums
scored 10 run while the Giants scored 0. This shows you W/L records
are for dumb people. :-)
 
It's the 1st time in Kershaw's career that he gave up 4 HR in a game.
This is also his worst season HR-wise. He's already given up 17 HR and
it's not even half a season yet. He only gave up 8 HR all of last
season (although he was injured for a while).
 
Also, although his ERA and WHIP are still excellent by most pitchers'
standards, they're higher than his norm. His ERA hasn't been this high
in 7 years. His HR given up is already a career high. Hopefully this
is the beginning of his decline.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 19 11:16PM -1000

Which Giants players have trade value?
https://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2017/6/19/15832602/sf-giants-trade-value-rumors-possibilities
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 19 05:09PM -1000

> in the 9th. do not want this guy to beat us, or give him the chance
> for a cycle. mr. rbi posey, unclutch in the 9th. Bochy's job has to be
> on the block.
 
I'd rather go after Bobby Evans, the clown that signs all these
useless players. Then swing a wide knife thru the lineup and get rid
of most of them the lineup.
 
Blach hasn't been a long starter before this so he might just be
wearing down. On the other hand, giving up two runs shouldn't mean a
loss. Again, it's Evans stocking the bullpen with garbage and the
team for not recognizing that something is wrong with Law.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 19 11:40AM -1000


>he says the team started to fall apart after the duffy trade.
> I do have to question his insight though, as he is a Trump supporter.
 
That's just bum luck, Wayne. Duffy couldn't stay healthy and he's
still living on the DL with his new team. The Giants set themselves
for this disaster after Duffman left.
 
Look at the signings? Everyone of them a lousy deal. Even renewing
clowns like Pence backfired.
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: Jun 19 11:48AM -1000

On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 00:44:19 -0700, Jon Rossen <jonr17@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
>because of a trade or due to injury) has negatively affected the Giants.
> See, it's a lose / lose situation.
 
>-jon rossen
 
Agreed.
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