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Tuesday, May 16, 2017

TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: May 16 06:11PM +0300

16.5.2017, 17:55, Court_1 kirjoitti:
> Nadal is like one of those monsters you see in a horror film. You think he's finally dead and he keeps coming back to life.
 
Rather like Terminator which never stops coming at you. Until you get it
into a hydraulic press.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 16 08:15AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 5:44:43 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
 
> > I hope Fed is currently doping up a storm and has taken some sound lessons from Nadal on how to cycle up during down periods. It seems to work for both.
 
> You're hopeless. Once again you couldn't just say that fed is doping
> without ifs and buts.
 
LOL. I'm the hopeless one and yet I've said 100 times that I think Fed dopes. I'm really not sure what's confusing you about that.
 
You were silent like a mouse for a long time when Nadal was losing and now that he's back in good form, you're getting obnoxious again. As always,there's no neutral zone with you and your idol worship. You have some kind of obsessive personality with these famous people who are strangers to you, i.e. Nadal, Charlize Theron, Hillary Clinton, etc. where you turn them into inhuman models of perfection, people who have no faults or weaknesses. It's ridiculous and juvenile what you do. You act like a besotted teenager. Take it down a few notches would you? But I doubt you're capable of doing that.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 16 08:24AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 8:15:26 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> You were silent like a mouse for a long time when Nadal was losing and now that he's back in good form, you're getting obnoxious again. As always,there's no neutral zone with you and your idol worship. You have some kind of obsessive personality with these famous people who are strangers to you, i.e. Nadal, Charlize Theron, Hillary Clinton, etc. where you turn them into inhuman models of perfection, people who have no faults or weaknesses.
 
Don't forget the King of Pop. :)
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 16 08:24AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 8:23:01 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:

> Exactly. If he does somehow win Wim/USO it could go down as the dumbest
> decision ever by a great champion.
 
LOL. If he wins W and the USO, the last thing most people would be thinking is how dumb his decision making was!
 
> No injury, just decided to pull out.
 
He said his trainers/doctors told him playing on clay contributed to his injury last year so he's afraid of playing on it at this point and doing more damage. He also has the mental edge over Nadal at the moment off clay and he probably doesn't want to mess it up by having Nadal defeat him on clay after hours of grinding.
 
 
> game on clay? If he loses early he just gets more time to practice on
> grass.
 
> Hope he changes his mind & gets a wildcard.
 
I think it's a good decision. He wouldn't win the FO. There are a bunch of players he could lose to these days on that surface, not only Nadal whereas on grass and hc his chances are so much better to go the distance.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 16 08:29AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 8:24:43 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> > Exactly. If he does somehow win Wim/USO it could go down as the dumbest
> > decision ever by a great champion.

> LOL. If he wins W and the USO, the last thing most people would be thinking is how dumb his decision making was!
 
Imagine the reporters: "Ha ha, will you look at that fool Federer! He skipped the French Open and now won a record 8th Wimbledon for his 19th slam. What a strategic moron!"
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 16 08:32AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 11:24:16 AM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 8:15:26 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
 
> > You were silent like a mouse for a long time when Nadal was losing and now that he's back in good form, you're getting obnoxious again. As always,there's no neutral zone with you and your idol worship. You have some kind of obsessive personality with these famous people who are strangers to you, i.e. Nadal, Charlize Theron, Hillary Clinton, etc. where you turn them into inhuman models of perfection, people who have no faults or weaknesses.
 
> Don't forget the King of Pop. :)
 
Oh yeah, how could I forget that one? :) That's the creepiest one of all. To not have the ability to see what Jackson actually was, i.e. a mixed up pedo/druggie/freak is unbelievable and I say that as somebody who loved Jackson as a performer and recognized his talent. The guy was a walking time bomb.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 16 08:32AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 11:29:38 AM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
> > > decision ever by a great champion.
 
> > LOL. If he wins W and the USO, the last thing most people would be thinking is how dumb his decision making was!
 
> Imagine the reporters: "Ha ha, will you look at that fool Federer! He skipped the French Open and now won a record 8th Wimbledon for his 19th slam. What a strategic moron!"
 
:)
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: May 16 12:00PM -0500

On 5/16/2017 7:22 AM, Whisper wrote:
>> too great, but why not give it a shot anyway?
 
> Exactly. If he does somehow win Wim/USO it could go down as the dumbest
> decision ever by a great champion. No injury, just decided to pull out.
 
He'd just say skipping FO is what allowed him to win W/USO.
 
Let's face it: what Fed is doing isn't new, it's actually quite a
tradition among aging champs who have either had far more success at
W/USO than FO, or are desperate for W success that they haven't had.
 
 
 
 
 
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jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com>: May 16 04:54PM

On Tue, 16 May 2017 22:05:26 +1000, Whisper wrote:
 
 
> And yes she's constantly correcting me, so I go out of my way to
> irritate her even more.
 
> : )
 
Simplest explanation is that you're a bogan.
AZ <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com>: May 16 08:08AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 8:24:27 PM UTC+6, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
 
> Ouch!
 
> The Verdict?
 
> "Sonny, don't play like I do".
 
Shakes will say you cherry-picked a poor serve and volleyer to demonstrate your point.
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: May 16 09:49AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 8:08:34 AM UTC-7, AZ wrote:
 
> Shakes will say you cherry-picked a poor serve and volleyer to demonstrate your point.
 
Well, he picked someone ranked 176 to make his point.
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: May 16 09:50AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 7:24:27 AM UTC-7, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
 
> Ouch!
 
> The Verdict?
 
> "Sonny, don't play like I do".
 
Maybe you should watch Agassi's 2000 and 2001 Wim SF matches with Rafter ?
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: May 16 09:34AM -0700

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/sports/tennis/roger-federer-french-open.html?_r=0
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 16 06:27AM -0700

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 8:55:13 PM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:
 
> > > And the reason why you are not convinced ? :)
 
> > No disrespect meant to Agassi, but what Agassi could do well, I think Federer and Nadal could equally. Perhaps Djok as well.
 
> Possibly Fed but not sure about Nadal and Djok at Wim on old grass against S/V'ers. In any case, they didn't have to do it. That's a big difference, no ?
 
Nadal has beaten other current-era W champs either in the final or along the way to get his own W titles. Djok too. Their achievement of 10+ slams is so significant that I would give them every chance to come good when exposed to the toughest of conditions.
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: May 16 09:23AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 12:10:48 AM UTC-7, Jason White wrote:
 
> Nobody forced McEnroe and Edberg to play S/V at the French. If their groundstrokes and baseline game weren't good enough, too bad. Today's champs are slightly better at closing the deal. Would love to see those old guys bring their weak S/V shit to wimbledon today. They would win nothing.
 
Did you even watch them play ?
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com>: May 15 11:07PM

On Tue, 16 May 2017 01:13:29 +0300, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
 
> http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170515153325-trump-approval-
graphic-exlarge-169.jpg
 
Is he tired of winning yet?
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: May 15 07:09PM -0500

On 5/15/2017 6:07 PM, jdeluise wrote:
 
>> http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170515153325-trump-approval-
> graphic-exlarge-169.jpg
 
> Is he tired of winning yet?
 
Every day, he wakes up as President of the USA. If that's not Winning,
nothing is.
 
And all you hater-clowns know it, LOL.
 
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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: May 16 08:37AM -0700

Oh no he doesn't cos he's just a Big Chicken who's scared to play Nadal on clay!
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 16 08:50AM -0700

Fed has bigger fish to fry at Wimbledon and the USO. That is unless your hero Murray can stop him, lol.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 16 08:17AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 3:20:29 AM UTC-7, TT wrote:
> much better Rafa is than Federer... this sort of career despite getting
> injured all the time. Also you know that Fed wouldn't have won as much
> with a healthy Rafa.
 
It must have taken some serious mental contortions to assemble this twisted worldview. Where Rafa is concerned, all rationality goes out the window with you.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 16 08:47AM -0700

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 10:07:25 PM UTC-4, Carey wrote:
 
 
> > It's different on clay IMO.
 
> That may be. I was thinking of what Stan did to Fed (!) and Djok on the dirt, but they aren't Nadal.
> He's the best I've ever seen on red clay. No question.
 
Federer and Djokovic are like amateurs on the dirt compared to Nadal but the main thing is that Nadal is really a terrible match-up for Stan especially on clay. I think Nadal will take Stan apart if they play at the FO. I doubt this post will come back to haunt me. :)
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 16 06:33AM -0700

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:06:50 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
 
> > > what WoO means?
 
> > Window of Opportunity.
 
> I thought it was crowds shouting "WoOoOoOoO!"
 
Is that the Seminoles chant?
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: May 16 05:12PM +0200


>> I rest my case. :)
>> --
 
> This particular case of yours was always right. Only when you use it to denigrate the greatness of someone with record number of slams it becomes particularly nauseating :) Let him enjoy the occasional WoO benevolence that luck accords him, same as with others.
 
Actually I've never denigrated his greatness nor is it possible to
do it.
He has all those slam trophies in his cabinet and that's it.
 
But his boatness, well..
 
 
 
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Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 16 08:34AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 6:33:39 AM UTC-7, RaspingDrive wrote:
 
> > > Window of Opportunity.
 
> > I thought it was crowds shouting "WoOoOoOoO!"
 
> Is that the Seminoles chant?
 
You mean when they're doing the tomahawk chop, or is that the Atlanta Braves? :) Not sure that still goes on. These days it might get fans arrested.
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: May 16 08:17AM -0700

PwL, I'm sorry to hear you lost your father. That must be hard.
 
Try to get out there with those new RF97s soon, for a break from that. :)
 
-Carey
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