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Wednesday, May 3, 2017

Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 03 10:13PM +1000

On 3/05/2017 10:12 AM, bob wrote:
> makes me believe it even more so, federer should've won that match in
> easy straights the way sampras was playing that year.
 
> bob
 
Tier 1 quality post.
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 03 10:45PM +1000

On 3/05/2017 3:20 PM, John Liang wrote:
 
>>> Leave Murray out of this. He has beaten Federer, what, once in slams?
 
>> demolished him in an OG final at wimbledon.
 
> That was coming off a 4.5 hour semi final against Del P on the previous day when a 30 years old could not recover in the final.
 
er, Rafa was coming off a 5 hour semi at '09 AO v a fully rested, fresh
& peak Federer. What is your excuse for that one?
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 03 10:47PM +1000

On 3/05/2017 3:34 PM, John Liang wrote:
>> easy straights the way sampras was playing that year.
 
> Of course no proof is need for any opinion, just like .... So a 20 years old Federer beat 30 years old defending champion in 5 sets at Wimbledon, what do you make off Sampras lost at Wimbledon to Van Rensburg when he was the same age as Federer but also with a slam win under his name ?
 
>> bob
 
 
What I make it is how much a better player Sampras was than Federer. He
just turned 19 when he won USO, beating 4 no.1 level players.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 03 10:54PM +1000

On 3/05/2017 9:40 PM, stephenJ wrote:
 
> ... but you always fail to mention that even though Sampras wasn't at
> his peak, he was closer to his than Fed was to *his*. Sampras played
> better that year than Fed did.
 
But Sampras still couldn't win a tune-up at the time. That's important.
 
Sampras lost in every tournament he entered for more than 2 yrs. That's
where his level was at that time.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: May 03 07:42AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 10:45:17 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
 
> > That was coming off a 4.5 hour semi final against Del P on the previous day when a 30 years old could not recover in the final.
 
> er, Rafa was coming off a 5 hour semi at '09 AO v a fully rested, fresh
> & peak Federer. What is your excuse for that one?
 
He had one day rest between the final and semi, Federer did not .
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: May 03 07:46AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 10:45:17 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
 
> > That was coming off a 4.5 hour semi final against Del P on the previous day when a 30 years old could not recover in the final.
 
> er, Rafa was coming off a 5 hour semi at '09 AO v a fully rested, fresh
> & peak Federer. What is your excuse for that one?
 
Apart from not fully covered and we all know Rafa waste more time on just bouncing the ball between each of his serves. The actual play time probably not even half of 5 hour 14 minutes.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: May 03 07:48AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 10:47:11 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
 
> >> bob
 
> What I make it is how much a better player Sampras was than Federer. He
> just turned 19 when he won USO, beating 4 no.1 level players.
 
Yes, with more losses at slam level, half ass attitude, could not even get to a single FO final, even with a five year head start the Fedexpress still express through Sampras' record in less time that make him a much better player than Sampras.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: May 03 07:50AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 10:54:33 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
 
> But Sampras still couldn't win a tune-up at the time. That's important.
 
> Sampras lost in every tournament he entered for more than 2 yrs. That's
> where his level was at that time.
 
Well, you told us if a player reaches a slam final he was in middle of his peak, stay consistent with your post.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 03 10:51PM +1000

On 3/05/2017 8:02 PM, The Iceberg wrote:
> This hilarious, can't believe anyone can be so clueless about tennis as to follow what some idiots journos have written about Fed's bh and let that lead to the conclusion Nadal is now playing at his 2008 peak form! This really is v funny,
> Whisper right, rst is Amazing place! It like Fedfan Thicko Land!
 
Rst is a great place. If you ever feel the need to have a few drinks
after a hard week etc you actually only have to read rst posts. It's
the same as getting blind drunk & talking nonsense.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 03 05:55AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 8:51:23 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
> Rst is a great place. If you ever feel the need to have a few drinks
> after a hard week etc you actually only have to read rst posts. It's
> the same as getting blind drunk & talking nonsense.
 
Like you do all the time! That is, posting nonsense.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: May 03 09:15AM -0500


> peak rafa
> wasn't afraid to stay out all day and wear you down, this rafa fears
> that.
 
This Rafa is 30 years old.
 
 
 
 
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Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: May 03 07:09AM -0700

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"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 03 04:59PM +0300

On 3.5.2017 15:05, stephenJ wrote:
>> Trumpening.
 
> Yes, like back in 1993, Bill Clinton's election made Rush Limbaugh's
> career. Always happens, meaningless.
 
Just about any sentence becomes meaningless if you snip out the context
it was said in. Duh.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: May 03 09:52AM -0400

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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 03 10:37PM +1000

On 3/05/2017 12:00 PM, Guypers wrote:
 
> The McEnroe has a graphite/fiberglass face on the shoulders.
 
> I played with the Maxply fort!!!
 
I played with both. I admit I am a McEnroe fanboy.
 
: )
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 03 10:39PM +1000

On 3/05/2017 12:14 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> Playing with these heavy racquets requires learning perfect swings and timing.
 
Yep.
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com>: May 03 01:30PM

On Wed, 03 May 2017 05:12:40 -0700, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> Sorry, it may have been the best 20 years ago, but you need to live in
> the present now, there are much better racquets and better tennis
> players :)
 
Whisper once revealed that he buys rackets right off the shelf, pre-
strung, pre-gripped.... no customization whatsoever. What kind of
serious player does that?
 
When called on it he backtracked, hemmed and hawed and said something to
the effect of "that's how we do it in Australia". Whisper is a liar...
and a bad one.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: May 03 06:36AM -0700

> Whisper once revealed that he buys rackets right off the shelf, pre-
strung, pre-gripped.... no customization whatsoever. What kind of
serious player does that?
 
When called on it he backtracked, hemmed and hawed and said something to
the effect of "that's how we do it in Australia". Whisper is a liar...
and a bad one.
 
Sure, I believe they have Walmart too :)
 
BTW, I string my racquets myself, I hate it, but I do a perfect job.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: May 03 05:16AM -0700

> Courier says Sampras wanted to win every tournament he ever entered... hyper competitive... he was all in... he had to save energy 'during matches' at times due to fitness issues but was a champion all the time... this lazy, half hearted Sampras RST nonsense is BS...
 
Some fanatics ran out of excuses and the half assed excuse is their latest invention.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 03 10:48PM +1000

On 3/05/2017 5:41 PM, Patrick Kehoe wrote:
>> Federer won 18 slams being wasted on every tune-up while Sampras
>> won only 14 slams playing half-assed in tune-ups.
 
> Courier says Sampras wanted to win every tournament he ever entered... hyper competitive... he was all in... he had to save energy 'during matches' at times due to fitness issues but was a champion all the time... this lazy, half hearted Sampras RST nonsense is BS...
 
You are either a troll or legally blind & never watched the matches.
Sampras himself admitted to playing half arsed, & that's the way it
looked on court. Your post is completely meaningless.
RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 03 05:57AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 8:49:06 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
> You are either a troll or legally blind & never watched the matches.
> Sampras himself admitted to playing half arsed, & that's the way it
> looked on court. Your post is completely meaningless.
 
You HAVE to post your meaningless drivel EVERYDAY? Don't you have other things to do? Go go.
Scott <scottl44@yahoo.com>: May 03 05:59AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 8:49:06 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
> You are either a troll or legally blind & never watched the matches.
> Sampras himself admitted to playing half arsed, & that's the way it
> looked on court. Your post is completely meaningless.
 
At times Pete seemed to be coasting. Same with today's Pete-fuckers, like you.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 03 10:41PM +1000

On 3/05/2017 2:05 PM, RaspingDrive wrote:
 
>> of course federer is great. anyone over 10 slams is certainly a
>> "great." federer had his circumstances, sampras had his.
 
> Federer's circumstances had two more 10+ slam winners. Sampras had his, yes --- Agassi, a 10- (read: minus) slam winner and Sampras's bunny.
 
You're assuming today's best players would have won many slams in
earlier eras. A big mistake imo.
 
 
 
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RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: May 03 05:53AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 8:41:52 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
> On 3/05/2017 2:05 PM, RaspingDrive wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 8:48:29 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
t is understandable to lose some motivation after securing a record, which winning the 7th Wimbledon surely is. However he only had a six (or 7 at that time?) slam winner in Agassi, his bunny, to contend with so even with some loss of motivation, and injuries, could have won a few more. The situation is similar to Federer's case in 2012, when he won the seventh Wimbledon and experienced a subsequent 'let-down' of sorts but then continued gamely until he won his 18th slam some four years later. He had to contend with two 10 plus slam winners, one of whom was piling up slam wins just at that time. Federer is great, right ;)
 
> > Federer's circumstances had two more 10+ slam winners. Sampras had his, yes --- Agassi, a 10- (read: minus) slam winner and Sampras's bunny.
 
> You're assuming today's best players would have won many slams in
> earlier eras. A big mistake imo.
 
It's also a big mistake to downgrade achievements earned. Learn to respect reality first, you fool.
 
 
 
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 03 10:43PM +1000

On 3/05/2017 2:15 PM, RaspingDrive wrote:
>> here.
 
>> bob
 
> Fed's foremost goal is to up his slam count. If it is through Wimbledon, so be it. The eighth Wimbledon title is very coveted, sure.
 
You have no fucking idea mate. An 8th Wimbledon crown would make
Federer the greatest Wimbledon champion in history. Is that an
important title for Roger?
 
Are you autistic?
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