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Thursday, May 25, 2017

grif <griffin_230@hotmail.com>: May 25 08:06PM +0100

On 24/05/2017 22:14, TT wrote:
 
> 2001 - The Fast and the Furious: 4
> 2013 - Furious 7: 2
 
> That's all folks. I'm giving the franchise one more chance though since Furious 8 has Charlize Theron and Kurt Russell.
 
I think most people say that 7 is the best of the series.
 
I like how the series has these sage-like aphorisms. For instance, in the 8th edition, you are told that it doesn't matter what's under the hood, it's who's behind the wheel that is important. Mind blown.
 
This one might be the most important life lesson:
"I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Nothing else matters: not the mortgage, not the store, not my team and all their bullshit. For those ten seconds or less, I'm free."
 
But first, I need to get some Ben and Jerry's while I ponder it.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: May 25 08:45AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 8:01:03 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
 
> Also their first names Stefanos and Felix begin with first letters
> of their predecessor surnames. Sampras and Federer.
 
> All signs are there. Stunning.
 
Interesting comparisons there. :) But Felix has a two-handed backhand and both Stefanos and Felix cite Federer as their idol :D At least they have good taste.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: May 25 07:25PM +0200

>> of their predecessor surnames. Sampras and Federer.
 
>> All signs are there. Stunning.
 
> Interesting comparisons there. :) But Felix has a two-handed backhand and both Stefanos and Felix cite Federer as their idol :D At least they have good taste.
 
 
Also
 
augER
federER
 
And
 
tsitsipAS
samprAS
 
 
ER-> ERROR
AS-> ACE
 
:)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: May 25 10:26AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:50:42 AM UTC-5, Federer Fanatic wrote:
 
> Oh Steve....ohhhh you've got great hair....
> ... oops Honey...he meant nothing. He said his name was Whisper?
 
> FF
 
I knew he was a skinhead.
stephenJ <sjaros3@cox.net>: May 25 10:00AM -0500

On 5/25/2017 9:13 AM, Gracchus wrote:
>> slams. Fed needed to do at 19 what Sampras did at 19, so absolutely
>> nobody can suggest it was 1-off/fluke/shocker from Sampras etc.
 
> Feeble rebuttal that doesn't hold water. Nobody would "suggest" that it was a fluke from Federer either > >except you. Suppose Sampras won the USO at age 19 and then never won another slam in his career. That same > >USO >title would then be seen as a fluke.
 
Actually, since it was almost 3 years until he won his second slam, it's
not much of stretch to call Sampras's 1990 USO win a fluke.
 
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 26 02:15AM +1000

On 26/05/2017 12:13 AM, Gracchus wrote:
>> slams. Fed needed to do at 19 what Sampras did at 19, so absolutely
>> nobody can suggest it was 1-off/fluke/shocker from Sampras etc.
 
> Feeble rebuttal that doesn't hold water.
 
Opposite in fact.
 
Nobody would "suggest" that it was a fluke from Federer either except
you. Suppose Sampras won the USO at age 19 and then never won another
slam in his career.
 
 
Impossible scenario.
 
 
That same USO title would then be seen as a fluke. Only his subsequent
slams put the win in context and make us see the event as the first big
achievement in the career of a great championship. Well the same with
Federer. Unlike Doohan, he didn't beat a great champion at Wimbledon and
never do anything else. His subsequent 18 slams put the win over Sampras
in context as a harbinger of great things to come.
 
 
Sampras was losing in *every* tournament he entered for the last 2+ yrs
of his career. Yes Fed beat him once, but somebody else beat him all
the other times. You have to acknowledge this fundamental fact.
 
 
So your comparison really is absurd, as you probably already know.
Sorry, but you can't just invent these arbitrary little "Rules of
Whisper" (real champs win their first slams as teenagers, etc.) and
expect anyone to take them seriously. Everyone here knows that they're
lame attempts to diminish Federer. Hasn't worked before and it never
will. The Great Man is just too great. You'll never be able to change
that, so just deal with it.
 
Yes Federer is great & I have been consistent in saying he's my fave
player the last 10+ yrs. He just isn't the best I've seen. He's in my
top 5 though.
 
 
 
 
 
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 26 02:18AM +1000

On 26/05/2017 1:00 AM, stephenJ wrote:
>> same > >USO >title would then be seen as a fluke.
 
> Actually, since it was almost 3 years until he won his second slam, it's
> not much of stretch to call Sampras's 1990 USO win a fluke.
 
USO was the hardest slam for any player to 'fluke'. It had always been
won by guys who ranked No.1 at some point. Indeed Sampras beat 4 guys
who got to no.1 at that USO (Agassi, McEnroe, Lendl & Muster). It was
arguably the toughest slam draw of all time.
 
 
 
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Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: May 25 09:56AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 12:15:22 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
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Stimpy, the cheap ugly greek is at best behing Fed, Rafa, Novak, Rod, Borg, Budge, even behind
Gorgi!!!!!!
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 26 03:02AM +1000

On 26/05/2017 2:56 AM, Guypers wrote:
>> top 5 though.
 
> Stimpy, the cheap ugly greek is at best behing Fed, Rafa, Novak, Rod, Borg, Budge, even behind
> Gorgi!!!!!!
 
So in your estimation Sampras is such a hack that Federer, despite
playing until age 36 has been unable to better Pete's 7 Wimbledon's & 5
USO's, & has 5 yr-end No.1 crowns v Pete's 6 yrs.
 
Pity Pete quite at 31 & Fed is still going strong winning slams at 36.
 
 
 
 
 
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Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 25 10:18AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
> won by guys who ranked No.1 at some point. Indeed Sampras beat 4 guys
> who got to no.1 at that USO (Agassi, McEnroe, Lendl & Muster). It was
> arguably the toughest slam draw of all time.
 
But Mac hadn't cared about winning since 1985, right? Remember how many times you've asserted this to defend his crap results in the second half of his career? But if Sampras beat him in 1990, he must have been at his fiercest, whereas when Federer beat Sampras, Sampras no longer cared about winning. You're hilarious.
 
Then 1990 Lendl with his failing back and Muster....Muster on HC. Seriously?
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: May 25 10:21AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 1:02:55 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
 
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Look at the competition, Rafa, ND, Stan, Andy, compared to Pioline, Chang, Courier, Andre, tier 3 at best!
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: May 25 10:25AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 12:18:30 PM UTC-5, Gracchus wrote:
> > arguably the toughest slam draw of all time.
 
> But Mac hadn't cared about winning since 1985, right? Remember how many times you've asserted this to defend his crap results in the second half of his career? But if Sampras beat him in 1990, he must have been at his fiercest, whereas when Federer beat Sampras, Sampras no longer cared about winning. You're hilarious.
 
> Then 1990 Lendl with his failing back and Muster....Muster on HC. Seriously?
 
Thanks for exposing Whisper's lies and hypocrisies once again.
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